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Quote from: ElpadroBitcoin on October 11, 2016, 04:04:43 PM

Yes it is used for some criminal activities but we should not care about it at all because this is life, the fact is that every currency has this down and dark side.
I do not care and I think its also logical and not so bad too.

It does not affect bitcoin at any point if it is used for illegal activities, the only thing it can do is disappointing some new people coming towards bitcoin by thinking that it is not a good currency or something.

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Quote from: ElpadroBitcoin on October 11, 2016, 04:04:43 PM

Yes it is used for some criminal activities but we should not care about it at all because this is life, the fact is that every currency has this down and dark side.
I do not care and I think its also logical and not so bad too.

Well bitcoin werent made for those purposes, dark or criminal activities, but sure each person does spend and use them as they wish, the same happens with fiat, its curious to see the media attacking bitcoin like the only currencie in the world supporting the dark marketplaces, something we do all know happens several years with fiat.

The purpose of any currency is to facilitate trade, that is it, the currency whether is fiat or bitcoin does not care if the transaction is viewed as legal or illegal.

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Quote from: sakinaka on February 06, 2016, 10:54:17 AM

Yes, like every currency, Bitcoin is being used for illegal activities. However, I'd say the ration between "clean" money and "dark" money will be higher tha with fiat, where at leat 1/10 of the total cash was ever used for illegal activities.

How would you ever figure that out with fist though? You couldn't! But with bitcoins you would know exactly where they originated from. I think it's actually really stupid for people to use bitcoins for something illegal because it's on a public ledger now! Forever!

It is possible mate because it is safe for the illegal activities since we are not giving our personal information to use bitcoin that things can do easily and without worrying that they will be detected.

You may think you are giving out no private information when sending your coins but most times transactions aren't too hard to trace back to the original purchase address with the right tools.
Unless you are using a new address for every transaction, mixing your coins and using a few other stealth features it is hard to hide anything on a public ledger.

Agree. If there will be a serious checking, a bitcoin transaction can be traceable. And if a case that a illegal one use bitcoin for transaction and authorities are eager to make a research of it, chances of tracing is possible.

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Quote from: madwica on October 11, 2016, 07:52:50 PM

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Quote from: sakinaka on February 06, 2016, 10:54:17 AM

Yes, like every currency, Bitcoin is being used for illegal activities. However, I'd say the ration between "clean" money and "dark" money will be higher tha with fiat, where at leat 1/10 of the total cash was ever used for illegal activities.

How would you ever figure that out with fist though? You couldn't! But with bitcoins you would know exactly where they originated from. I think it's actually really stupid for people to use bitcoins for something illegal because it's on a public ledger now! Forever!

It is possible mate because it is safe for the illegal activities since we are not giving our personal information to use bitcoin that things can do easily and without worrying that they will be detected.

You may think you are giving out no private information when sending your coins but most times transactions aren't too hard to trace back to the original purchase address with the right tools.
Unless you are using a new address for every transaction, mixing your coins and using a few other stealth features it is hard to hide anything on a public ledger.

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Quote from: madwica on October 11, 2016, 07:52:50 PM

Quote from: cpfreeplz on October 11, 2016, 06:18:02 PM

Quote from: sakinaka on February 06, 2016, 10:54:17 AM

Yes, like every currency, Bitcoin is being used for illegal activities. However, I'd say the ration between "clean" money and "dark" money will be higher tha with fiat, where at leat 1/10 of the total cash was ever used for illegal activities.

How would you ever figure that out with fist though? You couldn't! But with bitcoins you would know exactly where they originated from. I think it's actually really stupid for people to use bitcoins for something illegal because it's on a public ledger now! Forever!

It is possible mate because it is safe for the illegal activities since we are not giving our personal information to use bitcoin that things can do easily and without worrying that they will be detected.

Exactly, but still if authorities will really look into our illegal transactions, for sure they will be able to trace it and our future will be compromise. Me, although I know how to do a transaction that I am hard to trace but I will not take chances because what matters to me is freedom.

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Quote from: cpfreeplz on October 11, 2016, 06:18:02 PM

Quote from: sakinaka on February 06, 2016, 10:54:17 AM

Yes, like every currency, Bitcoin is being used for illegal activities. However, I'd say the ration between "clean" money and "dark" money will be higher tha with fiat, where at leat 1/10 of the total cash was ever used for illegal activities.

How would you ever figure that out with fist though? You couldn't! But with bitcoins you would know exactly where they originated from. I think it's actually really stupid for people to use bitcoins for something illegal because it's on a public ledger now! Forever!

It is possible mate because it is safe for the illegal activities since we are not giving our personal information to use bitcoin that things can do easily and without worrying that they will be detected.

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Quote from: sakinaka on February 06, 2016, 10:54:17 AM

Yes, like every currency, Bitcoin is being used for illegal activities. However, I'd say the ration between "clean" money and "dark" money will be higher tha with fiat, where at leat 1/10 of the total cash was ever used for illegal activities.

How would you ever figure that out with fist though? You couldn't! But with bitcoins you would know exactly where they originated from. I think it's actually really stupid for people to use bitcoins for something illegal because it's on a public ledger now! Forever!

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Quote from: Doamader on October 11, 2016, 04:36:16 PM

Quote from: ElpadroBitcoin on October 11, 2016, 04:04:43 PM

Yes it is used for some criminal activities but we should not care about it at all because this is life, the fact is that every currency has this down and dark side.
I do not care and I think its also logical and not so bad too.

Well bitcoin werent made for those purposes, dark or criminal activities, but sure each person does spend and use them as they wish, the same happens with fiat, its curious to see the media attacking bitcoin like the only currencie in the world supporting the dark marketplaces, something we do all know happens several years with fiat.

Yeah I agree with you, this is obvious problem. They only jugde bitcoin, a realise is fiat is have been used for ilegal activity to. It happen since long time ago before bitcoin created. Bitcoin has been created for good reason, yeah it is for destroy centralization. And give customers maximum benefit of their property.

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Quote from: ElpadroBitcoin on October 11, 2016, 04:04:43 PM

Yes it is used for some criminal activities but we should not care about it at all because this is life, the fact is that every currency has this down and dark side.
I do not care and I think its also logical and not so bad too.

yes that is a fact that it can be use for some illegal activities just like other fiat currency like USD and Euro and almost every fiat currency but there is nothing wrong to bitcoin and bitcoin is not responsible for these illegal activities as it is just common in every society and in every currency.

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Quote from: ElpadroBitcoin on October 11, 2016, 04:04:43 PM

Yes it is used for some criminal activities but we should not care about it at all because this is life, the fact is that every currency has this down and dark side.
I do not care and I think its also logical and not so bad too.

yeah I think we should not care about it because using bitcoin you're free to do anything because it is the advantage of bitcoin right ? you're free to do anything in bitcoin because no one controls you in bitcoin, freedom is real

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Quote from: ElpadroBitcoin on October 11, 2016, 04:04:43 PM

Yes it is used for some criminal activities but we should not care about it at all because this is life, the fact is that every currency has this down and dark side.
I do not care and I think its also logical and not so bad too.

Well bitcoin werent made for those purposes, dark or criminal activities, but sure each person does spend and use them as they wish, the same happens with fiat, its curious to see the media attacking bitcoin like the only currencie in the world supporting the dark marketplaces, something we do all know happens several years with fiat.

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Yes it is used for some criminal activities but we should not care about it at all because this is life, the fact is that every currency has this down and dark side.
I do not care and I think its also logical and not so bad too.

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Quote from: lanslans on October 08, 2016, 03:48:38 AM

Of course bitcoin is used for illegal activities, but so is the US dollar. All forms of currency can be used for things that are illegal. I think we need to also look at all of the good things that bitcoin can be used for such as sending money cheaply to other parts of the world. We also have almost full control over our bitcoin but fiat is controlled by governments and banks.

As with all things in life, do 100 things to help out people, and they won't notice it, make one mistake, and people judge you on that one mistake.

Same goes up with Bitcoin. No matter in how many ways it can help people, people are critical on it for one reason.

It just doesn't make sense. I am fairly sure that the media is part of the problem of why people think like this.

The media is also a tool and is being used to demonize bitcoin on purpose, bitcoin is a great technology and has taken the monopoly that banks and governments had on money, so they will do what they can to destroy bitcoin.

Whatever they are doing, they will never be able to destroy Bitcoin. The only thing that they can do is trying to prevent Bitcoin from growing further by implementing all kinds of rules. That's it.

Correct, but that is only because of the decentralized nature of bitcoin and in my opinion they are doing a magnificent job slowing down adoption by their lies.

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Quote from: Doamader on October 06, 2016, 06:03:40 PM

Bitcoin will be used for good as well bad things the same way it happens for several years with fiat, soo nothing new here, besides its harder to trace the people who are under the dark marketplaces.

I think it's different when you're using a fiat when doing things that are illegal of course you will be tracked easily using fiat,
that is why there are so many people coming in and using bitcoin to be used as an auxiliary illegal

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Quote from: bitcoin110011 on February 06, 2016, 07:11:09 AM

I see more and more acrticles of bitcoin being used for illegal activities
will this hurt bitcoin in the long run , will governments ban this just like they started to do wih paying in cash for some services
to harden the use of illegal , and money laundering

just this september, Philippine customs intercepted Ecstasy tablets worth $155,000 concealed and hidden on puzzle boxes. Apparently, the drug syndicates used fake identities and transacted thru bitcoins.

but this doesn't mean that bitcoin is bad, it's how it was used that is bad.

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Quote from: Doamader on October 06, 2016, 06:03:40 PM

Bitcoin will be used for good as well bad things the same way it happens for several years with fiat, soo nothing new here, besides its harder to trace the people who are under the dark marketplaces.

Indeed you are right but I think its logical because every currency is used for some criminal activity these days and we can do nothing about it too.
I think its logical and not bad that it is used for it because we cannot do anything about it, it may even give the bitcoin a boost.

of course it is a natural thing and very logical if one uses currency bitcoin for something they need, whether it's illegal or legal is up to them, the difference with another currency bitcoin is more secure and hidden, that's why I see a lot of issues who came on this matter, I think it is not a problem right ?

Our only concern is we can see a big increase on the circulation of bitcoin so in that way our investment will grow, that is something we are hoping to happen as for sure the price will abruptly increase, if they are using it for illegal activities that is their problem anymore and not for bitcoin.

We need to concern if someone used bitcoin for illegal activities, if the government banned this coin we will lose users and by losing user bitcoin price and transaction rate can fall down, it will cause the price to fall down

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Quote from: BeGoods on October 08, 2016, 04:53:47 PM

Quote from: Iceborn on October 07, 2016, 08:55:01 PM

Quote from: Doamader on October 06, 2016, 06:03:40 PM

Bitcoin will be used for good as well bad things the same way it happens for several years with fiat, soo nothing new here, besides its harder to trace the people who are under the dark marketplaces.

Indeed you are right but I think its logical because every currency is used for some criminal activity these days and we can do nothing about it too.
I think its logical and not bad that it is used for it because we cannot do anything about it, it may even give the bitcoin a boost.

of course it is a natural thing and very logical if one uses currency bitcoin for something they need, whether it's illegal or legal is up to them, the difference with another currency bitcoin is more secure and hidden, that's why I see a lot of issues who came on this matter, I think it is not a problem right ?

Our only concern is we can see a big increase on the circulation of bitcoin so in that way our investment will grow, that is something we are hoping to happen as for sure the price will abruptly increase, if they are using it for illegal activities that is their problem anymore and not for bitcoin.

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Quote from: Iceborn on October 07, 2016, 08:55:01 PM

Quote from: Doamader on October 06, 2016, 06:03:40 PM

Bitcoin will be used for good as well bad things the same way it happens for several years with fiat, soo nothing new here, besides its harder to trace the people who are under the dark marketplaces.

Indeed you are right but I think its logical because every currency is used for some criminal activity these days and we can do nothing about it too.
I think its logical and not bad that it is used for it because we cannot do anything about it, it may even give the bitcoin a boost.

of course it is a natural thing and very logical if one uses currency bitcoin for something they need, whether it's illegal or legal is up to them, the difference with another currency bitcoin is more secure and hidden, that's why I see a lot of issues who came on this matter, I think it is not a problem right ?

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Quote from: South Park on October 08, 2016, 03:12:23 PM

Quote from: BitHodler on October 08, 2016, 03:59:44 AM

Quote from: lanslans on October 08, 2016, 03:48:38 AM

Of course bitcoin is used for illegal activities, but so is the US dollar. All forms of currency can be used for things that are illegal. I think we need to also look at all of the good things that bitcoin can be used for such as sending money cheaply to other parts of the world. We also have almost full control over our bitcoin but fiat is controlled by governments and banks.

As with all things in life, do 100 things to help out people, and they won't notice it, make one mistake, and people judge you on that one mistake.

Same goes up with Bitcoin. No matter in how many ways it can help people, people are critical on it for one reason.

It just doesn't make sense. I am fairly sure that the media is part of the problem of why people think like this.

The media is also a tool and is being used to demonize bitcoin on purpose, bitcoin is a great technology and has taken the monopoly that banks and governments had on money, so they will do what they can to destroy bitcoin.

Whatever they are doing, they will never be able to destroy Bitcoin. The only thing that they can do is trying to prevent Bitcoin from growing further by implementing all kinds of rules. That's it.

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Quote from: BitHodler on October 08, 2016, 03:59:44 AM

Quote from: lanslans on October 08, 2016, 03:48:38 AM

Of course bitcoin is used for illegal activities, but so is the US dollar. All forms of currency can be used for things that are illegal. I think we need to also look at all of the good things that bitcoin can be used for such as sending money cheaply to other parts of the world. We also have almost full control over our bitcoin but fiat is controlled by governments and banks.

As with all things in life, do 100 things to help out people, and they won't notice it, make one mistake, and people judge you on that one mistake.

Same goes up with Bitcoin. No matter in how many ways it can help people, people are critical on it for one reason.

It just doesn't make sense. I am fairly sure that the media is part of the problem of why people think like this.

The media is also a tool and is being used to demonize bitcoin on purpose, bitcoin is a great technology and has taken the monopoly that banks and governments had on money, so they will do what they can to destroy bitcoin.

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