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June 10, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
#73
Can confirm I got my login issues sorted, and that Cloudhashing have partnered with Bitminter, which gives them a bit more credibility in my eyes
legendary
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June 10, 2013, 09:55:37 AM
#72
okay made payment got a  google payments cc fraud stop which is common since it is a 700+ usd payment to a company in the UK.  I am attempting to fix it. will post back later today.
legendary
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June 09, 2013, 06:40:45 PM
#71
I got a pm from cloudhasher and I decided to buy a 1 + 5 gh = 6gh contract for 700 usd. I will post more details and let you all know if he is good or bad. I paid asking price and did not get a  discount but he told me all buyers will get a  free boost to contract come this sept. not sure how long that offer is good for.

  To give  some background on me. I am a miner have been mining since aug 2012.  I am a  few coins ahead with my gpu farm, but the time has come to end my gpu farm.  I am a USA, New Jersey resident. I ALSO  have some BFL jallys on order.  I have a gpu farm. I held some Asic Miner stock sold it and have decided to plow the money back into this site and into a group buy of a bit fury  120Gh/s machine.

link to this group buy.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2358139

  My point is yeah this could be a scam.
 yeah that group buy could be a scam.
BFL may stop shipping.  total spent on these 3  items  about 1500- 1600 usd.
 my gpu farm made me 3 or 4 grand. going to sell off the farm and use these 3 buys instead. worse comes to worse I am still ahead.

I am in the process of paying for this with google.

Update paid for it:

  I PURCHASED A 1 YEAR CONTRACT FOR 700 USD.  


 I GET 6GH NOW AND A 25% BOOST TO  7.5 GHS COME SEPT.   I will continue to update on this.

I used google payments. With a credit card. gives some protection.  

Note I just deleted a post I made that was wrong.  I went to the website  and clicked on a lifetime contract which would have been 1000 usd. I purchased a 1 year contract. for 700 usd.

 So to sum up. I got a pm that said I will get 6 gh now starts july  then a boost to 7.5 gh .. I will come back to here and let you know how this works out.  Since I used a cc I can cancel and have some protection for about 45 days.
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June 09, 2013, 09:34:32 AM
#70
Why not call me on our company number. Its on the website contact us
legendary
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June 09, 2013, 09:25:59 AM
#69
cloudhasher

I will buy a contract please send me a pm. I want to ask a question or two.
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June 07, 2013, 04:44:03 AM
#68
Hey,

Email info and I will get it sorted
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June 07, 2013, 04:42:03 AM
#67
New site looks great! Having a little trouble logging in at the moment but other than that I love it!
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June 04, 2013, 05:43:01 AM
#66
New website launched.
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May 29, 2013, 03:37:41 AM
#65
With all due respect, one problem I'm having with cloudhashing is the inability to log into my account properly.  I have to refer to an email they sent me to get the link to my account.  I can't just log in from their home page.  I'm hoping this is fixed soon.  Thank you.

Hi Joe,

Our new website launches within days. It will resolve the issue you mentioned. Thanks for baring with us. Follow us on twitter or subscribe to the e-letter for updates.

Cloudhashing Team
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May 29, 2013, 03:35:07 AM
#64
With all due respect, one problem I'm having with cloudhashing is the inability to log into my account properly.  I have to refer to an email they sent me to get the link to my account.  I can't just log in from their home page.  I'm hoping this is fixed soon.  Thank you.
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May 29, 2013, 02:52:25 AM
#63
i like your concept... you might want to consider outsourcing IC design and build your own rigs based on Avalon references instead of relying on suppliers like BFL and may be even sell some of that hardware aka bitfountain approach... or if you could research in custom mining equipment for scrypt algos you'd probably the first to start the scrypt asic race... Smiley
btw has BFL delivered any of your orders yet?  may be it's not too late to get BFL refund you money and invest that in custom mining hardware...  just curious to know what your long term plans are... Smiley

As a company, we at Cloudhashing value most importantly our customer relationships, and with bitcoin being a quickly emerging industry, we recognize the importance of verifying legitimacy and reputation. Like all new businesses, there is an ongoing effort to build solid customer and business relationships, and we appreciate those who extend us their trust, but fully understand those who are cautious or concerned, and we hope that we can over time gain their trust.

We have provided in numerous cases copies of receipts of purchase of equipment, and we have broadened our Vendor base to include multiple suppliers of equipment to ensure that we can meet the growing demand of our customers and to buffer the variety of lead times that our Vendors are up against. We believe our model offers fair payouts to our contract subscription customers and we have been forthright and clear with all parties inquiring about services purchased and when they go into effect.

Below (at the bottom of this message) are a few examples of our legitimacy, that we hope will help some of you better understand us and our willingness to be as transparent as possible.

We are confident in our service model and infrastructure, and believe in the bitcoin movement wholeheartedly as a both business and individuals.  We will continue to uphold our commitments to being responsive and communicate with integrity.  As we learn more of the market conditions that we are all subject to with regards to hardware delivery challenges, we will share them, along with the victories of services starting.

We are happy to and will continue to provide proof of our commitment customer support, communication and reliability. Feel free to direct any questions directly to us, via the contact us section of our website http://www.cloudhashing.com/

Examples as follows:

Third Party News Article on Cloudhashing Services http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-maas-mining-as-a-service-coming-soon/

Cloudhashing Company Newsletter: http://tinyurl.com/cloudhashing

Proof of one of several ASIC Purchases: https://i.imgur.com/wUtMl8P.jpg

Legitimacy Verified on BitCoinTalk: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coincanaryorg-no-longer-updated-all-known-vendors-and-status-176262
Search for: Shared Mining Services

Phone Recording of Customer and Cloudhashing: http://tinyurl.com/cloudhashing-phonecall
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May 28, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
#62
SCAM. End of story

200+ useless posts in about a week.  It's pretty clear you're just flooding the forum with 1 liners in order to get your post count up, probably so you can eventually sell your sig for 0.1BTC.  Sad.
newbie
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May 28, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
#61
SCAM. End of story
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May 28, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
#60
As a company, we at Cloudhashing value most importantly our customer relationships, and with bitcoin being a quickly emerging industry, we recognize the importance of verifying legitimacy and reputation. Like all new businesses, there is an ongoing effort to build solid customer and business relationships, and we appreciate those who extend us their trust, but fully understand those who are cautious or concerned, and we hope that we can over time gain their trust.

We have provided in numerous cases copies of receipts of purchase of equipment, and we have broadened our Vendor base to include multiple suppliers of equipment to ensure that we can meet the growing demand of our customers and to buffer the variety of lead times that our Vendors are up against. We believe our model offers fair payouts to our contract subscription customers and we have been forthright and clear with all parties inquiring about services purchased and when they go into effect.

Below (at the bottom of this message) are a few examples of our legitimacy, that we hope will help some of you better understand us and our willingness to be as transparent as possible.

We are confident in our service model and infrastructure, and believe in the bitcoin movement wholeheartedly as a both business and individuals.  We will continue to uphold our commitments to being responsive and communicate with integrity.  As we learn more of the market conditions that we are all subject to with regards to hardware delivery challenges, we will share them, along with the victories of services starting.

We are happy to and will continue to provide proof of our commitment customer support, communication and reliability. Feel free to direct any questions directly to us, via the contact us section of our website http://www.cloudhashing.com/

Examples as follows:

Third Party News Article on Cloudhashing Services http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-maas-mining-as-a-service-coming-soon/

Cloudhashing Company Newsletter: http://tinyurl.com/cloudhashing

Proof of one of several ASIC Purchases: https://i.imgur.com/wUtMl8P.jpg

Legitimacy Verified on BitCoinTalk: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coincanaryorg-no-longer-updated-all-known-vendors-and-status-176262
Search for: Shared Mining Services

Phone Recording of Customer and Cloudhashing: http://tinyurl.com/cloudhashing-phonecall
newbie
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May 27, 2013, 04:48:13 PM
#59
Hi all,

I for better or for worse I gave "Emmanuel" the benefit of the doubt having gone through this thread early this morning. Much of which I found completely mean spirited. This place is sometimes just like a cross between IRC and Newsgroups of 1993 on a good day.

I posted some feedback at the end via the contact form about login details received and lack of account URL.

He came back quickly and I left my phone number. He called me back and we had an interesting chat, which I recorded with his permission.

The crux of our conversation relevant to this forum ran as follows:

The counter is updated - every 12- 48 hours, to allow for refunds.
2% of people ask for their money back. He didn't want people to see the counter roll back - Christ that would cause even more questions here!

Nigeria he were he is from, but on the phone I can assure you he sounds extremely English and is based in London.

Here is the telephone conversation
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1745534/cloudhosting/call_09-06-55_IN_XXXXXXXXXXXX.AMR

I am sorry about the poor normalisation of the recording - but it's raw and uncut. Cynics pick away, it's just a record of the conversation we had.

Emmanuel Abiodun - yes, well when I asked him about this, it's very common name in Nigeria apparently. A bit like John Smith in the UK or the much maligned Jon Doe of the United States.

With regards to equipment and deliverables, fast forward to about 25 minutes into our conversation:
I'm paraphrasing the gist of it: The contracts he is offering on his site is for hardware he already has.

So if you want to lay into him and his company a bit more, go ahead but perhaps with the courtesy of listening to the first 30 minutes of our chat recorded on the 27th May linked above. 30 minutes onwards is mainly us rabbiting on. (I don't suggest you bother wasting you life listening any further)

I've decided haven't got a cat in hell's chance of editing it. So here it is linked in this posting.

Cheers Mark
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May 16, 2013, 12:03:55 AM
#58
A person named Emmanuel Abiodun (also the name of the owner of CloudHashing) was convicted of wire fraud, credit card fraud and identity theft. Sources:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aRl_taI8X3UY and http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-2nd-circuit/1470251.html

A person by the same name has been trying his hand at Nigerian 419 scams. One source: http://www.419scam.org/emails/2010-06/10/01093583.1.htm. You can find more by Googling.

Now I am not saying these are the same people, but use your head.


I am British and live in London.

Did you actually read that article or just couldn't wait to spread filth and conjecture?
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May 15, 2013, 11:05:48 PM
#57
A person named Emmanuel Abiodun (also the name of the owner of CloudHashing) was convicted of wire fraud, credit card fraud and identity theft. Sources:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aRl_taI8X3UY and http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-2nd-circuit/1470251.html

A person by the same name has been trying his hand at Nigerian 419 scams. One source: http://www.419scam.org/emails/2010-06/10/01093583.1.htm. You can find more by Googling.

Now I am not saying these are the same people, but use your head.
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May 14, 2013, 12:50:37 AM
#56
Anyway, these are my objections.  But I still bought.  I understand growing pains are expected.

You're pretty much the problem with Bitcoin. Noobs are expected to do stupid shit because they are noobs, which practically means stupid. But to do something you know is stupid INTENTIONALLY...sigh.

Please read Personal responsiblity and the Ponzi scam and review your community-damaging behavior. You are bad for Bitcoin, leaving alone how bad you are for yourself.
Im taking a calculated risk. Something people do all the time in free societies.  You can't win if you don't play.  Has nothing to do with being a noob.  Some people thrive on noob bashing.  How do you know I'm a noob,  just because I don't post a lot?   Please don't answer that. This thread is not for this discussion.

I've done my due diligence, my research.  It's premature to call this a ponzi scheme.  But the fact that they will only take 6000 contracts and no new customers is good in that respect.  Only existing customers can buy expired contracts.

Who died and made these guys kings? The walk around making accusations with NO evidence whatsoever. The sad thing is people listen to them because they have spent more time living on this forum than living real lives.

Anyways Joe - we have recently added 2 Terahashes of Avalon chips to our arsenal. We are literally one of the first 10 orders by using TerraHash.com. This means your July contract could possibly start in June.

Its what we do time after time, put our money where our mouth is.

Kind regards
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May 01, 2013, 07:22:11 AM
#55
Anyway, these are my objections.  But I still bought.  I understand growing pains are expected.

You're pretty much the problem with Bitcoin. Noobs are expected to do stupid shit because they are noobs, which practically means stupid. But to do something you know is stupid INTENTIONALLY...sigh.

Please read Personal responsiblity and the Ponzi scam and review your community-damaging behavior. You are bad for Bitcoin, leaving alone how bad you are for yourself.
Im taking a calculated risk. Something people do all the time in free societies.  You can't win if you don't play.  Has nothing to do with being a noob.  Some people thrive on noob bashing.  How do you know I'm a noob,  just because I don't post a lot?   Please don't answer that. This thread is not for this discussion.

I've done my due diligence, my research.  It's premature to call this a ponzi scheme.  But the fact that they will only take 6000 contracts and no new customers is good in that respect.  Only existing customers can buy expired contracts.
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April 30, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
#54
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 If you average the jalap at around 40W/h consumption (varies from 30W to 50W), the minirig would need about 10MW or 10000W of power. If you have 6 minirigs like what cloudhashing has purchased, you would basically need a nuclear reactor which produces on average of approx 800MW to 1100MW of power which is unrealistic to power up the minirigs! BFL have missed their power consumption goals by 666.67%.
...

I think you meant 100 KW not 10 MW (=approx 30W *1500GH/5GH). Six minirigs would therefore need 600 KW, which is still high. I read that ordinary racks use up to 2.4 kW each, but I guess 600 kW is within the capabilities of a specialist hosting centre. No nuclear power plant needed.
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