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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

And if you play gambling games with dishonestly earned money, then is it possible?

You shouldn't openly call gambling a scam, because you, as a gambler, are not being deceived (provided that you are not being deceived). Look, in gambling there are certain rules of the game (for each game), there is an official RTP and for you, as a gambler, all this is voiced in the rules. If these conditions satisfy you, then you play. If not, then no. No deception.

If there is no deception. For example, cheating on the part of the casino in the form of reducing the RTP. If the casino deliberately reduces the RTP, then, in this case, it will be a scam.

That is, if the casino follows the established official rules of gambling industry, then it is not a scam. If you ignore the fact that the rules in gambling are designed in such a way that the player has fewer chances to win (Zero in roulette, for example).

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

It will be only a scam if you lose your money.

But for those who are winning big, then how can you call gambling a scam? There's a lot of proof already that someone has won big, thru lottery or even a jackpot in a casino so for them it's real as it gets.

However, for those that are losing money, they will call every excuses in the book and blame everyone except themselves and call gambling scams.

Gambling is simply a losing game and not a scam because it's not a system that defrauds anyone. The gambler is the one that chose to gamble on his own free will, he wasn't convinced by the casino to do it and the casino didn't make any promise to the gambler. People who lose their money in it and call it a scam forget that it's 50/50 you either win or lose, this is why you should manage risks effectively. Those that win can't call it a scam because they are benefiting from it, but when they start losing they start blaming the system forgetting that they had the opportunity or luck to win.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 29, 2024, 01:46:49 AM

If gambling is a scam, how come people manage to win there? If gambling is a scam, then eating is worlds biggest scam also, because in few hours I am hungry again Grin

If gambling was really a scam, someone through secturies of its existance, would have proved that with iron facts. But calling everything where money are lost as scam is wrong. I am in a traffic jam right and burning my money in exhaust pipe. Are cars scam then?

What you say and your analogy is very good, but many players confuse the game, the casino as if it were an NGO. And things are not like that, the casino has many things, but we must also consider that the casino is a place where its owners must guarantee their profits, some have the highest house advantage, others lower, that depends on how they establish it, but they have to know that they compete against many, but what you say is true, where it was a scam no one would play because who would play just to lose? nobody.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I realized this when I won a $100 slots promo code. I was already thinking in my mind where I would spend the winnings, which I thought were definitely in my hands. So I started spinning spin after spin, the bet was five dollars. I spun nine times and won nothing. I got angry and changed the game, in another I won right away from the first spin. And then I lost everything. Mathematically, I should have won at least a little. The casino thought otherwise.

I don't see that as a scam, because your luck didn't shine on that day. Gambling is pure luck, especially this game that you mentioned slot. However, I understand what you mean but you know that your chances of winning is 50-50, and you were ok with it. I feel people that say gambling is a scam whereas it isn't, are those that thought they could make a fortune from gambling but got disappointment in the long run after losing so much to gambling.

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Quote from: bubilas on November 28, 2024, 08:50:04 AM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I realized this when I won a $100 slots promo code. I was already thinking in my mind where I would spend the winnings, which I thought were definitely in my hands. So I started spinning spin after spin, the bet was five dollars. I spun nine times and won nothing. I got angry and changed the game, in another I won right away from the first spin. And then I lost everything. Mathematically, I should have won at least a little. The casino thought otherwise.

Hahaha...If not for folly, I don't know anything that can make me ever trust casino games, not even spinning games that will deliver just exactly as the casino wants it. Don't you know the house always wins? If not, they would have gone bankrupt. When exactly they want the machine/system to bless the player is when it will do so. If you play at the time it will not bless you, you can play from now to tomorrow, you will continue to lose, but the lucky ones might play a few times and become so blessed at the time it's programmed to do so. That latter reason is why people still play such games.

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If gambling is a scam, how come people manage to win there? If gambling is a scam, then eating is worlds biggest scam also, because in few hours I am hungry again Grin

If gambling was really a scam, someone through secturies of its existance, would have proved that with iron facts. But calling everything where money are lost as scam is wrong. I am in a traffic jam right and burning my money in exhaust pipe. Are cars scam then?

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Think of gambling as your aunt who you really don’t like and rarely want to see often, if ever. Treat gambling as a last resort and just that. Nothing more nothing less. When you gamble you give up control and when you give up control you leave everything to chance. I gambled no more than what I can afford to lose on various occasions. Sometimes I win, but most times you lose.

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Quote from: taufik123 on November 28, 2024, 03:39:23 PM

yes almost everything and illegal casinos or scam casinos just let you play and then won't be able to withdraw anything.
Some illegal casinos may be able to make withdrawals, but that is only at the beginning, and then it will just become a junk casino and freeze the account of every active user with a large amount of deposits and funds.

Instead of getting stuck in an obscure casino, it's better to choose a casino that is indeed recommended and has many users who play in it and make deposits and withdrawals smoothly and most importantly allowed in your country.

They will make a big and interesting promotions to attract many gamblers attention so they will deposit in a large money to win the games. But then they will realize what they did before is not right as when they win, they can not withdraw their wins money because the casino will trying to ask them to verify their account with too complicated requirement.

That is why we must research before we choose the casino and read the reviews from members on this forum will help us to determine the right casino for us. We can find many good casinos in this forum and many of them are online from a long time and gives satisfaction to their members.

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Quote from: Makus on November 28, 2024, 04:42:28 PM

You're absolutely correct mate. Gambling is a game of luck and not a get rich quick scheme. Majority of persons who complain bitterly about casino gambling or gamble in general, they are somewhat addicted or have made series of irresponsibly decisions that eventually brought about losses. Before gambling you should have concluded in your mind that you may loss everything you're about to gamble because the chances of wining is very low. The house always wins no matter what, though sometimes we get compensated when luck is on our side but luck doesn't last forever. And that's why I like to use my wins to buy something I can remember for long period of time. Gamble is no scam.

There is almost no way to make money consistently in gambling because it is more about luck but the reason why many people gamble is because they may have prepared a special budget and do not consider gambling as a place to make money consistently. Gambling is very close to luck and we may not always be lucky in it so it needs consideration so as not to become more addicted. Gambling for entertainment is not a problem as long as we can control ourselves and spend money in a more responsible amount but it will be a problem if we are not able to control it.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Please understand the nature of gambling first before you accuse gambling as a scam!!

It is quite ironic someone would say gambling can be compared to a scam, when in reality online cryptocurrency casinos state very clear what the chances are formone to win money out of a session, even in some games like Dices and Plinko, the gambler is given the chance to select the amount of risk they would like to take being the obvious down side not to have the change to win as much money as the rest of gambler who go for riskier approaches.
Just think about it, most scams try to lure victims by claiming they are offer them steady income with zero risk and at very well I test rates for their deposits, while on the other hand casinos state very clearly they are not for people to make money in the long term, but rather to have time of leisure and fun in their websites and all deposited money is to be considered to be lost money from the beginning.

Gambling and casinos are not scams, they are legitimate businesses which are pretty good at attracting more potential gamblers and also pretty good at advertisement.

You're absolutely correct mate. Gambling is a game of luck and not a get rich quick scheme. Majority of persons who complain bitterly about casino gambling or gamble in general, they are somewhat addicted or have made series of irresponsibly decisions that eventually brought about losses. Before gambling you should have concluded in your mind that you may loss everything you're about to gamble because the chances of wining is very low. The house always wins no matter what, though sometimes we get compensated when luck is on our side but luck doesn't last forever. And that's why I like to use my wins to buy something I can remember for long period of time. Gamble is no scam.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

...Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

The conclusion that gambling can be a scam is usually reached by players who have lost their money. Such players cannot accept that fortune has turned its back on them and blames the casino for its loss.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on November 28, 2024, 03:50:13 PM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Please understand the nature of gambling first before you accuse gambling as a scam!!

It is quite ironic someone would say gambling can be compared to a scam, when in reality online cryptocurrency casinos state very clear what the chances are formone to win money out of a session, even in some games like Dices and Plinko, the gambler is given the chance to select the amount of risk they would like to take being the obvious down side not to have the change to win as much money as the rest of gambler who go for riskier approaches.
Just think about it, most scams try to lure victims by claiming they are offer them steady income with zero risk and at very well I test rates for their deposits, while on the other hand casinos state very clearly they are not for people to make money in the long term, but rather to have time of leisure and fun in their websites and all deposited money is to be considered to be lost money from the beginning.

Gambling and casinos are not scams, they are legitimate businesses which are pretty good at attracting more potential gamblers and also pretty good at advertisement.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

First of all, how you can conclude that gambling is a scam? Do you have an experience that a gambling site grabbed your money in your account? Or they don't pay your prize when you won the games?

I don't deny that there are random gambling sites that have bad issues. However, it doesn't reflect the whole gambling sites. If you choose trusted gambling sites, you won't have those bad issues. That's why you must be more selective to choose gambling sites. I suggest you only choose the gambling sites that have good popularity in this forum.

By the way, if it is about the chance to win in gambling. It will be always 50:50, sometimes it requires luck factor. If you want to get a higher chance of the win, you don't play gamble but you do trading or investing. If you are a real gambler, you must understand that the main purpose of gambling is for fun. You don't rely on gambling if you want to get regular money. Please understand the nature of gambling first before you accuse gambling as a scam!!

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 28, 2024, 05:19:36 AM

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We can not win in a scam casino because the casino control everything so they can get their members money while they will not response if their members complaint.

yes almost everything and illegal casinos or scam casinos just let you play and then won't be able to withdraw anything.
Some illegal casinos may be able to make withdrawals, but that is only at the beginning, and then it will just become a junk casino and freeze the account of every active user with a large amount of deposits and funds.

Instead of getting stuck in an obscure casino, it's better to choose a casino that is indeed recommended and has many users who play in it and make deposits and withdrawals smoothly and most importantly allowed in your country.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think it is worth it if only you are gambling with the money that you can afford to lose but it is not worth it when you gamble with all the money you have just trying to make money from gambling by all means. Gambling is unpredicted I don't think it is worth it for people to depend on it which they can even have the mind of gambling with so much money that they can afford to lose . There is nothing bad gambling with your hard earned money but you need to understand the amount of money which you need to use in gambling. If you don't gamble with your hard earned money, which money do you think would be better in gambling? Loan money? No.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Do you have to show where you were cheated, or from which game and casino you were cheated? or do you think gambling as a whole is a scam?
if you think all gambling is a scam, of course no one will agree with you. maybe you are referring to a certain type of game that may be acceptable because the chances of winning are smaller than your chances of winning. but it is still not a scam.
you should consciously risk your money for gambling. you must have known the risks of betting.

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Gambling is not a scam, it's legit, but it's math are in the house side and not in the user side, and it's this way because the casinos need to survive in the long run, casinos have an operational cost and the only way for them to pay the servers, licence, employers, and all that stuff is by a house edge.

The house edge mean the casino will win for the long run, lets say you pay with a friend "Coin flip" each time your friend wins you pay him $99 and each time you win then your friend pays $100... In the long run (1 Million bets) your friend will be losing $500,000. That's what odds say, and that's how casinos makes profit.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I realized this when I won a $100 slots promo code. I was already thinking in my mind where I would spend the winnings, which I thought were definitely in my hands. So I started spinning spin after spin, the bet was five dollars. I spun nine times and won nothing. I got angry and changed the game, in another I won right away from the first spin. And then I lost everything. Mathematically, I should have won at least a little. The casino thought otherwise.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 28, 2024, 06:48:40 AM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Actually, gambling is a game, not pure gambling,

What do you mean by this? Gambling is not a pure gambling? Gambling is gambling probably you are mixing something with the definition of gambling on your mind. Gambling is gambling which consists of games that involves risking of money through bets.

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here we can conclude that the bookies create a system that cannot be predicted, only they determine the winnings for the lucky ones in the game. They don't invite us to gamble, let alone the money we get from hard work in real work and they only provide a system or site for anyone to play at. When the money you bet is lost, that's real gambling, so you can still avoid it before you fall into addiction.

Bookie doesn’t affect the outcome of the game. They just assign odds on the match based on the probability of that it will be the outcome of the game. Gamblers is the one who choose whether they will risk for higher odds or stick with low odds bet.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 28, 2024, 06:48:40 AM

Actually, gambling is a game, not pure gambling, here we can conclude that the bookies create a system that cannot be predicted, only they determine the winnings for the lucky ones in the game. They don't invite us to gamble, let alone the money we get from hard work in real work and they only provide a system or site for anyone to play at. When the money you bet is lost, that's real gambling, so you can still avoid it before you fall into addiction.

That's why I am more interested in gambling only on soccer betting because we are not fighting the system but analyzing the victory based on more open observations. If you play slots then you will fight the system and of course the system has been set by its maker so that you will only rely on luck. But if we place bets on soccer, it will be entirely determined by the results of the match based on the bets we place. If you are not ready with their system then don't play the bet and when someone decides to gamble they should also be ready for all the consequences that occur.

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