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Quote from: Kelward on January 14, 2025, 11:45:32 AM

I was discussing with someone earlier today and the discussion drifted to gambling and the guy was talking with concern about how gambling can ruin lives. In other words he was implying that gambling is a scam and I realized how people who don't understand responsible gambling will think that it's evil and a scam. He knows me as a responsible person who is always prudent with money, so I told him that I gamble sometimes and I'm still responsible financially. I went further to tell him that gambling hasn't ruined my life and it never will because I don't see gambling as a get rich quick scheme.
Gambling is not a scam unless to somebody that sees it as a short cut to riches. Gambling is not a business, winning in gambling is by luck, if you understand this you wouldn't see it as a scam.

Your purpose in gambling will tell you what gambling is for you. If you think of gambling as a means of earning money or an easy way to get rich quick, then gambling will definitely cheat or scam you. If you think of gambling only as a means of entertainment or playing some games with money where there is a small chance of returning your money. You should not have a small demand for the money you are gambling with. You should control your mind in such a way that you will never get back the money you are gambling with. So gamble with the money that you can afford to lose. In gambling, a person definitely wants to win, but you have to get out of the temptation of money and gamble and always control yourself whether you win or lose.

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I was discussing with someone earlier today and the discussion drifted to gambling and the guy was talking with concern about how gambling can ruin lives. In other words he was implying that gambling is a scam and I realized how people who don't understand responsible gambling will think that it's evil and a scam. He knows me as a responsible person who is always prudent with money, so I told him that I gamble sometimes and I'm still responsible financially. I went further to tell him that gambling hasn't ruined my life and it never will because I don't see gambling as a get rich quick scheme.

Gambling is not a scam unless to somebody that sees it as a short cut to riches. Gambling is not a business, winning in gambling is by luck, if you understand this you wouldn't see it as a scam.

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Quote from: baeva on January 13, 2025, 02:53:30 PM

I think that such behaviour is just the signs of addiction to gambling, or at least a serious signal to think about. But the problem is that not everyone has time to come to their senses and think about what is going on, so people even get into debt. Realities have imposed standards on people that it is possible to make a living out of it, while it has always been just an entertainment for which you pay. And paying for entertainment is the absolute norm

It is not a sign of gambling addiction but a sign of a loser, a loser who never accepts that he has failed and always looks for ways to blame. And for those who do not dare to admit their mistakes but only like to blame, it will be difficult for them to progress and achieve success in life.

By the way, is it correct to call gambling just a form of entertainment? It is true that any form of entertainment requires money but gambling is not one of them. Have you ever seen any entertainment that makes people addicted, crazy, makes many people bankrupt, lose their homes, lose their families like gambling? I don't blame gambling, it's the gamblers fault because they gamble irresponsibly, without self-control. But gambling is clearly not entertainment and should not be considered entertainment because there is no guarantee that we will not become addicted. Responsible gambling is something we need to remember and adhere to instead of saying that we gamble for fun and not for money.

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I think the situation is just a misunderstanding in terms of gambling.

People will always find it hard to accept that hey have lost of failed somewhere. And instead of finding an explanation of that or thinking about the reasons of a failure, people go easy way - by making an accusation of scam, being cheated by dealers or system. It so common for people to do that. It all starts from school, when students complain that teacher put bad marks on purpose, that there are students who teacher love more. Then at work they also complain that there are those who kiss bosses ass, and boss pay them little because he does not like them. People always find excuses.

Its just that people at times are in denial. Especially if it means a loss for them, instead of acceptance, these people resort into blaming someone or something. Gamblers are never an exception. These are the people who rush to gambling despite of lack of knowledge and understanding about the nature of gambling. Most likely because of greed and some stupidity aside, thinking that everything that put them at loss are simply means of scam.

I think that such behaviour is just the signs of addiction to gambling, or at least a serious signal to think about. But the problem is that not everyone has time to come to their senses and think about what is going on, so people even get into debt. Realities have imposed standards on people that it is possible to make a living out of it, while it has always been just an entertainment for which you pay. And paying for entertainment is the absolute norm

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Quote from: Awaklara on January 12, 2025, 10:20:16 AM

I think the situation is just a misunderstanding in terms of gambling.

People will always find it hard to accept that hey have lost of failed somewhere. And instead of finding an explanation of that or thinking about the reasons of a failure, people go easy way - by making an accusation of scam, being cheated by dealers or system. It so common for people to do that. It all starts from school, when students complain that teacher put bad marks on purpose, that there are students who teacher love more. Then at work they also complain that there are those who kiss bosses ass, and boss pay them little because he does not like them. People always find excuses.

Its just that people at times are in denial. Especially if it means a loss for them, instead of acceptance, these people resort into blaming someone or something. Gamblers are never an exception. These are the people who rush to gambling despite of lack of knowledge and understanding about the nature of gambling. Most likely because of greed and some stupidity aside, thinking that everything that put them at loss are simply means of scam.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think gambling becomes a scam if we play only to win money, or if we consider gambling as a job... So when we lose, we will have to find something to blame... and of course, it will be (usually) the house. Gambling is a form of entertainment to get rid of boredom. However, scams can occur in gambling, such as rigged games or fraudulent platforms. That is why gambling responsibly and choosing reputable establishments with a license number are key elements to minimize risks.

Well the only scenario that can be considered as fraud is when it has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, such as a game that is suspected of cheating as you said or when the casino does not pay the amount of winnings obtained by the gamblers or other things, but if for example it turns out that someone assumes that he has been cheated just because he has experienced defeat such as defeat several times then of course it will never sound reasonable, because in general the concept of gambling is about winning and losing, so it can be said that defeat is a natural part of the game. Therefore, in any case before you get involved in an activity, make it a habit to first understand how the activity actually works, especially looking at the positive and negative sides so that in the end you don't misunderstand and end up making accusations.

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Quote from: Odusko on January 13, 2025, 05:48:58 AM

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think gambling becomes a scam if we play only to win money, or if we consider gambling as a job... So when we lose, we will have to find something to blame... and of course, it will be (usually) the house. Gambling is a form of entertainment to get rid of boredom. However, scams can occur in gambling, such as rigged games or fraudulent platforms. That is why gambling responsibly and choosing reputable establishments with a license number are key elements to minimize risks.

Gambling in itself is not and never a scam no matter how we look at it, but the thing is that there are some scammers inside gambling, same way there are scammers in every activity and businesses around the world.

Like you said, some casinos can turn out to be a scam casino, even some gamblers themselves are scammers who prey on other innocent and unsuspecting gamblers, preying on their greed and ignorance to steal their hard earned money.
Gambling in itself is an entertainment activity, though most gamblers today gamble for the sake of making money and not for the sake of entertaining themselves, but still, the possibility to loose money to gambling does not make a scam, losing money through gambling is not the same thing as losing money to a scam, they are two different things.

Sometimes, I wonder where all this mentality of taking gambling as a scam comes from, and in most of the discussions where gambling is mistaken for a scam is the one that the gambler has failed to control his gambling spending and exusting amount that is way bigger than their mental strength when they lose such amount, you see them saying that gambling is a scam whereas they are the ones that have failed to apply caution and gamble with the amount they can afford to lose and still be ok, someone has 0.1BTC and instead of gambling with a fraction like 0.005BTC or even 0.0005BTC he went on to gamble with the whole amount 0.1BTC on a single game given to him as a sure bet, and when the ticket lose be begun to say gambling is a scam because he lost the money, this is insane level of prejudice against gambling.

Such mentality stems from ignorance to proper knowledge of what gambling is all about, some people out there who have never gambled before have this mindset that gambling is a scam, and this mindset is possibly built in them rooting from some ugly experiences some people they know have had through gambling.
While some others who actually have gambled also believe gambling is a scam because just as you have explained, they didn't practice responsible gambling, and when they loose their money, they turn around to accuse the casino of being a scam and reaping them off their hard earned money,, they maybe later conclude that gambling is a scam in general, but the funny thing about this type of people is that even after such utterances or conclusions, they still come around to gamble again, giving me this impression or believe that some of them are not mentally stable.

But anyways, thats their cup of tea, it's a free world and any one can believe whatever he or she wants to believe, really does not change facts and reality.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on January 13, 2025, 05:20:33 AM

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think gambling becomes a scam if we play only to win money, or if we consider gambling as a job... So when we lose, we will have to find something to blame... and of course, it will be (usually) the house. Gambling is a form of entertainment to get rid of boredom. However, scams can occur in gambling, such as rigged games or fraudulent platforms. That is why gambling responsibly and choosing reputable establishments with a license number are key elements to minimize risks.

Gambling in itself is not and never a scam no matter how we look at it, but the thing is that there are some scammers inside gambling, same way there are scammers in every activity and businesses around the world.

Like you said, some casinos can turn out to be a scam casino, even some gamblers themselves are scammers who prey on other innocent and unsuspecting gamblers, preying on their greed and ignorance to steal their hard earned money.
Gambling in itself is an entertainment activity, though most gamblers today gamble for the sake of making money and not for the sake of entertaining themselves, but still, the possibility to loose money to gambling does not make a scam, losing money through gambling is not the same thing as losing money to a scam, they are two different things.

Sometimes, I wonder where all this mentality of taking gambling as a scam comes from, and in most of the discussions where gambling is mistaken for a scam is the one that the gambler has failed to control his gambling spending and exusting amount that is way bigger than their mental strength when they lose such amount, you see them saying that gambling is a scam whereas they are the ones that have failed to apply caution and gamble with the amount they can afford to lose and still be ok, someone has 0.1BTC and instead of gambling with a fraction like 0.005BTC or even 0.0005BTC he went on to gamble with the whole amount 0.1BTC on a single game given to him as a sure bet, and when the ticket lose be begun to say gambling is a scam because he lost the money, this is insane level of prejudice against gambling.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on January 13, 2025, 05:20:33 AM

Gambling in itself is not and never a scam no matter how we look at it, but the thing is that there are some scammers inside gambling, same way there are scammers in every activity and businesses around the world.

Like you said, some casinos can turn out to be a scam casino, even some gamblers themselves are scammers who prey on other innocent and unsuspecting gamblers, preying on their greed and ignorance to steal their hard earned money.
Gambling in itself is an entertainment activity, though most gamblers today gamble for the sake of making money and not for the sake of entertaining themselves, but still, the possibility to loose money to gambling does not make a scam, losing money through gambling is not the same thing as losing money to a scam, they are two different things.

Indeed, there is a lot of fraud in many areas of the Internet, but in gambling there are also many different ways, starting from fake sites similar to popular and well-known sites of other casinos. And ending with other fraudulent schemes, when they do not want to give the winnings that the player has won, inventing various excuses. Therefore, the player must not only think about the game, but also about how to keep their money on the balance in the right casino. The player must carefully study the information in order to play in casinos that have a good reputation and not trust high welcome bonuses on dubious sites.

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Quote from: ? on January 13, 2025, 04:39:36 AM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think gambling becomes a scam if we play only to win money, or if we consider gambling as a job... So when we lose, we will have to find something to blame... and of course, it will be (usually) the house. Gambling is a form of entertainment to get rid of boredom. However, scams can occur in gambling, such as rigged games or fraudulent platforms. That is why gambling responsibly and choosing reputable establishments with a license number are key elements to minimize risks.

Gambling in itself is not and never a scam no matter how we look at it, but the thing is that there are some scammers inside gambling, same way there are scammers in every activity and businesses around the world.

Like you said, some casinos can turn out to be a scam casino, even some gamblers themselves are scammers who prey on other innocent and unsuspecting gamblers, preying on their greed and ignorance to steal their hard earned money.
Gambling in itself is an entertainment activity, though most gamblers today gamble for the sake of making money and not for the sake of entertaining themselves, but still, the possibility to loose money to gambling does not make a scam, losing money through gambling is not the same thing as losing money to a scam, they are two different things.

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Quote from: ? on January 13, 2025, 04:39:36 AM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think gambling becomes a scam if we play only to win money, or if we consider gambling as a job... So when we lose, we will have to find something to blame... and of course, it will be (usually) the house. Gambling is a form of entertainment to get rid of boredom. However, scams can occur in gambling, such as rigged games or fraudulent platforms. That is why gambling responsibly and choosing reputable establishments with a license number are key elements to minimize risks.

True, and among gambling sites there is a lot of spam that accepts deposits, but will not withdraw anything. At the same time, in order to convince the gambler that everything is in order, fake casinos make an interface with games in which any gambler has no chance of winning.

And even such malicious counterfeiters can sometimes let gamblers win in order to divert suspicion, but they will not let gamblers withdraw money, demanding from them more and more new documents to confirm their identity.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think gambling becomes a scam if we play only to win money, or if we consider gambling as a job... So when we lose, we will have to find something to blame... and of course, it will be (usually) the house. Gambling is a form of entertainment to get rid of boredom. However, scams can occur in gambling, such as rigged games or fraudulent platforms. That is why gambling responsibly and choosing reputable establishments with a license number are key elements to minimize risks.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

How did you say that gambling is a scam? I'm just asking this, op? Although it seems like I understand the sentiments you want to convey in the topic you made. Why? did you experience a casino scam in this crypto industry that led you to such a conclusion?

That's why most people always remind you that when you play gambling, you should only gamble with an amount you can afford to lose. The problem is that some people,
when they enter the wrong casino to play at, don't do the right research first.

many people who gamble they have the goal of gambling to seek profit and I think people like this usually forget about the risk of losing which tends to be greater than the chance of winning, so when they lose they do not accept the fact and then conclude that gambling is a fraud. The problem that must be fixed is those who bet on gambling with the aim of seeking profit are usually like this and must be fixed if it is better not to seek profit in gambling because it can make them lose more money.
In addition, we should be able to bet money with the amount we can afford as you said, because when we gamble by forcing ourselves to bet with an amount beyond our ability, it is definitely a behavior of gambling addiction or obsession with pursuing victory which is actually not certain.

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Quote from: bakasabo on January 12, 2025, 10:54:11 AM

Quote from: Awaklara on January 12, 2025, 10:20:16 AM

I think the situation is just a misunderstanding in terms of gambling.

People will always find it hard to accept that hey have lost of failed somewhere. And instead of finding an explanation of that or thinking about the reasons of a failure, people go easy way - by making an accusation of scam, being cheated by dealers or system. It so common for people to do that. It all starts from school, when students complain that teacher put bad marks on purpose, that there are students who teacher love more. Then at work they also complain that there are those who kiss bosses ass, and boss pay them little because he does not like them. People always find excuses.

True, instead of looking for reasons why they have to fail or experience a huge loss, they will take the easy way and immediately accuse whatever is in front of them, it is a form of justification and they do not want to position themselves as someone who is wrong. This is something that we often encounter in anything, even in gambling this is a very common thing. We can see someone coming straight to their point and saying the casino has cheated them, but they also cannot provide any evidence to confirm that they are the big ones. So it is also very natural if we conclude that in this case they are the ones who are wrong.

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Quote from: Awaklara on January 12, 2025, 10:20:16 AM

I think the situation is just a misunderstanding in terms of gambling.

People will always find it hard to accept that hey have lost of failed somewhere. And instead of finding an explanation of that or thinking about the reasons of a failure, people go easy way - by making an accusation of scam, being cheated by dealers or system. It so common for people to do that. It all starts from school, when students complain that teacher put bad marks on purpose, that there are students who teacher love more. Then at work they also complain that there are those who kiss bosses ass, and boss pay them little because he does not like them. People always find excuses.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

How did you say that gambling is a scam? I'm just asking this, op? Although it seems like I understand the sentiments you want to convey in the topic you made. Why? did you experience a casino scam in this crypto industry that led you to such a conclusion?

That's why most people always remind you that when you play gambling, you should only gamble with an amount you can afford to lose. The problem is that some people,
when they enter the wrong casino to play at, don't do the right research first.

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Quote from: Y3shot on January 12, 2025, 09:04:49 AM

Gambling is risky and not a scam, that is why whoever is thinking of gambling should always have two things in mind either lose or a win and they can be predicted that is why gambling can be refer to be risky than scam because it is not everybody that plays gamble that lose. As some people lose in gambling some people also win because it is unpredicted.

It is possible that their are some gambling company that àre not reliable and can't be trusted, that is why it is very important to use a reputable gambling site to gamble that is well known for paying gamblers wins and without any complicated issues that can cause one not to be able to cashout wins.

Accusations to the casino after losing are just a form of frustration and disappointment from gamblers who experience defeat and do not get the victory.
Casinos or some slot game websites offer big wins in their advertisements. However, gamblers misunderstand that the offer from the casino is a chance to win, not a promising victory for gamblers.
I think the situation is just a misunderstanding in terms of gambling.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 12, 2025, 07:46:57 AM

I think 50+ years ago gambling was a scam everywhere without exceptions. But then at some point somewhere around 30 years ago or so gambling operators started to realize that being fair is profitable, and now we have the situation when all known gambling platforms are fair, and gambling remains a scam only some in sh*tty countries or regions. Avoid playing there, guys. If you want to have fun with gambling, choose to play only in places run by reputable a and well-known operators.

As you said, to avoid being scammed, we should choose a casino with a famous and reputable operator. This means that scam comes from the behavior of the people behind the casino and not the fault of gambling because gambling itself is just a tool, it cannot scam us. Or rather, scammers are using gambling to carry out their scams, we cannot blame or say that gambling is a scam.

Many people see gambling as a way to get rich quick, they use it to do wrong things or misuse the original purpose of gambling...and when things don't go as expected. They blame gambling instead of admitting that the fault lies with them, which is unfair.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

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Gambling can never be a scam. Gambling is just a game. If the name of this game were anything other than gambling, then this game would be known by that name. This game is called risk because by playing this game, some people become rich overnight or become banana trees, and some become street beggars overnight. We can call some people involved in gambling bad, but not everyone is bad. A handful of people think that the entire game is a scam.

Gambling is risky and not a scam, that is why whoever is thinking of gambling should always have two things in mind either lose or a win and they can be predicted that is why gambling can be refer to be risky than scam because it is not everybody that plays gamble that lose. As some people lose in gambling some people also win because it is unpredicted.

It is possible that their are some gambling company that àre not reliable and can't be trusted, that is why it is very important to use a reputable gambling site to gamble that is well known for paying gamblers wins and without any complicated issues that can cause one not to be able to cashout wins.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on January 12, 2025, 08:08:32 AM

Talking about rich people, yes, usually they are the type of people who really like to see everything from various sides before they get involved, especially if for example the activity involves money and risk, usually they will only be serious if for example the activity has certainty and guarantee to produce, and I am sure rich people must know and understand about what and how gambling is especially from the concept of winning and losing and that is what makes me agree with your idea that they most likely will not take gambling too seriously. So with that I am very sure that most likely the purpose of rich people getting involved in gambling is just to find entertainment in the midst of the busyness they have in their lives, usually they only gamble when they have boring free time and losing will not be a problem for them.

This is about attitude, not being rich. You can easily adjust your bets lower, so the impact of that loss would be basically same as with rich people.

Also rich people don't automatically have better risk management system, in fact some of them might be rich or go bankrupt because they are taking huge risks. Others can be rich because they are rich by default as they are born in rich families. Being rich doesn't come from specific set of attributes in a person.

In some cases they benefit from being taught how to deal with their money from young age, and in most cases they have people dealing with their money for them. So they aren't really "better with money" by default or make more informed decisions. That comes with knowledge and skills that help you adapt that knowledge.

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