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Quote from: LDL on August 28, 2024, 05:48:03 PM

Taxes are collected only in countries where gambling is legalized but in countries where gambling is not legal how do you explain the positive side of gambling.

For example, my country Bangladesh has not legalized gambling but there are millions of gamblers in my country who are always involved in street theft and robbery.

But I would say whatever the positive side of gambling is, gambling is really a curse in low income countries like my country of Bangladesh.

You are right, I agree with you. Most of our people in Bangladesh are low income people so gambling is really a curse in our country. Yet many low-income people in our country gamble and lose money by gambling. I know a day laborer in my area who lost money by gambling and got into a lot of debt. At one point he used to indulge in bad deeds like stealing ducks, chickens and pigeons from people's houses. Gambling is good for fun, but low income people should not gamble. For those who earn a lot of money, gambling is good for fun. We do not see any positive aspect of gambling in our country. Gambling is bad for society in our country.

Just as there are gamblers in your local area, so are drug addicts and gamblers in my area. Usually they intimidate people on the streets and extort money and use that money to participate in drug and gambling. This has become a common sight in my local area and law enforcement cannot control it. The economic condition of my country is so bad that it is difficult to run a household well and it is even more difficult to manage gambling money. So usually gamblers and drug addicts are mainly involved in various anti-social activities and heinous activities like extortion, robbery and terrorism.

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People just need to reset their mind and stop thinking that gambling is a money issues solution, but an entertainment. Then people would stop considering that it is bad for society.

Yes, that is right. I still see in some society in my city, some people playing traditional gambling which is card game using money. They like to playing card game in the cornet of the city without anyone knows. They think that they can make money like the other winner but they don't think about the risks. Gambling is prohibit in my country but that doesn't mean stops people to playing gambling, mostly they playing card games. But maybe they playing the other gambling games because I heard they buy lottery too. I just wonder if more people playing card game secretly, that can impact their finances and their family will be abandoned because they don't think to fills their family needs.

You can't say for sure that they are trying to win money. Some people find rest and relaxation in it, understandably there are those who think they can make money out of it, that they are smarter than everyone else and will be lucky today. But those who relax in this way is unlikely to ever lose their fortune, this type of people are able to control the situation and realise that there are limits to what is permissible

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Quote from: Onyeeze on August 28, 2024, 03:45:22 PM

the gambling that generate economy for the country is a gambling website or platform that operate with license but so many of them who does not operate with license does not pay a tax to a government because they are illegal gambling platform so I believe that some of them that operate in such way does not have any economic boost up to the Country or to the government of them who operates legally are the one that I have a positive sign to the Country they reside on, I'm not kicking against your theory but I have to express my feeling.

The gambling site which was legal in the some of the countries,in that country alone the gambling site pay the taxes to the government.In rest of the country the gambling site was work by using the vpn to pay and the gambling site will not pay the taxes to that country even they generate income through the gambling site.So this was illegal one in that country,the better way to generate money from the gambling is make this legal by the government and get the taxes legally from the gambling site and finally use the taxes for the people welfare.

that is what I'm was saying that any gambling site that pay tax in any country that is to show that that the gambling website or platform have a license and it is legalized once some people always find it very difficult to see a gambling that doesn't pay taxes because of the country the gambling website base secondly when a gambling does not operate with kyc that it shows that the gambling website operate legally but when it is involved of kyc verification that is to show that the tumbling of site I have a license so you can find it very difficult before you see any operating website that pay taxes and they are well registered

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Quote from: jcojci on August 29, 2024, 07:00:40 AM

Quote from: bakasabo on August 29, 2024, 05:32:14 AM

People just need to reset their mind and stop thinking that gambling is a money issues solution, but an entertainment. Then people would stop considering that it is bad for society.

But maybe they playing the other gambling games because I heard they buy lottery too. I just wonder if more people playing card game secretly, that can impact their finances and their family will be abandoned because they don't think to fills their family needs.

Gambling prohibition won’t stop card players. It’ll only make players scared sick of outdoor gaming. The only effect “prohibition” has on society is to elevate “secretive gaming”. Lawmakers know it, but the bill is passed to eliminate gambling companies from functioning in the country. Gaming is quite large in publicity to be restricted…for players. And secret gambling activities spread faster in the society just like in places where it’s legalized.

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Quote from: jcojci on August 29, 2024, 07:00:40 AM

Quote from: bakasabo on August 29, 2024, 05:32:14 AM

People just need to reset their mind and stop thinking that gambling is a money issues solution, but an entertainment. Then people would stop considering that it is bad for society.

Yes, that is right. I still see in some society in my city, some people playing traditional gambling which is card game using money. They like to playing card game in the cornet of the city without anyone knows. They think that they can make money like the other winner but they don't think about the risks. Gambling is prohibit in my country but that doesn't mean stops people to playing gambling, mostly they playing card games. But maybe they playing the other gambling games because I heard they buy lottery too. I just wonder if more people playing card game secretly, that can impact their finances and their family will be abandoned because they don't think to fills their family needs.

If any game can be managed within control then no problem arises. And when uncontrolled, disaster is certain. I have some friends who don't gamble but occasionally express their enthusiasm for gambling. They bet very small amounts there so that everyone there is afraid of losing money and they enjoy the game with concentration. Not everyone is gambling with the same motive. Disaster is only a matter of time for those who choose gambling to make money. Although there are many who have won a lot from gambling but in gambling does not favor luck equally for everyone. As long as a gambler manage gambling within his control, he is safe, but when he gambles with other people's money, disaster begins. And from here various negative effects of the society started.

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Quote from: LDL on August 28, 2024, 05:48:03 PM

Quote from: HelliumZ on August 28, 2024, 03:29:10 PM

We know that everything has both positive and negative effects, gambling is no exception. Gambling plays some role in the economic development of the society and the country. In particular, the government receives a special economic development tax from gambling. However, when considered individually in the society, gambling is very harmful especially when considering the members of a middle class and lower class family. In order to manage gambling money, he is seen creating various social problems and does not hesitate to commit heinous crimes like theft, robbery and even murder. In my opinion, gambling does more harm than good to people.

Taxes are collected only in countries where gambling is legalized but in countries where gambling is not legal how do you explain the positive side of gambling.

For example, my country Bangladesh has not legalized gambling but there are millions of gamblers in my country who are always involved in street theft and robbery.

But I would say whatever the positive side of gambling is, gambling is really a curse in low income countries like my country of Bangladesh.

I understand your point. It’s more better if gambling practice is prohibited in an underdeveloped country like for example, people who find it difficult affording their needs should not get involve rather they should be advised to look for a better job because most people view gambling wins as a job and it’s so wrong, what happens if the gambler never get to win rather lose.
Gambling is not bad despite the condition most or choose to fix themselves when gambling. People gamble badly that’s the problem and it’s not a must like the example set above, if my country is against gambling it’s better I abstain from such act.

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Quote from: South Park on August 28, 2024, 01:54:32 PM

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Crazy it is and those that have been winning great but then are bad with risk management, that money that they've got will be gone in the wind quickly.
They think that luck comes at most times where in fact that it's not. And that's why every profit that someone makes from the bets that they do should be taken care of properly.

There is a lot of empirical evidence this is the case, as even those that win a big jackpot or the lottery soon enough find themselves facing all kinds of financial trouble despite all of the money they got, and it is not surprising this is the case, since they do not know the amount of effort that it would have taken to earn that money by working hard, so they spend that money thinking that it is never going to run out, until one day it does and they are left with a lot of debts they cannot pay.

That's true, they've taken that vast money easily so they're going to spend it carelessly easily. But if someone values their winnings and they understand how hard it is to earn a lot of money based on the winnings that they've got, they will for sure going to protect it with all their might and will start to spend wisely so that it won't be gone too soon. Many of these type of gamblers really are ashamed of themselves when they've taken the spotlight but then later on losses almost everything that they've won.

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Quote from: Su-asa on August 29, 2024, 09:08:34 AM

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It's like in physics, the energy never disappears it just changes form and it's the same with the money. Whether you spend money in a casino, waste it on netflix subscriptions, get a plastic surgery, or a new car, the money changes hands, moves around.

You could say that casinos are bad, but they pay taxes, they help circulate money, they move wealth from one person to the other.

Do you really believe that the gambling addict who wastes money every single day on a slot machine would spend time with his family if there was no casino? He's doing that to escape the family life, hios job and reality. Many of these people would become drug addicts or alcoholics. That's how I see it.

You can';t make the world better by removing a casino because people will find other ways to gamble.

You have a point but I don't think gamblers get addicted to gambling to escape reality or responsibilities, but actually they try to use gambling to create the delusional lifestyle they think can be achieved by taking risks, Asides from that they are not heartless to abandon their loved ones and career intentionally because that would be inhuman, the addiction is what affect different areas of their lives. I agree with the last point you made, a gambler will always be a gambler with or without a casino

That's true. There are gamblers who are addicted because they have a goal to find more money in gambling and that's actually not a good thing because the house always wins.

But I might not agree with not getting addicted because they want to escape reality. It is also possible to happen because there are now gamblers who are staying at home with their work and they have nothing else to do so they look at gambling and maybe it will help them ease some of their stress.
For me, that's a gambling addiction that came from escaping reality or from boredom since everything can now be done at home.
It's a different era now so addiction can come from anywhere.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on May 23, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

It's like in physics, the energy never disappears it just changes form and it's the same with the money. Whether you spend money in a casino, waste it on netflix subscriptions, get a plastic surgery, or a new car, the money changes hands, moves around.

You could say that casinos are bad, but they pay taxes, they help circulate money, they move wealth from one person to the other.

Do you really believe that the gambling addict who wastes money every single day on a slot machine would spend time with his family if there was no casino? He's doing that to escape the family life, hios job and reality. Many of these people would become drug addicts or alcoholics. That's how I see it.

You can';t make the world better by removing a casino because people will find other ways to gamble.

You have a point but I don't think gamblers get addicted to gambling to escape reality or responsibilities, but actually they try to use gambling to create the delusional lifestyle they think can be achieved by taking risks, Asides from that they are not heartless to abandon their loved ones and career intentionally because that would be inhuman, the addiction is what affect different areas of their lives. I agree with the last point you made, a gambler will always be a gambler with or without a casino

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Taxes are collected only in countries where gambling is legalized but in countries where gambling is not legal how do you explain the positive side of gambling.

For example, my country Bangladesh has not legalized gambling but there are millions of gamblers in my country who are always involved in street theft and robbery.

But I would say whatever the positive side of gambling is, gambling is really a curse in low income countries like my country of Bangladesh.

You are right, I agree with you. Most of our people in Bangladesh are low income people so gambling is really a curse in our country. Yet many low-income people in our country gamble and lose money by gambling. I know a day laborer in my area who lost money by gambling and got into a lot of debt. At one point he used to indulge in bad deeds like stealing ducks, chickens and pigeons from people's houses. Gambling is good for fun, but low income people should not gamble. For those who earn a lot of money, gambling is good for fun. We do not see any positive aspect of gambling in our country. Gambling is bad for society in our country.

All these low income people want to get rich by gambling, but they lose more and more, until they become destitute at once, Until then their greed does not end, even if they have little money, they gamble with it. And in the end they lose everything and indulge in bad deeds like stealing. Gambling has affected our country Bangladesh very badly. Gambling is really a big curse in a poor country like Bangladesh.

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Quote from: LDL on August 28, 2024, 05:48:03 PM

Taxes are collected only in countries where gambling is legalized but in countries where gambling is not legal how do you explain the positive side of gambling.

For example, my country Bangladesh has not legalized gambling but there are millions of gamblers in my country who are always involved in street theft and robbery.

But I would say whatever the positive side of gambling is, gambling is really a curse in low income countries like my country of Bangladesh.

You are right, I agree with you. Most of our people in Bangladesh are low income people so gambling is really a curse in our country. Yet many low-income people in our country gamble and lose money by gambling. I know a day laborer in my area who lost money by gambling and got into a lot of debt. At one point he used to indulge in bad deeds like stealing ducks, chickens and pigeons from people's houses. Gambling is good for fun, but low income people should not gamble. For those who earn a lot of money, gambling is good for fun. We do not see any positive aspect of gambling in our country. Gambling is bad for society in our country.

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Quote from: madnessteat on August 29, 2024, 06:38:54 AM

Quote from: bakasabo on August 29, 2024, 05:32:14 AM

People just need to reset their mind and stop thinking that gambling is a money issues solution, but an entertainment. Then people would stop considering that it is bad for society. Smoking is also bad for society, but some smoke to lose stress, government receive huge budget refill with excise tax, cigarettes' factories give working places for thousands of people, shops make profit through trading. Huge bad industry give benefits for lots of people, when only some of smokers have real hard health problems.

Absolutely. Each of us decides for himself what he can bring to society. I am sure that my passion for gambling has not brought anything bad to society, because I play only with money that I earn on my own and I do not cross the line of the law because of gambling.

If a person does not care about everything, he will bring negativity to society. There are many levers for this and he does not even need to gamble.

Right and indeed for that problem I think it depends on the level of concern you have, if you care about other people then you should not bring other people to get involved with the habits you have even if you advise them to become responsible gamblers, because we know that gambling is an activity that can be very high risk so of course there is a possibility for other people to get involved in an impulsive approach even though they previously told us that they would become responsible gamblers.

On the other hand I think the gambling habits that we have are likely to have a bad impact on other people when we use loans as an alternative to gambling, because in most cases loans can usually be a trigger for problems especially when the loan is used to fulfill your gambling habits, but I would say that most likely this will only be done by gamblers who have an impulsive approach, because if they have a mindset and approach like you have where you only gamble when you have personal money that you can afford to lose then borrowing will not be something you will choose just to fulfill your gambling habits.

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Quote from: bakasabo on August 29, 2024, 05:32:14 AM

People just need to reset their mind and stop thinking that gambling is a money issues solution, but an entertainment. Then people would stop considering that it is bad for society.

Yes, that is right. I still see in some society in my city, some people playing traditional gambling which is card game using money. They like to playing card game in the cornet of the city without anyone knows. They think that they can make money like the other winner but they don't think about the risks. Gambling is prohibit in my country but that doesn't mean stops people to playing gambling, mostly they playing card games. But maybe they playing the other gambling games because I heard they buy lottery too. I just wonder if more people playing card game secretly, that can impact their finances and their family will be abandoned because they don't think to fills their family needs.

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Quote from: bakasabo on August 29, 2024, 05:32:14 AM

People just need to reset their mind and stop thinking that gambling is a money issues solution, but an entertainment. Then people would stop considering that it is bad for society. Smoking is also bad for society, but some smoke to lose stress, government receive huge budget refill with excise tax, cigarettes' factories give working places for thousands of people, shops make profit through trading. Huge bad industry give benefits for lots of people, when only some of smokers have real hard health problems.

Absolutely. Each of us decides for himself what he can bring to society. I am sure that my passion for gambling has not brought anything bad to society, because I play only with money that I earn on my own and I do not cross the line of the law because of gambling.

If a person does not care about everything, he will bring negativity to society. There are many levers for this and he does not even need to gamble.

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Quote from: satscraper on August 29, 2024, 01:20:12 AM

Can not get why gambling could be bad to the society. This industry creates extra jobs, pay taxes, gives people a fun, denique. Sure, there are some negative sides ^{(as in any other human activity)} but all of them are of the human kind, thus society should foster awareness of those let-downs to mitigate its influence on their members. Taboo on gambling would not solve any relevant problem.

I think it is commonly believed because gambling is associated with the development of addiction. Which in turn has a negative impact not only on the person who develops it, but also on the people around him (I wrote about this above). But addictions of this kind also arise from activities that society is not accustomed to calling addictive.

For example, many people are truly addicted to shopping. They cannot miss a new collection, they buy new things every season, despite the fact that last year's are still in good condition. And such addiction is only encouraged because it is beneficial for the capitalist system. Only it is not customary to talk about it as something that has such a negative social effect as gambling.

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People just need to reset their mind and stop thinking that gambling is a money issues solution, but an entertainment. Then people would stop considering that it is bad for society. Smoking is also bad for society, but some smoke to lose stress, government receive huge budget refill with excise tax, cigarettes' factories give working places for thousands of people, shops make profit through trading. Huge bad industry give benefits for lots of people, when only some of smokers have real hard health problems.

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Quote from: satscraper on August 29, 2024, 01:20:12 AM

Can not get why gambling could be bad to the society. This industry creates extra jobs, pay taxes, gives people a fun, denique. Sure, there are some negative sides ^{(as in any other human activity)} but all of them are of the human kind, thus society should foster awareness of those let-downs to mitigate its influence on their members. Taboo on gambling would not solve any relevant problem.

Absolutely agree with you. A huge number of people die in car accidents every day, but that doesn't mean that the automobile industry has a negative impact on society. The same goes for gambling. Society can only be influenced by the behavior of an individual, not by some things or entertainment. Society like any other structure can self-organize and decide what is acceptable and what is not. Gambling was invented a long time ago and is still in demand, so it is not as negative an impact on society as some people think.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on August 28, 2024, 04:46:50 PM

- If the result is not good for a gambler, it cannot be considered good for society, especially if the gambling that a player plays in a casino is illegal. Gambling is also sometimes given a wrong interpretation.

Especially for the particular poor people who have no hope in life and then they see hope that gambling is the solution for them to get out of the depressed state of poverty they are facing and something that is not also correct.

That's why you can see many people who gamble become addicted and destroy their lives and families. In some countries, many poor people think that gambling will be their hope to change their lives. This becomes even more uncontrollable when someone actually wins the jackpot and is invited to various podcasts to tell their story. An addict doesn't know that there is actually only 1 in 100 or 1000 people who can be successful and rich from gambling. Most of the rich are casino owners and bookies. Gamblers are customers so customers should pay, not be paid. Winning is a bonus, but losing is something that is certain to be obtained when you start gambling.

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Quote from: deadsea33 on August 29, 2024, 01:43:49 AM

Gambling may or may not be bad for society. It is usually your understanding of how the effects of gambling can be later. As far as I understand it is never possible for a real gambler to always underestimate it. Whatever you do if it is good then it will be good for the society and if that action is bad then it will bring something bad for the society. So if you can't come out of it, you can have a huge impact on the society. The reason is that you do not live alone in the society so you will be pressured differently to come out of it.

It boils down to the responsibility of each gambler and how their hobby affects society. Thus, yeah, it's pretty hard to say from the get-go whether it bad or good, because cases are different Grin

Better yet just to strive to be a responsible and self-disciplined gambler, and try to to teach others to do the same, sharing your experiences.

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Gambling may or may not be bad for society. It is usually your understanding of how the effects of gambling can be later. As far as I understand it is never possible for a real gambler to always underestimate it. Whatever you do if it is good then it will be good for the society and if that action is bad then it will bring something bad for the society. So if you can't come out of it, you can have a huge impact on the society. The reason is that you do not live alone in the society so you will be pressured differently to come out of it.

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