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Quote from: betswift on August 28, 2024, 03:39:52 AM

Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2024, 03:35:40 AM

People say gambling is bad for the society because the society consist of people that lacks self control Cheesy

Who is to be blame? For every decisions that humans made it is on us if we succeeded or fumbled, if you get out on the street and kill a man you will be jailed, it is a decision that you made yourself, it is the same with gambling.

A gun can take a life and also protect lives, even weapon of mass destructions were built to scare enemies away, to leave a country alone in peace.

Gambling can make or break you, make sure you can handle it, if you can't you are free to leave.

It's everybody's choice what to do with that knowledge and possibilities at hand. You are right.

Of course toying the path of gambling responsibly is an individual choice because I knew some gamblers with reference to soccer betting who knows what they are doing when gambling that is they only gamble with the amount of money they can afford to lose and some of those gamblers use their proceed from betting to support themselves thus I don't categorize those responsible gamblers as bad to the society, though we have addicted gamblers who had painted gambling in a bad light but I believe they are very few and we wouldn't use them to categorize gambling as bad to the society.

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Quote from: blockman on August 28, 2024, 11:20:56 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 28, 2024, 10:15:54 AM

bad risk management I'd say, no amount of luck will beat a bad enough risk management if you give the situation enough time to unroll
it's sad that some people risk and lose it all but we have to remember that is their responsibility after all

crazy how the world is...

Crazy it is and those that have been winning great but then are bad with risk management, that money that they've got will be gone in the wind quickly.
They think that luck comes at most times where in fact that it's not. And that's why every profit that someone makes from the bets that they do should be taken care of properly.

Yes I think that's for sure, in any case when for example someone has a way to get something but they don't have any tools to keep something they've got then obviously in the end it won't take long for it to be lost again, and in the case of gambling usually yes the amount of winnings is lost again in the game. In this matter I think there are several things that need to be fixed first, the first is knowing and understanding about how the chances of winning in gambling actually are, make sure that you know that the name of the opportunity is nothing more than a possibility and not a certainty, and what you must also understand is that there is no connection between the previous results and the next results, in the sense that even though now you win for example it doesn't mean you will win again if you continue. And also know that the name of the risk will continue to lurk as long as you play, and I'm pretty sure that this understanding and knowledge can make you ignore greed.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 28, 2024, 10:15:54 AM

bad risk management I'd say, no amount of luck will beat a bad enough risk management if you give the situation enough time to unroll
it's sad that some people risk and lose it all but we have to remember that is their responsibility after all

crazy how the world is...

Crazy it is and those that have been winning great but then are bad with risk management, that money that they've got will be gone in the wind quickly.
They think that luck comes at most times where in fact that it's not. And that's why every profit that someone makes from the bets that they do should be taken care of properly.

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Quote from: shasan on August 19, 2024, 03:28:16 PM

There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.

Yes I agree with you that geographically in many societies gambling is considered a bad habit yet there is a large number of gamblers. People who gamble are socially isolated and viewed negatively, but controlled gambling can be positive for people. For example gambling should be considered by people as a form of entertainment which is not only a source of income but many people consider it as a source of income and lot of lost money. He is in social and family disaster. If a gambler can allocate a limited amount of money for gambling, he can allocate spare time to gambling in addition to meeting family needs.

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Quote from: shasan on August 19, 2024, 03:28:16 PM

There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.

I think, what makes it bad is because the gambler himself has a bad attitude, because with the bad results he gets in gambling until they do something negative. Thus, they say gambling is bad even though in reality the gambler himself is the one who makes gambling seen as bad, because it has a negative impact. But, if the gambler can control his emotions well then I am sure that the gambler and gambling will not be seen as bad when they have good control over themselves. With that reason, then at least I do not blame gambling entirely, because what makes it bad is those who have excessive emotions.

bad risk management I'd say, no amount of luck will beat a bad enough risk management if you give the situation enough time to unroll
it's sad that some people risk and lose it all but we have to remember that is their responsibility after all

crazy how the world is...

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on August 28, 2024, 08:12:18 AM

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 27, 2024, 12:17:08 PM

what do you think? gambling should always be allowed for everyone?

I think that it is definitely not for everyone, definitely not for people who have an irresistible urge to gamble and can't stop in time. But I honestly do not see how this access can be regulated, except for the development of self-control. With the advent of the Internet and VPNs, even restricting gambling in a certain country is not an obstacle for those who want to do it. The casinos themselves will not deny access to players, because this is the source of their income, and they are able to make money from such an addiction.

I agree with you. And even the reason why some countries prohibit gambling is because gambling can have a very bad effect if not regulated properly because it can destroy a country. Imagine if all your citizens are gambling addicts and gamblers. Then there will be a lot of crime because people want to get a lot of money to gamble. In some countries like Singapore gambling is legalized but under very strict regulations from the government and only gambling in certain places. But the point is gambling cannot be allowed carelessly because it has the potential to ruin the future of children who are not yet mature and wise in thinking.

Sometimes the governments of countries are also helpless against the gambling evil, although they have set regulations for gamblers to comply with, but it seems that the effect is not as expected, regulations without people to control make everything happen according to the players' wishes, management is very limited because the resources allocated to this field are not enough, it is impossible to always remind and punish others, it can only rely on self-awareness. Unfortunately, gambling seems to teach people more effectively than a harsh person like the government, a section of the youth are following this seductive lead and are throwing away their future path.

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Quote from: Etranger on August 28, 2024, 04:52:12 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 27, 2024, 12:17:08 PM

what do you think? gambling should always be allowed for everyone?

I think that it is definitely not for everyone, definitely not for people who have an irresistible urge to gamble and can't stop in time. But I honestly do not see how this access can be regulated, except for the development of self-control. With the advent of the Internet and VPNs, even restricting gambling in a certain country is not an obstacle for those who want to do it. The casinos themselves will not deny access to players, because this is the source of their income, and they are able to make money from such an addiction.

I agree with you. And even the reason why some countries prohibit gambling is because gambling can have a very bad effect if not regulated properly because it can destroy a country. Imagine if all your citizens are gambling addicts and gamblers. Then there will be a lot of crime because people want to get a lot of money to gamble. In some countries like Singapore gambling is legalized but under very strict regulations from the government and only gambling in certain places. But the point is gambling cannot be allowed carelessly because it has the potential to ruin the future of children who are not yet mature and wise in thinking.

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Quote from: bubilas on August 28, 2024, 01:58:12 AM

It is always very sad to hear that families are destroyed because of uncontrolled gambling. Because in a family, a man should be a breadwinner, he should look for money to provide for the family, so that his wife and children are happy.
And if a man is not even a slacker, but also takes money and things out of the house, then this is terrible. Especially if there is a small child in the apartment, or even a child of a different age. After all, then they look to the father as an example, but he sets a bad example, and this has a bad effect on the children.

Yes, that is right because their kids will see what happens to their family and difficult to accept. That can be a trauma for their kids because they see their dad can not control his gambling habit and even lose their money in the gambling table. When many people in that society destroyed because of uncontrolled gambling, we will see many of them becomes addicted to gambling and that will difficult to solve the problem. Even if their family want to help, that will not easy because addicted people to gambling will gather with other who have the same thing. It is about how we can adapt with the current situation in our society and if we know that other people in that society playing gambling, we don't have closer to them. We can get attract with them easily because gambling can tempts people without takes too long. So that is why we must be careful when we socialize with other people in our neighborhood.

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Gambling is not bad for the society, because this same gambling has been a narrow escape for desciplined gamblers around the world, it is no lie that casinos makes the best money off gamblers but there are many gamblers with good stories all because of gambling.

If anyone thinks otherwise I will like to ask them to mention any source of making money that has no risk, the reason why gambling could be bad for a society is because the society consist of idiots only and even their government is aware of it, to me this is a big shame for them, they should know that gambling comes with it own risks.

Out of irresponsible gambling an addict is always born, and this doesn't leave greediness behind, you don't need to control people to be a responsible gambler, they say curiosity kill the cat, only one way to find out, you can't do a mistake with gambling and not learning in an instant what gambling is all about, only stupid people fall at the messy of gambling.

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Quote from: nullama on August 28, 2024, 05:12:25 AM

.... because if the majority of people do it, then yes, that is a problem.

Same with gambling addiction.

Sadly, but it could be the other way around. If the majority does something, then it could become a new normal. If most people play in casinos, it won't be considered something reprehensible and shameful. Because everyone else does it too. And the question will arise: what's the problem? And addiction will not be considered a problem, but a feature that is forced to be tolerated. In Western society, this is already commonplace on a number of issues. So gambling will not be an exception, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Etranger on August 28, 2024, 04:52:12 AM

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I think that it is definitely not for everyone, definitely not for people who have an irresistible urge to gamble and can't stop in time. But I honestly do not see how this access can be regulated, except for the development of self-control. With the advent of the Internet and VPNs, even restricting gambling in a certain country is not an obstacle for those who want to do it. The casinos themselves will not deny access to players, because this is the source of their income, and they are able to make money from such an addiction.

Yeah, I think there are many things in society that can't be effectively enforced reasonably.

For example, fare evasion on public transport, or people stealing stuff from shops/groceries, etc...

As a society you need to put some kind of pressure and a show that basically you are enforcing it, but in reality you can't.

You will see people jumping barriers in metros next to security and nothing happens, same with people grabbing something from the shops, many times they just walk away because it's more of a hassle than what it's worth.

They try to make it look like a problem so that the masses don't do it, because if the majority of people do it, then yes, that is a problem.

Same with gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Etranger on August 28, 2024, 04:52:12 AM

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Absolutely agree with you that regulation in this area doesn't work as long as there are ways around blocking. And in general, I believe that there is nothing better when a person has an understanding of the risks of gambling and tries to control himself. As the history of many countries shows, bans do not give significant results in the fight against undesirable trends, but only open another shadow market beyond the control of the authorities. Which of these is more destructive to society is a big question.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 27, 2024, 12:17:08 PM

what do you think? gambling should always be allowed for everyone?

I think that it is definitely not for everyone, definitely not for people who have an irresistible urge to gamble and can't stop in time. But I honestly do not see how this access can be regulated, except for the development of self-control. With the advent of the Internet and VPNs, even restricting gambling in a certain country is not an obstacle for those who want to do it. The casinos themselves will not deny access to players, because this is the source of their income, and they are able to make money from such an addiction.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2024, 03:35:40 AM

People say gambling is bad for the society because the society consist of people that lacks self control Cheesy

Who is to be blame? For every decisions that humans made it is on us if we succeeded or fumbled, if you get out on the street and kill a man you will be jailed, it is a decision that you made yourself, it is the same with gambling.

A gun can take a life and also protect lives, even weapon of mass destructions were built to scare enemies away, to leave a country alone in peace.

Gambling can make or break you, make sure you can handle it, if you can't you are free to leave.

It's everybody's choice what to do with that knowledge and possibilities at hand. You are right.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on August 19, 2024, 04:58:06 PM

Quote from: nullama on August 19, 2024, 03:11:32 AM

At the end of the day gambling is a personal problem.

If a gambler is by themselves in an island with a phone connected to the internet they can also gamble all their money away.

It's not a social problem like, say, bullying, or something else like that.

I also agree with you, but one thing too is that someone did not just wake up and start gambling one day; sometimes the environment they find themselves in can also influence their involvement in gambling.

If someone starts and grows up where they don't come across any form of gambling activity, there is a great possibility that they might not pick up an interest in gambling in their life. Even if they see such things online, only a few will pick up an interest and decide to try them out.

It all boils down to individual interest. If someone that didn't grow up in a gambling environment happens to know about gambling in future, he might misunderstand the purpose for gambling and will gamble for profit due to his mindset. I have also seen people whose most of his family members are gamblers but didn't gamble.

Human can change easily especially when they are after making money and that is why you see the good guy becoming a bad guy because he wants to make money by all means. Whoever is lazy and doesn't want to work hard to earn a living will end up being a gambler irrespective of his environment from young age.

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People say gambling is bad for the society because the society consist of people that lacks self control Cheesy

Who is to be blame? For every decisions that humans made it is on us if we succeeded or fumbled, if you get out on the street and kill a man you will be jailed, it is a decision that you made yourself, it is the same with gambling.

A gun can take a life and also protect lives, even weapon of mass destructions were built to scare enemies away, to leave a country alone in peace.

Gambling can make or break you, make sure you can handle it, if you can't you are free to leave.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on August 28, 2024, 12:57:23 AM

Well that true, gambling does have impacts and consequences that may cause someone to experience difficult problems in their life, but all of this will only happen to every gambler who cannot take care of themselves.
Good and bad impacts of gambling will always depend on how each person responds and also has an approach to gambling, those who can be responsible and control themselves and continue to gamble without the ambition of making money can still be on the right track.
It just that we often find many gamblers who are addicted and they experience financial ruin or even their families because of the impact of gambling addiction, this is clearly the fault of the gambler himself, blaming gambling too much in cases like this I think is still not right.

People will always consider as bad everything that makes their account balance decrease, especially if final result does not satisfy them. Every service is bad, because people "dont understand why they pay so much money for". Every shop is bad because "how come that item cost so much?". Every entertainment is bad because "it could be more fun for amount paid". No matter what people do, others always find reason to blame and why it is bad.

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Quote from: shasan on August 19, 2024, 03:28:16 PM

There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.

Yep, with the right tools and self-control, the risks of things going south can be minimized.
However, you are right - it comes full circle through the gamblers to all people near them.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on August 28, 2024, 12:57:23 AM

Good and bad impacts of gambling will always depend on how each person responds and also has an approach to gambling, those who can be responsible and control themselves and continue to gamble without the ambition of making money can still be on the right track.
It just that we often find many gamblers who are addicted and they experience financial ruin or even their families because of the impact of gambling addiction, this is clearly the fault of the gambler himself, blaming gambling too much in cases like this I think is still not right.

It is always very sad to hear that families are destroyed because of uncontrolled gambling. Because in a family, a man should be a breadwinner, he should look for money to provide for the family, so that his wife and children are happy.
And if a man is not even a slacker, but also takes money and things out of the house, then this is terrible. Especially if there is a small child in the apartment, or even a child of a different age. After all, then they look to the father as an example, but he sets a bad example, and this has a bad effect on the children.

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Quote from: hahay on August 27, 2024, 02:26:21 PM

Quote from: shasan on August 19, 2024, 03:28:16 PM

There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.

I think, what makes it bad is because the gambler himself has a bad attitude, because with the bad results he gets in gambling until they do something negative. Thus, they say gambling is bad even though in reality the gambler himself is the one who makes gambling seen as bad, because it has a negative impact. But, if the gambler can control his emotions well then I am sure that the gambler and gambling will not be seen as bad when they have good control over themselves. With that reason, then at least I do not blame gambling entirely, because what makes it bad is those who have excessive emotions.

Well that true, gambling does have impacts and consequences that may cause someone to experience difficult problems in their life, but all of this will only happen to every gambler who cannot take care of themselves.
Good and bad impacts of gambling will always depend on how each person responds and also has an approach to gambling, those who can be responsible and control themselves and continue to gamble without the ambition of making money can still be on the right track.
It just that we often find many gamblers who are addicted and they experience financial ruin or even their families because of the impact of gambling addiction, this is clearly the fault of the gambler himself, blaming gambling too much in cases like this I think is still not right.

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