Pages:
Author

Topic: Is Gulden a good investment? - page 51. (Read 250149 times)

newbie
Activity: 72
Merit: 0
December 14, 2017, 08:28:16 AM
After using Gulden for a month now I can honestly say it's the most stable wallet I have used. The link feature is freaking fantastic and I like the fact you can split your funds into different accounts.

My analogy for Gulden is as follows:

When buying good quality speakers you would look at Yamahas, Klipsch, Bose etc. You know to get these quality speakers you going to pay a lot more then your standard commercial junk that uses excessive marketing even on the packaging. Boasting about features that were already standard more then 10 years ago in quality brands.

In crypto you have the opposite where poor quality and marketing is fetching higher prices. This is part and parcel of a new industry. As the industry matures and people are looking for real functionality will coins like Gulden start gaining more traction.

It's really in Guldens best interest to keep it low key and develop under the radar and when the spotlight comes people will experience the difference to create a lasting impression.

newbie
Activity: 64
Merit: 0
December 14, 2017, 06:41:54 AM
Tomorrow, -Friday the 15th-, the first 2 weeks of testing PoW2 including Secure 1-conf transactions, witnessing and segsig have passed.

Hopefully they will provide some feedback on results so far.

I expect to see 1000sat fall quickly when there is more proof testing is going well, especially from those investors that are still holding a lot of sub $1000 bitcoin. That is 2 million NLG, just over 0.5% of the entire supply which will be very cheap for some early btc adopters.
Depends who pulls the trigger first.

Investors will wait for the PoW reward to drop to 80 and then collect as many coins for witnessing as possible. +- 55000 new supply is coming on daily, much better when it's only 40 000 per day. Saving of 465 000 coins from miner dumps per month which will go to witnessing rewards.
member
Activity: 156
Merit: 10
December 14, 2017, 05:50:44 AM
Tomorrow, -Friday the 15th-, the first 2 weeks of testing PoW2 including Secure 1-conf transactions, witnessing and segsig have passed.

Hopefully they will provide some feedback on results so far.

I expect to see 1000sat fall quickly when there is more proof testing is going well, especially from those investors that are still holding a lot of sub $1000 bitcoin. That is 2 million NLG, just over 0.5% of the entire supply which will be very cheap for some early btc adopters.
Depends who pulls the trigger first.
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 504
December 14, 2017, 04:10:10 AM
Tomorrow, -Friday the 15th-, the first 2 weeks of testing PoW2 including Secure 1-conf transactions, witnessing and segsig have passed.

Hopefully they will provide some feedback on results so far.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
December 14, 2017, 02:37:03 AM
If you see the hash rate ... 88 Gh/s of today compare to the top 280 Gh/s in October , it seems that miner do not think like you. It's a huge drop. If you analyse just a little bit ... 88 Gh/s divide by 500 Mh/s (L3+) , you see that only 176 people on the world are mining gulden. It's like nothing. So it could be the best crypto coin in the world , in nobody want it .... you are done.

Do not forget to remove Kim-jong-Rijk and his friends from the 176 miners


Crypto has always been about soft power and consensus.

Rijk is a masturbatory manager who cares not for anything remotely resembling dissonance.

NLG is in my top three list of most underperforming coin last 12 months.

NLG is the worst coin for making quick greed money but they killing other coins with innovation. Thing is a lot of these ICOs and some coins went in with people that had a lot of btc to put into marketing and fake trades,volumes and price manipulation which works on the suckers thinking their is something special about those coins.
I can respect NLG team for not being fake and keeping it Real because if they did market what they have and coming in the next release it would be bringing the marketing to reality.
full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 112
December 13, 2017, 06:52:46 PM
Gulden is fine and a good coin for the future
If you don't like it don't buy it thats it!

Yes and water is wet.....

Please explane why the gulden did not profit with a higher price like all other alt coins.

Verge
Doge
Ripple

are higher the last month.

2017 wasn't good year for Gulden, it had to be raised more. I wouldn't invest Gulden anymore i think.. I am Dogecoin fan too. I am collecting DOGE since 2016. I have like 1 million pcs of them and still buying. I think it will be 0.01 soon..
newbie
Activity: 79
Merit: 0
December 13, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
Maybe one day you'll see the potential for this coin. I like the quote from Marsand:

The problem is that you associate gulden with profit...

Some are here for profit while others focus on other things.
member
Activity: 339
Merit: 10
New Cryptoworld Order
December 13, 2017, 05:17:16 PM
Do not forget to remove Kim-jong-Rijk and his friends from the 176 miners

Kim Jong Rijk  Shocked

Isn't that a bit harsh though?

to the Un guy I mean?  Grin
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101
December 13, 2017, 02:38:08 PM
If you see the hash rate ... 88 Gh/s of today compare to the top 280 Gh/s in October , it seems that miner do not think like you. It's a huge drop. If you analyse just a little bit ... 88 Gh/s divide by 500 Mh/s (L3+) , you see that only 176 people on the world are mining gulden. It's like nothing. So it could be the best crypto coin in the world , in nobody want it .... you are done.

Do not forget to remove Kim-jong-Rijk and his friends from the 176 miners


Crypto has always been about soft power and consensus.

Rijk is a masturbatory manager who cares not for anything remotely resembling dissonance.

NLG is in my top three list of most underperforming coin last 12 months.
jr. member
Activity: 152
Merit: 2
December 13, 2017, 12:22:18 PM
Gulden is fine and a good coin for the future
If you don't like it don't buy it thats it!

Yes and water is wet.....

Please explane why the gulden did not profit with a higher price like all other alt coins.

Verge
Doge
Ripple

are higher the last month.

probably bcoz it is not good coin enough for you  Grin

BTW ,for me it is the best coin out there ....
.... Smiley

If you see the hash rate ... 88 Gh/s of today compare to the top 280 Gh/s in October , it seems that miner do not think like you. It's a huge drop. If you analyse just a little bit ... 88 Gh/s divide by 500 Mh/s (L3+) , you see that only 176 people on the world are mining gulden. It's like nothing. So it could be the best crypto coin in the world , in nobody want it .... you are done.

Do not forget to remove Kim-jong-Rijk and his friends from the 176 miners
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
December 13, 2017, 10:52:34 AM

Please explane why the gulden did not profit with a higher price like all other alt coins.


The problem is that you associate gulden with profit...
member
Activity: 83
Merit: 10
December 13, 2017, 09:43:14 AM
Gulden is fine and a good coin for the future
If you don't like it don't buy it thats it!

Yes and water is wet.....

Please explane why the gulden did not profit with a higher price like all other alt coins.

Verge
Doge
Ripple

are higher the last month.

probably bcoz it is not good coin enough for you  Grin

BTW ,for me it is the best coin out there ....
.... Smiley
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
December 13, 2017, 08:49:42 AM
Gulden is fine and a good coin for the future
If you don't like it don't buy it thats it!

Yes and water is wet.....

Please explane why the gulden did not profit with a higher price like all other alt coins.

Verge
Doge
Ripple

are higher the last month.
member
Activity: 183
Merit: 11
December 13, 2017, 06:17:44 AM
Gulden is fine and a good coin for the future
If you don't like it don't buy it thats it!
member
Activity: 294
Merit: 10
December 13, 2017, 03:37:40 AM
Or do we not know anything about the possible amount raised so far in presale or regular sales? can anyone help me to study in observing presale tokens for trading? I hope I can take knowledge from your next explanation
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
December 12, 2017, 11:50:59 PM
most of the alt coins are going green and yet gulden is still red red red...
and im stuck still holding unto it.  Undecided Undecided Undecided
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
December 12, 2017, 11:30:05 PM
The answer from the developer is missing here:

To clear up the above before anyone gets confused. There are lots of different kinds of "open source" and different ideas about what "open source" should mean and they are not all compatible with one another.
For every "open source" project there is a license that dictates what is and is not okay to do with the product, if you care about such things you should read the license and not just assume that open source means "anyone can copy".

Gulden is not "open source" if you go by the strict OSI definition https://opensource.org/osd

Gulden is open source for the definition of open source we consider important:
* Anyone can view/inspect our source code
* Anyone can compile our code
* Anyone can modify our code for personal use so long as they don't give it to anyone and/or as long as it is not modified to work on a different blockchain.
* Anyone can  submit patches to our code etc.

This explicitly does not include copying/modifying the software for the purposes of using it on a blockchain that is not the Gulden one, or distributing it to other people etc. without the express permission of the Gulden developers.

So to answer the original question:

1) They would be in legal violation of the licensing.
2) The amount of work being done here is far beyond the scope of something a "copy and paste" developer could copy/paste into another existing project successfully. The average copy/paste project differs from bitcoin by only a few hundred lines of code, there are dozens of documents explaining how to make such a project, and even then the 'copy/paste developers' of these projects tend to struggle and make obvious mistakes, Gulden differs by around 40k lines of code at this point and growing, much of this code is of high complexity and easy to mess up, there are no instructions on how to copy this code...
3) This is a lot of work, it is much easier for such projects to just make up fake features like they already do - so I imagine they would prefer to do that.
4) Even ignoring the above we would have first mover advantage and all that they would achieve is to draw attention to us as the original developers, meanwhile we will already be developing the next thing.

In short; I don't really think it is a legitimate concern, but even if it were, so what? Should we just throw our arms up in the air and give up? The way I see it there is only one thing to do, keep going forward...

I don't know why this developer didn't create 10 scam coins instead of 1 legit one. He would of make a lot more money for himself and everyone else who invested in those scams.Add marketing and a scam coin with 1 unique feature that Gulden has and it would of had far more success.

I don't know what it is with this generation but they would rather invest in projects that do a lot of faking then a project like this.

Gulden is the worst investment I have made financially but it is the best investment I have made on a coin that is driving innovation.

I guess the world is just a fucked up place right now.
newbie
Activity: 79
Merit: 0
December 12, 2017, 05:23:01 PM
This year they started at $0.025828 and right now it about $0.093968. Maybe not your avarage quick win, but I'm sure BitCoin has been sitting just there for years too. Sure, it was new and a method of buying on the dark web which helped its popularity. For Gulden I see a good future since it already has actual user, this time in the legit world.
member
Activity: 339
Merit: 10
New Cryptoworld Order
December 12, 2017, 04:57:05 PM
The answer from the developer is missing here:

To clear up the above before anyone gets confused. There are lots of different kinds of "open source" and different ideas about what "open source" should mean and they are not all compatible with one another.
For every "open source" project there is a license that dictates what is and is not okay to do with the product, if you care about such things you should read the license and not just assume that open source means "anyone can copy".

Gulden is not "open source" if you go by the strict OSI definition https://opensource.org/osd

Gulden is open source for the definition of open source we consider important:
* Anyone can view/inspect our source code
* Anyone can compile our code
* Anyone can modify our code for personal use so long as they don't give it to anyone and/or as long as it is not modified to work on a different blockchain.
* Anyone can  submit patches to our code etc.

This explicitly does not include copying/modifying the software for the purposes of using it on a blockchain that is not the Gulden one, or distributing it to other people etc. without the express permission of the Gulden developers.

So to answer the original question:

1) They would be in legal violation of the licensing.
2) The amount of work being done here is far beyond the scope of something a "copy and paste" developer could copy/paste into another existing project successfully. The average copy/paste project differs from bitcoin by only a few hundred lines of code, there are dozens of documents explaining how to make such a project, and even then the 'copy/paste developers' of these projects tend to struggle and make obvious mistakes, Gulden differs by around 40k lines of code at this point and growing, much of this code is of high complexity and easy to mess up, there are no instructions on how to copy this code...
3) This is a lot of work, it is much easier for such projects to just make up fake features like they already do - so I imagine they would prefer to do that.
4) Even ignoring the above we would have first mover advantage and all that they would achieve is to draw attention to us as the original developers, meanwhile we will already be developing the next thing.

In short; I don't really think it is a legitimate concern, but even if it were, so what? Should we just throw our arms up in the air and give up? The way I see it there is only one thing to do, keep going forward...

Trouble is, even if you think you're on the right track, you will get run over by a train if you just sit there! And that's exactly what Gulden has been doing over the last year, staying steady at the same $ price, while bitcoin went x 18! So you might say the Bitcoin train ran you over multiple times already!
newbie
Activity: 79
Merit: 0
December 12, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
The answer from the developer is missing here:

To clear up the above before anyone gets confused. There are lots of different kinds of "open source" and different ideas about what "open source" should mean and they are not all compatible with one another.
For every "open source" project there is a license that dictates what is and is not okay to do with the product, if you care about such things you should read the license and not just assume that open source means "anyone can copy".

Gulden is not "open source" if you go by the strict OSI definition https://opensource.org/osd

Gulden is open source for the definition of open source we consider important:
* Anyone can view/inspect our source code
* Anyone can compile our code
* Anyone can modify our code for personal use so long as they don't give it to anyone and/or as long as it is not modified to work on a different blockchain.
* Anyone can  submit patches to our code etc.

This explicitly does not include copying/modifying the software for the purposes of using it on a blockchain that is not the Gulden one, or distributing it to other people etc. without the express permission of the Gulden developers.

So to answer the original question:

1) They would be in legal violation of the licensing.
2) The amount of work being done here is far beyond the scope of something a "copy and paste" developer could copy/paste into another existing project successfully. The average copy/paste project differs from bitcoin by only a few hundred lines of code, there are dozens of documents explaining how to make such a project, and even then the 'copy/paste developers' of these projects tend to struggle and make obvious mistakes, Gulden differs by around 40k lines of code at this point and growing, much of this code is of high complexity and easy to mess up, there are no instructions on how to copy this code...
3) This is a lot of work, it is much easier for such projects to just make up fake features like they already do - so I imagine they would prefer to do that.
4) Even ignoring the above we would have first mover advantage and all that they would achieve is to draw attention to us as the original developers, meanwhile we will already be developing the next thing.

In short; I don't really think it is a legitimate concern, but even if it were, so what? Should we just throw our arms up in the air and give up? The way I see it there is only one thing to do, keep going forward...
Pages:
Jump to: