Topic: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? - page 53. (Read 234761 times)

Asking if Hillary is trustworthy is like asking if her shit smells like roses. Loaded question.

Well, I doubt that this Assad guy is an angel with wings but I think he has both the right and duty to keep up order in his country. If you can point out Syria on a globe you probably know that next door is Iraq. Could it be that the mess that nutcases made in Iraq spilled over to Syria? And if so would that have created security problems in Syria? I mean, effect follows cause. It isn´t just some random series of events. And usually human rights and amnesty aren´t very high priorities when dealing with al-Queda and other terrorists. U.S. officials had no problem at all with Assad when they were shipping terror suspects to Syria for interrogation and torture. He became a bad guy virtually overnight after he had the audacity to sign a gas pipeline deal to the Mediterranean with Iran. Before then Joe Sixpacks all over the U.S. didn´t have the slightest reason to give a flying eff about Syria because nobody told them to.

I'm the opposite of that. I don't want the war machine to keep rolling. I wish my country would not play world police. It's simply not our battle to fight. That doesn't mean I want to watch a foreign country rot from the inside and have their citizens killed like animals. The government here just likes to use the bleeding hearts of our population as a means to fulfill their own greedy controlling ends. It's up to the people of the nation in conflict to change the state of affairs. That doesn't imply it's fair for the people suffering in conflict filled nations to have to fight against their own governments, it's just a fact of life.

Some of the sources I'm referencing are such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. If someone refuses to believe information from any source, regardles or credibility, then where might I ask are they getting their information from?

I was ranting with Americans while nutcases were preparing the Iraq war. I thought it was a terrible idea that would end in disaster with fucking lunatics like Bush and Blair in charge. It was self-evident to most of the world, Much of the coalition of the willing consisted of Pacific atolls and other micro states to get up the number so it wouldn´t look too embarrassing.

Well, actually I think that what you believe are "reputable sources" is the same garbage that has been selling  one war scam after the other. Nutcases got rid of Saddam Hussein. Take a look at the results. Nutcases got rid of Ghadafi. Yep, the same familiar pattern, terrorists thrive in the ruins like in Iraq. Nutcases have been trying to get rid of Assad. Strike three.

Hillary is trustworthy. All you need to do is to figure out her direction - gun control - and you can rely on her doing her damnedest to follow her direction. Trustworthy.

I will not argue against the propaganda machine being strong here in the US. That's not the root of the problem with America though. The problem as stated before is the lack of desire for the average American to actually learn. We've become an incredibly distracted society.

You're telling me you can't Google "syrian human rights under bashar assad" and get reasonable results from reputable sources? Seeing some pictures of smiling children is still a micro response to a macro problem. Yeah I'm not saying people are/were running the streets like barbarian animals. I'm talking about issues such as freedom of speech and how critics of the government are treated. Or LGBT rights. Or the rights of women. Or true freedom of religion.

I'm assuming you're going to draw parallels to the US in my examples. As an American I'm not at all satisfied with the state of this country. Though if you're going to compare the level of human rights in Syria to that of the US, you're going to need to put your tin foil hat on first.

It seems to me that you may just have a hatred for Americans and the "image" of the US. I'm not concerned about Russia, or any country for that matter. I'm concerned about the crazy fucks running the show in most of them. Part of the problem in the United States is that the current culture, especially my generation has 0 fucks to give about the state of the world. They're more interested in trash mass produced music and buying stylish clothing than actually getting an education and being informed about the state of this planet. I would bet 9 out of 10 people I would stop in the street couldn't even point out Syria on a map.

Balthazar, I´m fairly certain that millions of Americans think that the Evil Empire, the big bad soviets and commies are still there. It was more often than not simply referred to as Russia and The Russians back then anyway. The Russians are coming, et cetera.

I remember a poll or study from the year 2000. Millions of Americans really thought that the George Bush running for president was his daddy, the #41 Prez. Which they liked a lot, him being Ronnie Reagan´s bosom buddy and all. One of the mysterious reasons that out in space gling glong Dubya got into the White House.

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Free and democratic regime, established by Baghdadi and other members of democratic opposition:

https://twitter.com/abunyasha/status/672494083940683776

Seems nice, people should receive proper training from the childhood.

Totalitarian regime under "dictatorial fucker":

https://twitter.com/syriasonline/status/540329551767695360

What a shame  

P.S. Forgot a sarcasm tag

US reminds me USSR in its worst days. Looks like US propaganda machine is even worse that that of USSR under Stalin's regime. Today, US seems more like a giant version of North Korea. Which is full of ignorant motherfuckers, who truly believe that anti-vax and ufology movements are indicating their political freedom.

Well, maybe you can produce a so called argument out of your opinion about the guy. I mean, opinions are a dime a six dozen there´s constant oversupply of them.

Really? I thought it was pretty accurate stuff. Descriptive enough. Not much there to prove the statement otherwise.

Well, it´s extremely difficult to top meaningful input like He's just another greedy, crummy, dictatorial fucker but at least I tried.

They're flocking to the government controlled territory or out of the country entirely so they don't get raped and murdered in their own homes.. Not because it was a land of sunshine and rainbows before this war started. Why would it be any better afterwards? I wouldn't say its out of actual support for Assad. Syria isn't the absolute worst, but it's pretty damn far from being the best country in terms of human rights advancement and standard of living. Would you want to live there under the current government even in a time of peace?



Thanks for the valuable input galdur. charming stuff.

Nice try Balthazar but the people you´re trying to educate depend on experts with 30-second analysis of very complex issues. Between commercials. They probably think that analysis is just another medication that they stick up their butts.

Good old soviet propaganda from Washington Obkom. Yeah, and that "dictatorial fucker" is supported by the most of population, more than 80% of people have migrated to the government-controlled areas.

By the way, speaking about support and legitimacy... If you don't remember, sunni and alawites are mutually hostille, they've spent centuries while killing each other. And, what a surprise, Assad is alawite... While half of his government and 3/4 of his military are sunni muslims. This says a lot, don't you think so? Maybe it's time to turn your TV off and begin to analyze the facts?

I guess this wasn't reported in the western media, but his main goal is to expel the invaders, restore a sovereignty and then perform a referendum on new constitution, since it's impossible to do this during a war time. After that he's ready to leave his position.

Nobody think she's trustworthy but she's way better than that clown Trump. Seriously, that's the last thing we want, a Republican president. We don't want to see any more wars in the world.

I'm not saying I want a global tragedy to happen, I'd prefer to live my life in peace mining BTC  

I'm suggesting the only thing that is going to knock the shit train off course would be a disaster of that magnitude. Mankind needs a good ol' humbling. Too much greed/control/hatred/*religious extremism* is afoot. We need to step back and realize how convoluted the systems that control the day-to-day world are. In addition, we need to slow down on the baby making as a species.

Also, old Assad doesn't have the arsenal to create the necessary disaster. He's just another greedy, crummy, dictatorial fucker who is trying to satiate himself any way he can until he dies of natural causes or someone plugs him in the head.

I think Hilary Clinton is not that trustworthy.

She sometimes does come across as quite weak and does sound like a politician with not much of a backbone. She is probably going to win the next presidential election, so it looks like America will be in much deeper problems.