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Quote from: nurilham on October 07, 2022, 06:50:53 PM

Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

Which gamers do you refer to? Online gamers?
Of course, it will be easy for online gamers to adapt to casino/gambling games because those are online games as well.
But if we consider the motivation or mindset of gambling games, it is a bit different. A gamer cannot think to play casino/gambling games as often as possible because it requires money. It is not the same as free online games, we should have good time management and money management for casino/gambling games.

A gamer usually has a good idea about gaming. If he continues the process of online gaming then ‍at any of the moment he may be transmitted to gambling. Because game and gambling are two clauses word. In a sense, the word gambling originates from games. It is true that if the gamer makes a positive impression on gambling then it will be transmitted to gambling in the future. Because now gambling is very easy in everywhere.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

Which gamers do you refer to? Online gamers?
Of course, it will be easy for online gamers to adapt to casino/gambling games because those are online games as well.
But if we consider the motivation or mindset of gambling games, it is a bit different. A gamer cannot think to play casino/gambling games as often as possible because it requires money. It is not the same as free online games, we should have good time management and money management for casino/gambling games.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

when we play and we have money in the game, we take all the money that is in the game to put it on our favorite character, but we do that because that is money that doesn't come out of the game, that's why it doesn't hurt to spend all of it on the character, if that was money that comes out of the game and allows you to spend it in the real world then people wouldn't spend much on the character

Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

normal games and gambling are very different, in gambling people lose money, in gambling people who spend the whole day playing games, so that person is so poor that he sells everything he has, while normal games person can even spend the whole day playing without problems, by which I mean that in gambling the person must have another mentality

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Quote from: seleme on October 07, 2022, 04:59:13 PM

They have different mentalities but similarities can be found if you look closer. Gamblers gamble for profit while having fun but gamers just try their best to enjoy the game process to get rewarded with higher achievements on level-up. Finding the differences is easy, addicted gamblers are dangerous but I can't say the same thing for addicted gamers who spend their time mostly playing the same game for hours. Gambler leaves the table when he runs out of money/bankroll but they come back to chase losses, gamers can restart the game whenever they want.

Here when the gamers keep on achieving, at some point they feel of why don't we try playing with money. Here some turns successful and the rest losses. This happens with most gamers, because they've enjoyed the achievement and beyond that what they can do is to spend and look for a win out of their ability.

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In my opinion, it will be very easy in fact too easy to transition. This is because the mechanism of incentivization. In addition, there's a thin line between gaming and gambling. For example, gaming is addicting just like gambling because in most games, you are rewarded for your victories with items that can be traded for real money, but in order to increase your chances, you buy in-game items. Isn't this almost the same elements in gambling?

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They have different mentalities but similarities can be found if you look closer. Gamblers gamble for profit while having fun but gamers just try their best to enjoy the game process to get rewarded with higher achievements on level-up. Finding the differences is easy, addicted gamblers are dangerous but I can't say the same thing for addicted gamers who spend their time mostly playing the same game for hours. Gambler leaves the table when he runs out of money/bankroll but they come back to chase losses, gamers can restart the game whenever they want.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

I think its more on additional mindsets, like the hardest thing here is chasing your losses which is very tempting to do when you win a huge amount and then suddenly you've lost it, especially for new players, other elements are just the same like getting or creating an account, not resorting to cheating and understanding the games by just looking at it as some games on casinos are already on gaming, compared to gaming the risk is double and you are under very strict rules, so gamers should be aware of the rules of casinos because there's a lot of difference in their terms.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

While it is true many games today have aspects which are very close to what we call gambling I do not see how anyone will have any problem making a transition to gambling games, gambling games are very simple and you can learn the rules in a matter of minutes and the optimal way to play in a few days at most, also most games while they have some slight variations they are so small that most people never put any attention to them, so if you are a gamer and you want to try to gamble then I do not see how you could have any problems adapting yourself to it.

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Quote from: goinmerry on October 06, 2022, 06:24:32 PM

Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

I'm a heavy gamer and also a gambler at the same time. I don't think that "transition " is the right word since gaming and gambling have a different environment even at the bottom line, we are spending money on those.

You don't need to have any movitation to do gambling coming from being a gamer. It depends on our interest.

Don't make that too technical.

Exactly, Gamer games are not the same as what you play on casino games or gambling games. Most or All of the games played on a casino are luck-based games such as Dice and Slot Games unlike what we mostly play as a Gamer which requires logic, strategy and accumulation of stats to get better.

There's no need to compare normal games to what those on the casino as those are entirely different.

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Quote from: Hispo on October 07, 2022, 03:14:19 PM

This translates that not all gamers will be so easily introduced to gambling, those more used to Call of Duty, MMORPGs, Gacha, Counter Strike, etc would.

Real gamers will please themself by just playing games without thinking if they will earn money or not. But those who wanted to earn some money will absolutely do gambling, not to say it was hard for the transitions but of course, it takes time as well for some adjustment knowing that gambling is a different environment than just playing games where there is no money involved in normal games that mostly played as you have mentioned.

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It also depends much on the kind of games and genre the person plays the most. These last years the retro and arcade genre has increased significantly in popularity, I am talking about games and platforms which do not the require the player to invest anything beyond the purchase of the game itself and the console.

In this matter, Nintendo has a wide playerbase many exclusive games which do not have microtransactions implemented on the most of these.

This translates that not all gamers will be so easily introduced to gambling, those more used to Call of Duty, MMORPGs, Gacha, Counter Strike, etc would.

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Quote from: passwordnow on October 04, 2022, 06:29:22 PM

It's easy, you don't have to start all over it. Being a gamer, you understand logic already that you can see in the casinos, so, don't stop yourself if you want to try to gamble, just do it.
There's no difference of motivation and mindset from being a gamer and a gambler, all you have to think is the same and that's to become stronger and for you to win, none other than that.

Yes, it’s quite easier for a gamer to turn into a gambler as the skills are already there and developed. Unlike those who decide to be a gambler without even expertise on different games, that would be more risky for sure. However, once a gamer becomes a gambler, then he should learn to manage more of his funds and only gamble the amount that is allocated for gambling and not for other means. That way, losses will always be controlled and would not resort into gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on October 07, 2022, 11:24:48 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on October 05, 2022, 01:58:25 AM

I don't agree that gaming and gambling are similar. Gaming may have some gambling-like situations but eventually its nearly completely about problem solving. Gambling on other other hand is more like you already has multiple answers to a problem but you are trying to pick best one to reach best outcome. Gamers can indeed turn into gamblers but it takes bit of different type of skills to develop.

In gaming, people got obligated because they want to have more improved items in the game and have cool skins and sets some of the games have perks to have and at the end of the day they can sell it again, but in terms of gambling it is all or nothing risk there's no possible return might happen instead just have the 50/50 chance that you will win the game or bet you make or lose all the assets you invested in just to play that's why it is good to make a gambling management and set an amount and strategy when playing.

Yeah. Gambling is more on money satisfaction while gaming is just for pure entertainment and enjoyment by spending money on it without any expectations for a possible profit. This is the thin line separating gaming to gambling since this activity has different goal and each players of this activity has different intention when they play both gaming and gambling.

I’m both gamer and gambler. I spend a lot on my character account to show it off to my friends which satisfied me while I’m only gambling because I want to have another source of fun by increasing my money on risking it on gambling games.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

I think it is definitely easier for a gamer to succumb to gambling due to the nature of gaming itself.

Nowadays, tons of online games have introduced different payment schemes for the gaming company. Some games have "loot boxes" where you get the chance of a specific and overpowered item at a given rate. With this in mind, a gamer would most likely spend money getting that >1% item drop with cash cash as the main currency for it. With this in mind, gamers are technically gambling but behind a smokescreen of gaming.

That is why, I definitely believe that a gamer has all the chances of becoming a gambler.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on October 05, 2022, 01:58:25 AM

I don't agree that gaming and gambling are similar. Gaming may have some gambling-like situations but eventually its nearly completely about problem solving. Gambling on other other hand is more like you already has multiple answers to a problem but you are trying to pick best one to reach best outcome. Gamers can indeed turn into gamblers but it takes bit of different type of skills to develop.

In gaming, people got obligated because they want to have more improved items in the game and have cool skins and sets some of the games have perks to have and at the end of the day they can sell it again, but in terms of gambling it is all or nothing risk there's no possible return might happen instead just have the 50/50 chance that you will win the game or bet you make or lose all the assets you invested in just to play that's why it is good to make a gambling management and set an amount and strategy when playing.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

I'm a heavy gamer and also a gambler at the same time. I don't think that "transition " is the right word since gaming and gambling have a different environments even at the bottom line, we are spending money on those.

You don't need to have any movitation to do gambling coming from being a gamer. It depends on our interest.

Don't make that too technical.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

I rather consider the opposite, gambling as part of gaming industry. Since no one can be involved in gambling if it doesn't involved gaming, besides gambling is already defined as a game of chance. Grin

Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

It always feels good to satisfy our curiosity. So basically, gamers who is curious about gambling can easily transition to a gambling habit. Besides most of the games have these so-called Loot boxes or Gacha which resemble gambling activity. so it isn't a piece of news for them if they wanted to transition to gambling games. Gamers don't have to start all over again because gamers are already used to gaming and risks.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 04, 2022, 06:02:02 PM

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

When it comes to technicality, I believe gamers can easily understand gambling by just reading the instructions and beside gambling games is not that hard compare to what they are playing already. If you are a gamer you only need to focus with your motivation and mindset since gambling is a whole different environment and it involves a lot of money which can be a problem later on if you gamble carelessly. I know some gamer that are doing good with gambling right now, it make a lot of practice and analysis before you can be good in gambling though.

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I would say that a transition from gamer to gambler is not hard since games are a bit similar to gambling which you spend money for a chance to win cool skins, items or whatever it is that you will buy for your character. Some may say that a gamer may be much greedy than gambler but I don't think that's entirely correct. I am a gamer and also a gambler but I didn't spend too much money just for gambling and the amount I would spend didn't even reach $500 even $400.

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Not every games have got the elements to turn a gamer to a gambler. Games like Rummy, which is popular in specific countries have got the elements of making a gamer to try it with money. In my country we've got a big number of Rummy game providers and applications that supports player2player gaming access. Initially playing for fun makes them give a try and ends up losing/winning.

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