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Quote from: jrrsparkles on August 21, 2022, 07:13:50 AM

Obviously it is happening for the money, that is why the organizers always pick the best rivalries or popular people so they can sell out completely and also get more money from the sponsors and you know the fighters also getting paid in millions so just like any business this uses the human excitement to make money.

I don't like to bet my money against this type of sport, they are sometimes just based on entertainment and the final say from the anonymous decision makers, they know how to play their cards and know who to favour in most of the matches, this is something you cannot do in football because you can't manipulate 11 players on the field or tell the strikers and wingers not to do their job but boxers are just different. Kamaru Usman and Anthony Joshua's last match came to my mind, who would have thought Kamaru would fall down helplessly like that and most people thought AJ will do anything to retain his champions belt.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 21, 2022, 04:32:12 PM

Most likely, the promoters of this kind of game is just taking advantage while they are hot and popular, and while the people still favor and support them on their shows.

And if these promoters saw that these kinds of matches were not being patronized by most people, surely they will stop organizing fights like that.

Just continue to ignore those non-sense matches in order for these promoters to just spend money without getting the revenue they are expecting.

I'm not a fan of these boxing exhibition matches unless it was between "BIG NAMES" and the reason is for charity purposes or any helpful act on the community. It's good to support those kinds of boxing matches instead of just for entertainment and involved fighters are not really into that sport.

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Quote from: Fortify on August 21, 2022, 03:18:30 PM

At that level of fighting, it's all about the money, but obviously they train very hard still and want to win - because that gains them access to future fights and the winner takes a larger amount of earnings home.

judging on their fight, I doubt they actually train hard. no offence to them but watching the fight is cringe-worthy, none of the two knows how to properly punch or how to defend. if they want to get future fights and actually entertain people with proper boxing they'd need to train and learn more about boxing.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Everybody here has seen the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match against The Kazakh Titan Djumanov Almat Bakhytovich, these two are fierce rivals as internet sensations for having huge bodies like incredible hulk they finally settle their differences in the ring but unfortunately it's not the kind of fight that we want to see because it's too one-sided and it did not live through the hype

Obviously, the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match signed to this fight unprepared and with zero boxing skills, even an amateur boxer can beat this guy with Hulkster, watching this fight made me think that promoters are just exploiting their popularity and these so-called internet sensations just want to have a quick buck.

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

This is something we have seen many times before, there have been many cases of bodybuilders facing against boxers and the results were what you could expect, which was an utter and complete trashing of the bodybuilder by the boxer, this shows that boxing is not only about your physical capabilities but about your technique and your intelligence to lead the fight to a path that is beneficial to you, however you do not have to worry too much about this as sooner or later people will get bored and stop watching those fights.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Is there something we can actually do to prevent that kind of match? It's easy for organizers to make such fights since it's not prohibited in the first place. Even those professional players in that specific sport can't prevent that kind of match from happening even if they will voice out their concern that they are against at those exhibition games where it involves a personality that's not even a real player of that sport.

Simply, if we are again at this, we can take action by not supporting that match or just ignoring it.

But since many people are patronizing that event, then no choice but to keep our disappointment from ourselves.

This kind of match is definitely more on fun or entertainment, and those who support it do not question it since they also love to see these internet sensations in the ring. Most likely, the promoters of this kind of game is just taking advantage while they are hot and popular, and while the people still favor and support them on their shows.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Everybody here has seen the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match against The Kazakh Titan Djumanov Almat Bakhytovich, these two are fierce rivals as internet sensations for having huge bodies like incredible hulk they finally settle their differences in the ring but unfortunately it's not the kind of fight that we want to see because it's too one-sided and it did not live through the hype

Obviously, the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match signed to this fight unprepared and with zero boxing skills, even an amateur boxer can beat this guy with Hulkster, watching this fight made me think that promoters are just exploiting their popularity and these so-called internet sensations just want to have a quick buck.

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

At that level of fighting, it's all about the money, but obviously they train very hard still and want to win - because that gains them access to future fights and the winner takes a larger amount of earnings home. I don't know much about Sajad Gharibi but surely somebody nicknamed "The Hulk" has a lot of strength which is a pretty important attribute for a boxer to begin. Places like Saudi Arabia are throwing out a lot of money in order to attract these fights, and while I doubt they'll be hosting an Iranian, it just goes to show that they are highly popular entertainment and draw in large crowds. If this Iranian is going in fully aware of the skill discrepancy, then there should be nothing stopping it.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 21, 2022, 02:16:56 PM

The entertainment industry just aims to use your emotions and feelings against you to make some money. With what they're doing here, it's no different than trying to sell you a new soap opera or a new movie. They're trying to milk the hype that is created by the names they put on the bout, and when the time of the match comes, they can't give us a proper match that is actually satisfying to watch.

The sports industry is a business after all. It wouldn't be established if they don't think of gains. Exhibition fights are created to get money out of the audience by giving them a chance to see rare matches that is impossible to see in Professional Match. The more popular person participating in this exhibition fights, the bigger or greater the amount the institution can collect. And I don't see this kind of stuff as annoying, since sports are there to entertain viewers. As long as the viewers are entertained, or get the value of every penny they spend on that game, I do not think it is that bad. Besides, it is a given fact that matches are there to get profit for the organizer so it doesn't make a difference if the participant or the fight is scripted as long as it gives entertainment to the viewers.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

Does the fight drew lots of attention in the public to the point that its profits reached sky high? I think so; but
Does the fight go against the spirit of boxing where two boxers would fight and the winner would be decided based on their individual skills and techniques? Arguably yes.

Unfortunately, the entertainment industry focuses too much on drawing attention from the public in order to gain and earn a quick buck. Since the public also saw the match entertaining, they spent their money watching, even if the match is somehow one-sided.

The entertainment industry just aims to use your emotions and feelings against you to make some money. With what they're doing here, it's no different than trying to sell you a new soap opera or a new movie. They're trying to milk the hype that is created by the names they put on the bout, and when the time of the match comes, they can't give us a proper match that is actually satisfying to watch.

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Quote from: Eternad on August 03, 2022, 02:23:05 AM

This is just like a sparring for the professional to beat amateurs televised.

That is what it is, it is meant for the spectators delight on something to relax with but my thinking is with this we might have begun to see same kind of showbiz going on in wrestling matches too where you don't understand when a fight is real or not. Boxing seem to be more real and taken seriously. If promoters are going to come with that they should clearly state the purpose and not to leave the public to wonder.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on August 21, 2022, 07:13:50 AM

Obviously it is happening for the money, that is why the organizers always pick the best rivalries or popular people so they can sell out completely and also get more money from the sponsors and you know the fighters also getting paid in millions so just like any business this uses the human excitement to make money.

It's a big black eye for the organizer, they expect a fair fight because both the rival made them believe that they can take their rivalry inside the ring, sometimes these organizers check if these rivals on the internet can carry it in the boxing ring, they should have preferred a competition that suited to each other like weightlifting, or who is the stronger man, not everyone is built to box, The Iranian Hulk is not cut to be a boxer.

Boxer and fighter can be different but when it comes to special events the only concentration will be on how popular the event will become and how much money they can earn from the fight and importantly we can't deny when the person himself accept the terms and getting paid for it so the ultimate aim is money and for the people they want their man to fight with another popular so that is the main selling point.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 21, 2022, 08:07:25 AM

It is very clear that most of these exhibition fights are just hosted to ride the hype and to make loads of money. It is fake and most of the fights are rigged, so the outcome are pre-determined. They also arrange for a re-match and then you will find that the challenger will win that fight, so that they can cash in on a 3rd fight. Roll Eyes

So, no thank you..... the TikTokers should stay with what they are doing... and leave the professionals to do their thing. I am kinda sick of all the "fake" stuff in this world. Roll Eyes

Unfortunately, as much as we know that these exhibition matches are fake and rigged but they also provide a lot of viewers to watch the match. They might not be professional but they provide chance for amateurs and professionals a lot of audience which will also receive more pay.

Exhibition matches are not really about the match and fight but to provide audience, and opportunities to other fighters. Also, they bring some entertainment and satisfy their viewers as most of them wanted to see the match.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

Does the fight drew lots of attention in the public to the point that its profits reached sky high? I think so; but
Does the fight go against the spirit of boxing where two boxers would fight and the winner would be decided based on their individual skills and techniques? Arguably yes.

Unfortunately, the entertainment industry focuses too much on drawing attention from the public in order to gain and earn a quick buck. Since the public also saw the match entertaining, they spent their money watching, even if the match is somehow one-sided.

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It is very clear that most of these exhibition fights are just hosted to ride the hype and to make loads of money. It is fake and most of the fights are rigged, so the outcome are pre-determined. They also arrange for a re-match and then you will find that the challenger will win that fight, so that they can cash in on a 3rd fight. Roll Eyes

So, no thank you..... the TikTokers should stay with what they are doing... and leave the professionals to do their thing. I am kinda sick of all the "fake" stuff in this world. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on August 21, 2022, 07:13:50 AM

Obviously it is happening for the money, that is why the organizers always pick the best rivalries or popular people so they can sell out completely and also get more money from the sponsors and you know the fighters also getting paid in millions so just like any business this uses the human excitement to make money.

It's a big black eye for the organizer, they expect a fair fight because both the rival made them believe that they can take their rivalry inside the ring, sometimes these organizers check if these rivals on the internet can carry it in the boxing ring, they should have preferred a competition that suited to each other like weightlifting, or who is the stronger man, not everyone is built to box, The Iranian Hulk is not cut to be a boxer.

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Obviously it is happening for the money, that is why the organizers always pick the best rivalries or popular people so they can sell out completely and also get more money from the sponsors and you know the fighters also getting paid in millions so just like any business this uses the human excitement to make money.

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Quote from: Adbitco on August 21, 2022, 04:14:20 AM

Do we say the Iranian Hulk went to the ring unprepared and might be an exploitation if not so how would he go into boxing ring without being able to showcase his skills or wanting not to win. Maybe a huge fans or supporters has paid for him to lose the fight. I don't see how Kazakh Titan Djumanov is in a way Iranian Hulk can't even defend himself in a fight.
This can't be for the just a Sport because it is clearly for Money others would probably welcome it as an entertainment purposes, yes its but can't just be in normal circumstances.

Either way, it's a big disappointment to those watching it even the sportscaster cannot define this as entertainment, you don't want to see somebody going up in the ring running and turning his back to his opponent giving the punch when his opponent is already away from him, this is a clumsy fight, you'll be entertained to watch a circus than a fight like this that did not live up to its hype, the social media is really good creating a hype but this is one hype that failed to excite spectators.

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Do we say the Iranian Hulk went to the ring unprepared and might be an exploitation if not so how would he go into boxing ring without being able to showcase his skills or wanting not to win. Maybe a huge fans or supporters has paid for him to lose the fight. I don't see how Kazakh Titan Djumanov is in a way Iranian Hulk can't even defend himself in a fight.
This can't be for the just a Sport because it is clearly for Money others would probably welcome it as an entertainment purposes, yes its but can't just be in normal circumstances.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

I don't agree with this kind of fight, It is so clear that the promoter is just taking advantage of the popularity of the two fighter just to grab money from the target audience. Even if it is labeled as exhibition match, I don't see any exhibit in the fight since the other fighter is too noob to fight while the other fighter is well accustomed to the fight.

Nowadays this has become a trend. Popular person even without any professional experience or any form of qualification can get into exhibition matches. This is all for money, and this can ruin the sports at some point. There is a big follower base and the same is being used. During the childhood I used to watch WWE and gets mesmerized. Later understood those are all just tricks. Same as that these are kind of fooling the audience and making money.

Money is easier that way since a famous person is doing the unthinkable match, everyone would be interested. If this kind of fight became a norm especialy in boxing, I'm sure this will leave a mark in boxing history. Making youth not understand what hardship boxer go through just to hold a belt. They can easily think it's easy enough to enter into such sports because their idol who little to no experience has a exhibition match with also a notable champion in that sports.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 20, 2022, 07:34:33 PM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

I don't agree with this kind of fight, It is so clear that the promoter is just taking advantage of the popularity of the two fighter just to grab money from the target audience. Even if it is labeled as exhibition match, I don't see any exhibit in the fight since the other fighter is too noob to fight while the other fighter is well accustomed to the fight.

Nowadays this has become a trend. Popular person even without any professional experience or any form of qualification can get into exhibition matches. This is all for money, and this can ruin the sports at some point. There is a big follower base and the same is being used. During the childhood I used to watch WWE and gets mesmerized. Later understood those are all just tricks. Same as that these are kind of fooling the audience and making money.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 20, 2022, 07:34:33 PM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 02:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

I don't agree with this kind of fight, It is so clear that the promoter is just taking advantage of the popularity of the two fighter just to grab money from the target audience. Even if it is labeled as exhibition match, I don't see any exhibit in the fight since the other fighter is too noob to fight while the other fighter is well accustomed to the fight.

well, as the audience saw what kind the fight it was, then, if the promoters will schedule a similar exhibition fight, then don't buy or watch it. clearly, the promoters are exploiting their popularity to earn money. but if the fight is not even worth to watch as exhibition fight, then the audience should not let these promoters earn from their ticket sales. because they will promote an exhibition fight as long as people are buying it.

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