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Quote from: xSkylarx on August 03, 2022, 11:39:28 PM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 01:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring

Personally, I don't like supporting these type of matches unless the revenue goes to a charity. Most of the time, influencers just do those matchups for the sake of clout. The influencers will create a scripted issue, make it look serious, hype it on social media then settle it on a fighting match. Organizers also take advantage of it because of the influencers' big fanbase that can generate them a huge amount of profit.

It's not up to us to support or not, they do have a promoter.

What Hulk probably thought is that because the Paul brothers did it well to make money by challenging fighters in the ring, he could also do it while embarrassing those who accept thier challenge. Maybe next time, this time he learned a lesson but I guess they still got the money right?

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 01:17:25 AM

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring

Personally, I don't like supporting these type of matches unless the revenue goes to a charity. Most of the time, influencers just do those matchups for the sake of clout. The influencers will create a scripted issue, make it look serious, hype it on social media then settle it on a fighting match. Organizers also take advantage of it because of the influencers' big fanbase that can generate them a huge amount of profit.

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 03, 2022, 04:07:39 AM

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It could be that promoters exploit their popularity while they still have supporters who will support them in competing.
We can support the fight in the ring but also refuse it.
But even if we reject it, we don't know if it will work because if the promoter has someone behind it, the event will continue and more will follow.
But maybe it's common sense to exploit such fights to entertain the audience, although we might think it would be weird.

Checking the fight it's clearly exploitation the Iranian Hulk has zero boxing skill, he just sign up for the money he even dedicated the fight to his country when he even doesn't know how to throw a punch, I don't think he is even into a fist fight, it's very obvious on this fight, he should not take the fight and just become a powerlifter because that's what he loves to do not fighting, I don't think he will even have a second fight no promoter will put him in the ring, he could get himself kill.

Yes, that's true but even if he could kill himself, he would still do it because of the money.
Many people will do anything for money, even if it can hurt themselves.
In this day and age where it is difficult to find money, people are willing to do anything to earn money.
Even if they did something that he wouldn't be able to do, they would try to do it.

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I think there is no debate here, it's a easy money grab for the two and then the network or promotions that carry this supposedly, hype fight.

But it is what it is, for a true fans of boxing, this is clearly an exhibition match. And when we talk about those kind of fights, the athletes are just going to the motion, no serious training behind, and this is what we get from this fight. It really messed up the industry though, as anyone can call anyone in the internet then have a fight and make money.

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For me this match seems to be for the money. They have created a name for themselves thru internet and they just want to take advantage of it. And I guess it shows that having huge body is not an advantage of something, maybe in Sumo wrestling, but in boxing, it's too taxing if you have those kind of muscles and it will make you tired very fast. And so makes the fight very boring for fans as it is not even competitive.

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Unfortunately, this is the first time that I heard about this match.

Are there any crypto betting options for this though? What are the odds for either? I'm just asking so that I can gauge if there is someone who lost or make money out of this fight, other wise it might be rigged or something.

And yeah, it's obvious that this is just a internet hype and nothing more, but then again, someone will have to fall for this kind of trick because of their popularity.

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The fight is for the clearly for the money. Can we call it a case of exploitation if both men had agreed to the fight? In my estimation, it was clearly neither fun nor entertaining to watch. Promoters would do anything to promote an official match, I guess this is a typical example. Right now, people would watch you anything as long as you are popular on the internet. And most people who are popular on the internet would do anything as long as will they get paid for it.

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Such matches too needs terms and conditions, just because an internet sensation has money he shouldn't be allowed to get into a sport in which he doesn't have good experience. This is completely for money and the Professionals too shouldn't accept such fights. This looks interesting and more funny to watch, at some point it is the exploitation of that particular sports. If I'm not wrong, certain group of people get interested in watching these matches and not the professional ones which is truly a setback.

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Quote from: Yogee on August 03, 2022, 05:26:50 PM

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I don't see it as an exploitations.

They've chosen that path and they will agree first and sign a contract before doing any type of crazy exhibition match. This also goes and being applied to the Paul brothers and whoever they fight.

Well, they've been built for that and it's a plus that they make money, they entertain people and they love what they do.

It's clearly a money grab for both organizers and fighters but you're right that everyone involved knew what they are up to. Most fans are probably aware of what they're paying for.

Yes.

It's all for the hype and entertainment and everyone who pays for the ticket know what exactly they're watching for. Whether it's an exhibition, a scripted fight with some dramas.

That's what they pay for and these organizers know how huge these sort of entertainment are making and they're just taking advantage of it for them to rake money from fans and those interested people that are just there who wants to watch.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on August 03, 2022, 06:23:24 PM

There should have a fair competition to know who is the strongest man or the real hulk as boxing isn't really fit for them. What do we think gonna happen in the ring? With no knowledge about the basics, We certainly can't expect them to do boxing but just an exercise inside. That actually it makes no sense and such criteria aren't right to tell who is the real man, the real hulk.

That was easy money for the promoters. But on the other side, this won't affect their reputation.

in my opinion, this is basically just for the money and a clear exploitation of the sports. they are seeing that they can generate easy money here, why not? that's why, don't expect that they know the rules of this sports. as long as they can extract money from this type of fight, they will. now, it is up to the viewers if they don't want to see this kind of fight again.

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There should have a fair competition to know who is the strongest man or the real hulk as boxing isn't really fit for them. What do we think gonna happen in the ring? With no knowledge about the basics, We certainly can't expect them to do boxing but just an exercise inside. That actually it makes no sense and such criteria aren't right to tell who is the real man, the real hulk.

That was easy money for the promoters. But on the other side, this won't affect their reputation.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 03, 2022, 05:41:30 PM

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Obviously, the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match signed to this fight unprepared and with zero boxing skills, even an amateur boxer can beat this guy with Hulkster, watching this fight made me think that promoters are just exploiting their popularity and these so-called internet sensations just want to have a quick buck.

Very ridiculous what i just watched, I expected something a bit more tense considering their body size, not this child's play I saw. I'm very disappointed I must say, in them both and in the promoters that promoted this knowing well that it may not be as expected, clearly their aim was to make money, nothing more.

We cannot blame viewers if they see this one as not worth to watch, but of course there's still money for this and that's why the promoter of this one push it through. This is just an exhibition match though, we can't really expect that it will be a more intense match since its a fixed match most probably. Well, this is the new trend now where retired boxer and social media personality came back to ring just to have fun and make money, you should not take this seriously and better not to place any bet on any exhibition matches.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 01:17:25 AM

Everybody here has seen the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match against The Kazakh Titan Djumanov Almat Bakhytovich,

Not so sure that everyone has, i just did myself and certainly there are others like myself.

Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 01:17:25 AM

Obviously, the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match signed to this fight unprepared and with zero boxing skills, even an amateur boxer can beat this guy with Hulkster, watching this fight made me think that promoters are just exploiting their popularity and these so-called internet sensations just want to have a quick buck.

Very ridiculous what i just watched, I expected something a bit more tense considering their body size, not this child's play I saw. I'm very disappointed I must say, in them both and in the promoters that promoted this knowing well that it may not be as expected, clearly their aim was to make money, nothing more.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 01:17:25 AM

Everybody here has seen the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match against The Kazakh Titan Djumanov Almat Bakhytovich,

I feel left out because I don't even know who these guys are hehe.

Quote from: livingfree on August 03, 2022, 04:50:40 PM

I don't see it as an exploitations.

They've chosen that path and they will agree first and sign a contract before doing any type of crazy exhibition match. This also goes and being applied to the Paul brothers and whoever they fight.

Well, they've been built for that and it's a plus that they make money, they entertain people and they love what they do.

It's clearly a money grab for both organizers and fighters but you're right that everyone involved knew what they are up to. Most fans are probably aware of what they're paying for.

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What we can expect from an exhibition match?
If you’re not interested to watch this kind of matches then you’re free not to watch but for the organizer of this one, if there’s still a money for this most probably they will push this through. This could be for entertainment and if you’re the influencer you are aiming to try something new and for the money as well.

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I don't see it as an exploitations.

They've chosen that path and they will agree first and sign a contract before doing any type of crazy exhibition match. This also goes and being applied to the Paul brothers and whoever they fight.

Well, they've been built for that and it's a plus that they make money, they entertain people and they love what they do.

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After going through OP and watching the clip from the provided link, you need no one to tell you who the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi is. His truly got zero boxing skills, probably because his too focused on the weight lifting and not doing any actual punching bag practice. He can't even get his hands up to guard his face. He seemed to have believed so much in his enormous weight to make the difference but that's so not it here and he couldn't even take hits.

Well, this was clearly a fun match and the Kazakh Titan Djumanov Almat Bakhytovich was the one having all the fun. Clearly untouched while he landed most of his punch on the body and head just right. Fair enough, it's just a fun match at the gym with few fans to entertain. I I think that's just about it, a fun match.

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It's not up to us to allow them to fight. If they want to do it it's their reputation and they're earning money just for being there so it's not like they're going to regret it.

The fight you used as an example was very bad. Reminds me of those david vs goliath style of fights in the UFC where they match opponents from different weight divisions just for fun, but this one was much worse. The Iranian didn't know how to fight. He was turning around to expose his back like it was some teenage brawl.

Some of these fights can be entertaining. This one was not.

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Quote from: Fortify on August 03, 2022, 03:35:24 PM

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Have you ever seen the WWF? You could argue that's been making a mockery of boxing for 25+ years - I know they call it "wrestling" but in reality it's all just theatrics in a boxing ring. I don't see any problem with it, if all fighters are aware of the risks and willingly want to participate then leave them to it. As we see with the popularity of the WWF contest every year, some people just like to watch this as a form of entertainment rather than a professional sport. There are serious tournaments and there are mock fights, follow whatever you like and it doesn't hurt anyone else. The real saps are the people paying for tickets which ultimately ends up funding the huge wage packets they get in return.

Thinking off sensibly that if these mockery doesnt really get huge revenue or profits then we wont really be seeing for them to continue these things and i heavily agree on what you had said and compared it on WWF
which is basically been done on a boxing ring and we've been seeing these things for a long time and still present as of today which does simply imply that there's really a market for this.If you do find this stuff
to be not good or not right at all then you could just simply leave and ignore but there are people who do really like to see these things just for them to be entertained
and since people are different then we could really see different preferences.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 03, 2022, 01:17:25 AM

Everybody here has seen the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match against The Kazakh Titan Djumanov Almat Bakhytovich, these two are fierce rivals as internet sensations for having huge bodies like incredible hulk they finally settle their differences in the ring but unfortunately it's not the kind of fight that we want to see because it's too one-sided and it did not live through the hype

Obviously, the Iranian Hulk Sajad Gharibi match signed to this fight unprepared and with zero boxing skills, even an amateur boxer can beat this guy with Hulkster, watching this fight made me think that promoters are just exploiting their popularity and these so-called internet sensations just want to have a quick buck.

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

Have you ever seen the WWF? You could argue that's been making a mockery of boxing for 25+ years - I know they call it "wrestling" but in reality it's all just theatrics in a boxing ring. I don't see any problem with it, if all fighters are aware of the risks and willingly want to participate then leave them to it. As we see with the popularity of the WWF contest every year, some people just like to watch this as a form of entertainment rather than a professional sport. There are serious tournaments and there are mock fights, follow whatever you like and it doesn't hurt anyone else. The real saps are the people paying for tickets which ultimately ends up funding the huge wage packets they get in return.

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