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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

All these issues of it been good or not been good could be resolved should the entities incharge of the forum make an understanding with any casino's using the forum to first tackle any issues of accusation here in the forum then if it's beyond what the forum can handle alone then it could be referred to askglambers for further scrutiny of the issue on ground. But since such a thing is not made in the forum how then can we say if it's "good or not good".

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

I’d say it’s an advantage on the part of the casinos as they can find reasons not to answer those accusations in bitcointalk forum but if they still don’t find solutions to that problems, they will eventually mark as a red flag as non-reputable casino which means losing their future users and players, and losing their future profits as well. Although casinos have their own choices where to answer all those gambler’s accusations, but if they want to stay competitive and stay at edge over other casinos, they should stay always active in the forum and be responsible enough to cater to all the concerns of the gamblers.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

Website administrators should include in their knowledge subjects about SEO, if they have a complaint hanging, ignored, and avoided in a highly reputable platform like Bitcointalk it will show up in the search engine, that is why webmasters included in their campaign good ratings in sites like Trustpilot because it will have an impact on their reputation because they know that people will do a research and they usually use Bitcointalk, Askgambler, other platforms, and the search engine when it comes to gambling reputation.

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For what reason they will do that? Are they triggered that this forum help a lot of bullied customers? I think the forum is even more helpful than Askgamblers, Cryptogamblingfoundation and other casino organizations out there, as I saw some gamblers post a complaint on them but it seems their response are only being seen and haven't been responded for a very long time while that's not the case on this forum. Once a gambler post a complaint here, any user can then see it and they will comment on it, trying to see if what they can do in the issue.

So, the answer to the question is "no". It isn't good for the accuser but can only be good for the casino to continue their shady business.

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When the accusation is posted in this forum, it mean only the gambler and the casino are handle the case, so if the gambler doesn't accept a solution from the casino, it will cause a drama between both of them. But if the case is brought to third party like askgambler and casinoguru, they're already experienced in casino industry and for sure they can give a best solution to handle that. It will prove if the accusation is true or fake, also if the gambler want to report to the third party, it mean he's has an effort to proceed the accusation.

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Wherever the accuser and accused can rectify the problem is fine to me. I wasn't aware of askgamblers but just now checked and saw the parties communicating + askgambler rep giving rating to casinos according to case resolved.

Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk..

Could care less about such disclaimer, just posting thread is helpful for potential future consumers as they can make judgements through it.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on January 12, 2023, 05:44:00 PM

I agree with posters who said it's strange if a casino would choose another platform to answer accusations. Normally they either not use bitcointalk or any other forum like reddit and simply deal with accusations directly on their dedicated support channels, email and so on, or they use all the forums and social media to address problems.
Choosing their own moderated forum is always a sign of dishonesty. If they're willing to talk to you somewhere else, but not here, that's a red flag. Why would they want to set up their own forum if not to fake it, act like they care, buy time?

I agree, it gives an image of greater reliability. To a certain extent, I can understand that they want to deal with complaints on sites they consider more neutral, but as they advertise on the forum, that they don't want to deal with complaints here leaves something to be desired. Any business is subject to customer complaints, sometimes unwarranted or unfounded, but tough shit.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

Makes sense to be honest. I mean, if they think it is better for them to be active on some other well known platform that actually helps communicate between users and the casino operators (like askgambler), then why not? They probably think it is better to focus on other platforms than to focus on this forum. You do know that there are tons of other casinos, but has no announcement here?

Quote from: Baofeng on January 12, 2023, 06:57:30 AM

Doesn't make sense though for casino operators not to answer the accusers here in this community specially if it is crypto based.
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Of course if both parties are not satisfied here then they can always go to askgamblers for mediation.

Have a look at those scam accusation threads. You will find 90% of spammers talking bs and not helping at all. And then there are those bs accusers that makes false accusation because they lost in the casino. I doubt that person would want to go to askgamblers to solve their problem. The user will keep on creating a nuisance over here.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

If the casino operators are looking for a fair one, then they should learn to accept and answer the issues being address in the forum since the forum itself is a fair and moderated platform. Because if they try to avoid it and stick to their own rule, of course we can do nothing about it but surely they will find it hard attracting a lot of customers since beginners gambler usually start asking and learning in the forum.

Not sure what you mean by moderated though, this community is not heavily moderated that's why everyone is free to discuss everything even scam accusations. But I do agree with the majority that this is the best place to settle everything if there is some accusations against a crypto based casinos. Gamblers here are fair and I will say that the casino can get that here. There are some shilling though, but still this should not stop casino's from hearing such scam accusations here in this forum, IMHO.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

As long as the representatives of the casino are willing to be fair on their rulings and admit to be at fault when they make a mistake and they pay whatever money they owe to their customers then the website where the actual discussion takes place should be irrelevant, now if for some reason the owner of a casino feels they have been mistreated in some way or form at the forum and this is why they are taking this posture then there is nothing to do but to respect their decision, even if it would be for the best to resolve the accusations that are made on the forum to be resolved on the forum as well.

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Well, if they are advertising here wouldn't it be fair to also answer the queries on this platform?
And if they are using cryptocurrencies as payment options for deposits and withdrawals wouldn't it also be a good idea to discuss it here where it specialized at those targets?
I mean, most of their customers that rely on cryptocurrencies will come from here so it's better for business. I don't why they should limit it only to platforms that are focusing only on gambling discussion.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

No. I mean, they're posting the answer to the queries that the accuser gave out, not the answers to anyone else. That's pretty much just an excuse, especially if we consider how bitcointalk is a platform for some big crypto casinos. This simply means they want to avoid this place since a lot of people are here, and I reckon algorithms would lead new users to here instead of platforms that give them static reviews instead of proper review discussions like here, so they want to avoid that.

Well that's just my opinion though, casinos may simply just not want to. I mean, it's not like it's a necessity or anything.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

If they want to address scam-related issues and complaints on other platforms, we can't do anything about it.

It's their choice to answer things on whatever platform they prefer.

What matter here is, they can solve the problem and settles all the cases. If all cases instead are just put on pending and unresolved, then even if they do answer here in the forum and their response is not clear, then all are useless.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

Maybe change or add to the subject the term "crypto casinos" so that it won't generalize all online casinos.

Obviously, if they set up an ANN thread here, it's always a good action too if they will active at answering accusations here in the forum. That's the reason in the first place for setting up their discussion thread here, to hear users' feedback and complaints regardless of whether it's positive or not and respond to it.

In the case though that they are not responding here but are able to settle the complaints properly, that's good, and hope they will keep that trait.

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I agree with posters who said it's strange if a casino would choose another platform to answer accusations. Normally they either not use bitcointalk or any other forum like reddit and simply deal with accusations directly on their dedicated support channels, email and so on, or they use all the forums and social media to address problems.
Choosing their own moderated forum is always a sign of dishonesty. If they're willing to talk to you somewhere else, but not here, that's a red flag. Why would they want to set up their own forum if not to fake it, act like they care, buy time?

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I do not see any benefit from both the casino and the abuser if the casino put on its TOS to not reply on any unmoderated community platform like forum. Implementing such condition will only limit the casinos way of communication and we know communication is the most important factor of building community. The casino is just depriving itself of the huge possible market audience. Though the casino has the right to not reply on any forum but it will only make possible players to doubt their platform. So whether it is on their tos or not, the casino must make sure that they have all the complaint covered in order for their platform become reputable.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

If the site involved has an active ANN thread discussion here, therefore, responding to accusations here is a good option as that will give them a + points as the community will able to see how they handle those accusations thrown at them.

If the site involved doesn't have an ANN thread here, then no choice but for users to trust that their case will be solved on other platforms.

But always remember that casinos do have the right to not answer accusations here in the forum that's why users need to be properly careful about what casinos should they play with. Since money is involved here, users need to enhance their research when choosing casinos.

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Quote from: alegotardo on January 12, 2023, 05:25:05 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

Each casino has autonomy to decide how it will handle the accusations it receives.
We know that Bitcointalk has many baseless accusations of alleged players, lies and attempts at defamation.
These cases discourage casino operators from answering the accusations here on Bitcointalk which is a free environment for anyone to post whatever they want.
However, we must remember that Bitcointalk is the largest crypto community, and probably also where most of the players on these sites are concentrated.
So, failing to respond to the accusations here would be something very negative for sites that even sponsor a lot of subscription campaigns and hire forum marketing services.
It is necessary to maintain this relationship of trust with users and answer them here at bitcointalk.

If you are a company which is crypto based then it would be understandable that you should make yourself that get some connection out of this forum.Yes, its true that accusations might really be that real
or just simply having no basis at all or simply trolling which it would really be making you think that it is pointless on answering out those accusations without solid evidence and proof but we know that
if people here on this forum do see on how attentive you are on answering those issues and make those responses then it would really be giving out that kind of impression that you are really that reliable
and active on handling out issues whether they are real or not.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 12, 2023, 06:50:15 AM

Is It Good For The Casinos And The Accusers If the casino operators decided to post a disclaimer that they will not answer accusations here in Bitcointalk but prefer to address them on other platforms that they think are fair and moderated like Askgambler and other platforms?
What's your take on this I don't want to be specific but the question applies to all casino operators.

Each casino has autonomy to decide how it will handle the accusations it receives.
We know that Bitcointalk has many baseless accusations of alleged players, lies and attempts at defamation.
These cases discourage casino operators from answering the accusations here on Bitcointalk which is a free environment for anyone to post whatever they want.
However, we must remember that Bitcointalk is the largest crypto community, and probably also where most of the players on these sites are concentrated.
So, failing to respond to the accusations here would be something very negative for sites that even sponsor a lot of subscription campaigns and hire forum marketing services.
It is necessary to maintain this relationship of trust with users and answer them here at bitcointalk.

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Quote from: bitbollo on January 12, 2023, 05:04:39 PM

it depends... if they have a rationale why not!
however I will be pretty surprised for a similar choice. Not just to not provide public answer here, but also to add a disclaimer! By the way, the most important think is to have a problem solved. If the solution (and issue) is public is much better also for other players that can be aware about issues/specific rules of a casino.

There are instances on which we do believe that the site might not really be that giving some responses but they do have already made up some negotiations behind in between the accuser which you might have whom
thought that they arent giving some feedback or words in relation to issue or problem.We can assume but we dont actually know on whats happening behind and this is why its really hard to make out direct conclusions
without having some confirmation which one of the sides. Its impossible for a casino not to touch up with this forum specially if its cryptobased but in overall, there's no company would really be liking to
mess up their reputation whether they would be touching up into this forum or into another places.

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