Is it legal to do BitcoinTalk Accounts - Buy Sell Trade ?

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Quote from: Gasty4 on January 04, 2022, 11:37:24 PM

Who are the DT members ? What's there function ?

DT means Default Trust. It's further divided into DT1 and DT2. The lists are made up of the forum's most trusted members who ensure that certain community standards are being respected. Scamming or spamming are some of the reasons why you could end up with a negative feedback by the DT community. Since scams aren't moderated by the forum and its moderators, DT members make sure that those who scam are rightly tagged.

Check out the following threads to read more about the DT system:
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Quote from: The Cryptovator on December 08, 2021, 12:01:53 PM

The forum rules do not prevent you to trade or buy/selling an account. But is highly discouraged by the forum and by the community. Some DT members would tag sold accounts then the account wouldn't be useful for why you are buying. Most people buy accounts to take quick entry in the signature campaign, but if the sold account gets the tag from DT members, then it will just be useless and only can participate in the discussion.

Just for your information, most of the sold accounts discovering eventually and getting the tag. So it's not very easy to use sold account. Just build your account from the ground and learn.

Who are the DT members ? What's there function ?

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Quote from: SmokerFace on December 27, 2021, 09:27:04 AM

It isn't prohibited on any forum. I haven't seen any such prohibition on any forum. But it must be strictly banned. The ranking should not be purchased, it must be acquired by own skills. If any high-ranked account is purchased and you don't have the required skill set you the purchased account cannot be useful.

I think achieving high ranks is not a competition so why should we hurry if we are newbies and struggling a little bit to rank up to the next rank I think need to develop more/ contribute more in the forum so that we can achieve the high rank.
It is very bad that your rank is high but you your self know that you are not qualified for that rank cause you did not achieve what you buy that, it's a dishonest and even trick your own Self.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 29, 2021, 02:30:32 PM

The forum moderator doesn't moderate scams or spam .

You are right about the scam, but you are wrong about the spam. Moderators encourage forum users not to make spam posts because they are pointless. Moderators also moderate spam well where there are thousands of reports of spam posts being deleted, thread locked, or being moved to other board.

About buying and selling account I think the problem is solved now and the OP can lock this thread. Buying a high rank account is not the best practice to do when one is having trouble getting merit to rank up and based on experience, it is a practice that many DT members dislike even though it is not legally prohibited.

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Quote from: Trojane on December 28, 2021, 06:22:47 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 14, 2021, 12:01:35 PM

The forum doesn't support accounts sales because it discourages equality/fairness among the members, it supports spamming of the forum and if it continues it will reduce the level of the member contribution to the forum.
I could remember when I first join this forum account sales is something people does openly and Bitcointalk Account price estimator is the site people used to calculate the price of account then but at some point, the forum came to a conclusion about account sales because it will affect the forum reputation and that's the reason why the DT member tag every user that's involved in account sale.

Why haven't it been ban yet,?

The forum moderator doesn't moderate scams or spam and that's the DT are the rightful person to handle issues that have to do with the account.

Quote from: Trojane on December 28, 2021, 06:22:47 PM

Don't you think the forum should rather make prohibitions on that rather than frowning at it?

My thought or belief has no impact on the forum stance on this issue but we're talking about something that has been in existence before I even join this forum. It is hard to an end to it.

Quote from: Trojane on December 28, 2021, 06:22:47 PM

If we have seen the main purpose of farming accounts for sales to be useless and uncalled-for, thereby luring in spammers and shit posters in perfect disguise around the forum just to generate bugging and they might eventually be scammers too, why can't the MODS put a total stop to it

Moderating this forum is more than enough job for the forum moderators and if you check the report section you'll see a lot of executed issues. Adding the account farming will be too much for the moderator that's a decision was made that the forum member and the DT should handle it by themselves.

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There is no forum rule that outrightly prohibite the sales of account on bitcointalk but, its greatly discouraged and most users on the forum drawn at the act. I tell you, some users are sure to follow up other users because of the quality of there post or the information they often provide. In cases as such, an account changing hands is easily noticeable by such persons. Undoubtedly, the level of understanding is going to vary significantly coupled with the niche the original user might have dominated. Hence, you get an account with a user that is just put to earn through signatures and bounties by multiple spam posting.

Building your account from the scratch might seem like a lot but , I can assure you that you grow on it and it grows on you too. So long as the zeal to learn and contribute is there.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 14, 2021, 12:01:35 PM

The forum doesn't support accounts sales because it discourages equality/fairness among the members, it supports spamming of the forum and if it continues it will reduce the level of the member contribution to the forum.
I could remember when I first join this forum account sales is something people does openly and Bitcointalk Account price estimator is the site people used to calculate the price of account then but at some point, the forum came to a conclusion about account sales because it will affect the forum reputation and that's the reason why the DT member tag every user that's involved in account sale.

Why haven't it been ban yet,?
Don't you think the forum should rather make prohibitions on that rather than frowning at it?
If we have seen the main purpose of farming accounts for sales to be useless and uncalled-for, thereby luring in spammers and shit posters in perfect disguise around the forum just to generate bugging and they might eventually be scammers too, why can't the MODS put a total stop to it because even the farmers are somehow dubbing the buyers of their cash , thereafter hacking back the accounts from them, I have seen diverse feedbacks and reports that are made ; I believe if the is a rule like this, then peeps won't even need to go about buying an account not to talk of getting robbed of their cash..

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It isn't prohibited on any forum. I haven't seen any such prohibition on any forum. But it must be strictly banned. The ranking should not be purchased, it must be acquired by own skills. If any high-ranked account is purchased and you don't have the required skill set you the purchased account cannot be useful.

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The forum doesn't support accounts sales because it discourages equality/fairness among the members, it supports spamming of the forum and if it continues it will reduce the level of the member contribution to the forum.
I could remember when I first join this forum account sales is something people does openly and Bitcointalk Account price estimator is the site people used to calculate the price of account then but at some point, the forum came to a conclusion about account sales because it will affect the forum reputation and that's the reason why the DT member tag every user that's involved in account sale.

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Quote from: witcher_sense on December 13, 2021, 12:39:41 AM

Quote from: Trojane on December 12, 2021, 08:20:57 PM

Can we just be plain for once

The forum supports buying and selling of an account so it probably means there is nothing wrong with it. It is only when you make a LAW' that someone can be a defaulter when he/she goes against it; not when there is no law!
I'm not totally in support of account farming but it is either made a taboo or reserved for the ones that are comfortable on the trade and the shouldn't be any restrictions (no red tag).
If they don't wanna barn these law so it means anyone that does this is right and doesn't need to be penalized...
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The forum rule that account buyings and sellings aren't prohibited on this forum simply means you won't be banned for doing that. The administrators of this forum do not want to be responsible for the moral code of other people, they do not want to dictate what is right and what is wrong. In fact, it is the community that should decide whether it is morally justified to sell or buy accounts. Bitcointalk forum is a place to discuss topics related to bitcoin. The cost of account creation is zero, there are no fees to see and create content, everything is accessible regardless of rank. Everyone is free to join and participate in discussions, so it makes no sense to buy a higher rank account just to do things you could have done on low-rank accounts.

@lovesmayfamilis hasn't even gotten my points

It's high time we go above these sentimentalities and accept the fact that we ain't seeing any thing wrong with account farming and we have decided to legalise it or make it outrageous' for the fact that it incurrs incessant spam, simple.!
As you said, the Bitcoin forum is made for strictly and basically discussions 'bout Bitcoin and nothing more so I believe that account farming shouldn't be openly advertised in the forum as these would probably promote nuisance.
Since they mods believe peeps down here should be indecisive,so they should let them be.
If you don't like eating fries, then you shouldn't order it to be prepary for your daily meals, who will eat them?
My point is; if account farming is frowned at, then it should be ABOLISHED AT ONCE and made a law such that anyone that is suspected should face the wrath of the forum, simple !
I wouldn't wanna talk bout these again 😑
Regards, Trojane ❣️

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Quote from: Trojane on December 12, 2021, 08:20:57 PM

Can we just be plain for once

The forum supports buying and selling of an account so it probably means there is nothing wrong with it. It is only when you make a LAW' that someone can be a defaulter when he/she goes against it; not when there is no law!
I'm not totally in support of account farming but it is either made a taboo or reserved for the ones that are comfortable on the trade and the shouldn't be any restrictions (no red tag).
If they don't wanna barn these law so it means anyone that does this is right and doesn't need to be penalized...
Bitter truth Grin

The forum rule that account buyings and sellings aren't prohibited on this forum simply means you won't be banned for doing that. The administrators of this forum do not want to be responsible for the moral code of other people, they do not want to dictate what is right and what is wrong. In fact, it is the community that should decide whether it is morally justified to sell or buy accounts. Bitcointalk forum is a place to discuss topics related to bitcoin. The cost of account creation is zero, there are no fees to see and create content, everything is accessible regardless of rank. Everyone is free to join and participate in discussions, so it makes no sense to buy a higher rank account just to do things you could have done on low-rank accounts.

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Quote from: Trojane on December 12, 2021, 08:20:57 PM

Can we just be plain for once

The forum supports buying and selling of an account so it probably means there is nothing wrong with it. It is only when you make a LAW' that someone can be a defaulter when he/she goes against it; not when there is no law!
I'm not totally in support of account farming but it is either made a taboo or reserved for the ones that are comfortable on the trade and the shouldn't be any restrictions (no red tag).
If they don't wanna barn these law so it means anyone that does this is right and doesn't need to be penalized...
Bitter truth Grin

Do you probably read the rules to the point? The rules say that selling accounts is not prohibited, but not recommended. That is, the emphasis is on the second part. Accordingly, the forum adheres to freedom of action, but there should be a reasonable limit to all freedoms.
Everyone understands, and one should not think that the purchase of an account is being done for good purposes, and, understandably, a lie is being planned. Thus, the red tag is placed as a warning that all transactions associated with the purchased account may be deceiving.
I laugh at people who are used to living in a rigid framework, "can" and "not".

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Can we just be plain for once

The forum supports buying and selling of an account so it probably means there is nothing wrong with it. It is only when you make a LAW' that someone can be a defaulter when he/she goes against it; not when there is no law!
I'm not totally in support of account farming but it is either made a taboo or reserved for the ones that are comfortable on the trade and the shouldn't be any restrictions (no red tag).
If they don't wanna barn these law so it means anyone that does this is right and doesn't need to be penalized...
Bitter truth Grin

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Quote from: Blank-Head on December 11, 2021, 02:21:54 PM

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I took a little bit of reading on what PlayerUp is up to, no pun intended, although I don't really feel digging too much on this strange site from my previous reply. From the Reddit comments I had read, it seems like it just like an Ebay, but instead of selling physical goods, it is all about accounts. It is not purely a scam site from some comments I read, but it is a site that surely is being used by scammers. It will be easy for scammers to take their accounts back through social engineering for sure.

@OP, as what skarais said.

Quote from: skarais on December 11, 2021, 02:50:57 PM

OP, I advise you to lock this thread considering you've got the answers you need, and for all that has been suggested to you should be of some use.

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Quote from: Blank-Head on December 11, 2021, 02:21:54 PM

Looks like a pure scam website.And Bitcointalk don't encourage about trading Forum accounts.So its better to grow up your account yourself.

Most likely your doubts are correct. Imagine why they would be willing to sell the account when they themselves could use it to join a bounty or signature campaign if the account had a good reputation. For no other reason than because they want to scam greedy buyers and your last thought should be the best option for anyone trying to buy an account.

OP, I advise you to lock this thread considering you've got the answers you need, and for all that has been suggested to you should be of some use.

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Looks like a pure scam website.And Bitcointalk don't encourage about trading Forum accounts.So its better to grow up your account yourself.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on December 08, 2021, 12:44:34 PM

Thanks for your information . Actually I am new at this platform that's why I'm just asking this question for clear my confusions about this topic and learn more information .

I hope that you now understand more clearly that trading with bitcointalk accounts is not prohibited, but is strongly frowned upon by the community. Almost all account sellers are scammers, and even if you manage to buy an account, you can't be sure it won't be banned in the future because you don't know what the account was used for.

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Seriously I was also thinking that selling of account is not allowed until when I saw a thread which was about account selling and buying which they said is allowed, but to me I think is a very bad idea if people can trade accounts, for example what if am having a Bitcointalk account and am a high rank member and am also a trusted person on the forum, what will happen if that kind of account is sold out which you don't know if the person buying the account is a scammer don't you think the person will use the trust opportunity to scam people. That's just my opinion!!!

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Quote from: Crypto Library on December 10, 2021, 01:16:12 PM

And seriously tell you something yes I have a little bit of intend before this posting this topic .
But I was also confused about trading bitcointalk accounts I search on the google for clear my confusions but it wasn't clear that . And that's why I created this topic to clear cut my confusions.

And now I know and understand about that . And about the risk of buying an account Wink

Your thinking was wrong, I will say anyone wondering to buying an account is wrong. It's because whatever you want to earn from the forum doesn't require a high rank except for a signature campaign. You can continue even with a newbies account, anyone will not prevent you to participate in discussion on the forum as well. But I believe you wouldn't be qualified for any BTC campaign with the bought account. Because most of the managers of the BTC signature campaign will visit your profile and merit. If you can't write constructive discussions and can't contribute means you can't earn merit. If you can earn merit then why do you need to buy an account? You can just build your own. And eventually bought account will be just useless.

Yes brother I know was wrong . But now I am learning and researching and trying my best to gain up of my own capabilities. I hope I will get support from you ❤️

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Quote from: Falconer on December 10, 2021, 01:15:48 PM

Crypto Library, You can buy and sell your account, but listen to these people's advice that doesn't seem like a good thing to do.

Forum and forum users will never prevent you from gaining knowledge, merit system and rank up if you care about post quality. So when these people can help you get merit, rank up, and get the right knowledge when it comes to your personal development,

Yes. I respect forum and forum users opinions. And I will always try to obey their opinions .

Quote from: Falconer on December 10, 2021, 01:15:48 PM

You know, some users have already given you merit and this should be something that motivates you to post something high quality. You will soon reach Jr members when you have 30 activity already, so keep going and welcome in the forum bitcointak.org

Thanks for the appreciation . Yes recently I got 4 merits . And I am very excited and interest for that . Now I am learning new new things in this forum . And trying my best to gain up.

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