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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 07, 2024, 02:29:49 AM

What would an appropriate response be? Well you kill someone in a fit of rage, maybe they chain you to a public town square and clip off a toe a day until you bleed out. If you live past your 10 toes, start taking fingers, then legs, then balls, or whatever order you want to start.

That sounds like such a horrible way to unalive a person, a MURDERER... I'd vouch for it as long it curtails the insurgencies, but I wouldn't do it myself, neither will I stand a sight of it being done. I mean, it's dreadful enough to discourage such practices, especially in the interior part of the villages where civilization is yet to hit.
Fuck the juries that may eventually sentence a man( for a case like this) to max 10 years in prison with a possibility of parole... Fuck the day I'd see them strolling the surface of the earth, after they gruesomely sent a person like them beneath -- "dust we are and dust we shall return to"

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So to answer your question, no it's not worth dying for a silly team but from the way you explained it, it wasn't the players fault.

..and yes, I also wanted to create an awareness (since we had a similar case, with almost the same club involved, in the same location not quite long) about the past event, meanwhile, engaging the main interest of the thread, all in one sitting... If that was ugly, my bad! But, I honestly thought I'd be for the better!!!

Edit: hey yahoo, take a quick survey on the OP and see the changes that has been made... preciate!

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 06, 2024, 08:30:51 PM

WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?

I don't believe that is the right question for this situation. When you ask whether it is worth dying for a football club, you basically ask whether a fan should do something that could get the fan killed for the club, but in this case, fans didn't do anything so wrong to get killed. I understand that it sometimes can be annoying if you are trying to sleep and there are people making a lot of noise, but that doesn't give you the right to kill them. The fans were enjoying themselves because they were happy for their favorite team and they have the right to do that. If the manager didn't like it, he could tell the guards to ask them to leave the vicinity.

As a fan, if I absolutely love the team I support, I will also be so happy that I would cheer for them and enjoy if I'm with other people with similar feelings and I don't see anything wrong with that. So, I believe the people who are involved in shooting those fans should get caught and punished for what they did and the fans were not doing anything wrong.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on December 07, 2024, 01:39:11 AM

Although, in all likelihood, the deceased football fan was not to blame for the conflict.

Not in anyway... Why should he be blamed for getting hit by a stray bullet? The manager and the guard needs to be in jail for passing out/carrying out such an abysmal act. Again, I'm wondering -- what sort of security guard opens fire unwarrantably in the air? He's wasn't in the most felicitous mood to be allowed a gun, cause WTF was he shooting for??

Quote from: Davidvictorson on December 07, 2024, 12:39:19 AM

When I read the Topic titled I thought it was the same as the one I joined the discussion here some time ago but it is different. This is the second occurrence in less than three months.

This is a different scenario that sounds possibly more lame than the regular ones we see out here... I had to compare before bringing it to y'all.

Quote from: HONDACD125 on December 07, 2024, 06:29:34 AM

I don't believe that is the right question for this situation. When you ask whether it is worth dying for a football club, you basically ask whether a fan should do something that could get the fan killed for the club, but in this case, fans didn't do anything so wrong to get killed.

You're not FAR from the truth... Maybe you'll have to read my latest replies below your own comment to see the reasons why... I guess the illustration was a bit intriguing, but for as many that read and understood why, preciate y'all!!

Edit; hey y'all, take a look at the OP again...

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Your title is misleading; the way you've stated it is implying that someone has killed themselves over their football club. Unfortunately, it's quite common to see football fans behaving poorly and being overly fixated on their team. This often ends badly; see what happened in Greece with Croatian hooligans of Dinamo Zagreb during a football match against AEK. Although this isn't a similar incident, it demonstrates how enamored some football fans can be, to the point where they're going beyond what is reasonable and logical.

This case, however, is somewhat different, although Arsenal fans were not complying with the security guard's request, shooting him was completely unnecessary.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 06, 2024, 08:30:51 PM

A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes, but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?

Its crazy that there's people like that which is they are out of business of those teams played do that crime for just getting annoyed other sides fans. But guess that incident is really happening I guess this indicates that we should be more careful on our movements and emotions displayed when watching live games since scenarios like that indicates that we don't know what other people think and what they can able to do with to us so always play safe then celebrate your favorite team wins silently to avoid getting any issue.

Its not worth dying for just team that we like since dying on that scene is totally nonsense thing since people will just forget about what happen, so we need to be cautious and think about our safety when going outside watching those games.

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I don't think anyone will agree that it's worth dying for, not because there aren't lovers of their team or aren't fan enough but even the team wouldn't live it that you die for them, it's expected you were supposed to just be a fan and enjoy the games without having to really go through all of such to show loyalty, in this case in as much as I'm not supporting the culprit but the guy in question should have obeyed the oder of no noise according to your story a d leave so he doesn't get to risk his Life knowing how chaotic that place could be, it's becoming a great concern their police department begins to pay attention to it as it's been on the rise as two cases have been reported from same place.

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The incident in the bar is more like an exception, because fans always react very emotionally when their team wins, and in case of a loss they can even be aggressive. I think a more common occurrence would be fan fights, or now in rare cases fan robberies, in these cases there is a much higher probability that you will get hurt, but it seems to me that this does not stop them, they like it, for them it is part of their life. Of course, no one wants to die, and it is definitely not worth doing for your team, but sometimes accidents happen that no one can be insured against.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 06, 2024, 08:30:51 PM

WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?

The sports football wasn't invented for us fans to die for, therefore, it's not worth dieing for any football club never minding the circumstance.

However, this case on ground is different from a fan dieing for his football club but it's rather a murder case for a fan that was only celebrating the victory of his club. The restaurant manager handled the situation in a dumb manner by having to ask the guard to cut off the power in the first place which later led to the sporadic shooting. I think the restaurant should be shutdown, and the culprits be made to face justice. It's scary to even think that I can lose my life by going out in public place to watch my favourite club play.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 07, 2024, 03:12:41 AM

I'll bet that the unfortunate event in which that Arsenal supporter was shot was in
an attempt to try and quell the possibility of violence, it was done out of fear and panic,
it shouldnt have happened.

They were celebrating that Arsenal won. The news did not mentioned anything like they were celebrating and destroying anything at the restaurant or stealing anything. I think the manager supposed to have used better way to make everything peaceful. If it is in some countries like my country, it is likely that the restaurant might be burnt down.

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To die, or in this case to kill for your football club is very imbecilic. In this case it seems to me that the burden of guilt lies with the killer, who seems to me to have overreacted, and the fact that he is on the run indicates this. But there are many cases of people who get into fights and end up dying for the football club which indicates a low IQ.

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Of course not.
Just for the sake of a favorite team, sometimes fans do crazy things beyond the limit. But this incident is really sad when an incident occurs because the security forces do things that should not be done. I just think why it could happen if they only want to condition the stadium atmosphere to remain safe but instead use very arrogant shots.
This is why sometimes a football fan does not want to watch the match directly because sometimes an unwanted incident occurs and in my opinion after an incident like this, it must really be considered to provide the best way not to use something silly but end up killing other people.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on December 07, 2024, 01:39:11 AM

No, your favorite sports team is not worth dying for. Life is beautiful and amazing, and there are many wonderful things in it besides your favorite and unloved teams and besides sports in general. Sports are cool, but they are a stupid reason to die. In fact, I have to say that being a sports fan is quite dangerous. But it is one thing to be a quiet football fan who enjoys watching a football match at home, and another to assert yourself in friends with other fans or to get into a conflict with a representative of the law. Although, in all likelihood, the deceased football fan was not to blame for the conflict.

Actually being a Soccer fan can be dangerous in certain circumstances and
as Julien_Olynpic says no its not worth dying for.

The supporters of Soccer ^{talking generally} provoke each other to the
point of violence and aggression. It's an historical slurr on the sport IMO.

I'll bet that the unfortunate event in which that Arsenal supporter was shot was in
an attempt to try and quell the possibility of violence, it was done out of fear and panic,
it shouldnt have happened.

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Have you ever seen a fan watching football at home, even drinking beer or not, and after someone has offended his favorite team in any way, he kills himself? I'm sure there hasn't been a single case. Here, the crowd effect, which provoked riots, and as a result, there was an accident in someone was killed. For me, these are two different things. To die for your favorite team, or to die as a result of a random bullet that could fly from where the riots are happening. But yes, I often see a drunken crowd of fans of one or another team who are ready to literally "tear apart" anyone against them. What can I say? People are drunk, caught up in the crowd effect, and everything that can happen to them in this state is only their choice. I don't feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for those who accidentally become witnesses of these crazy fights.

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Why are you guys surprised? There are many sick people in the world today, some have no endurance over everything, they break easily.

In my country a son shot his father because he told him not to go out and watch some football match, there are cases of fights breaking out in sports centre because one team won and the other lost.

When you see people taking things too seriously you need to believe them, don't make them go mad when you already know what they don't like, this is one reason why I like watching football games at home instead of using football game center.

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Of course it is not worth to dying for Football club and i think football should be considers as entertainment sport and people life is more important than it but i don't think it would be so simple because for some of fanatic fans they will always be considers their favourite clubs is more worth than their religion even for their life and i think people at here have already know that there were some incidents involved to football fans which leads to the death and usually these fanatic fans is came from the countries which has a strong football culture and they will always be attempts to defend their favourite clubs reputation which usually those fans will turn to aggressive and attack to the people if their favourite clubs insults especially if it coming from their rival fans

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This just further proves that society is on a rapid decline and before we know it there will just be chaos in the world. Everyone seems to just get extremely pissed off these days and it takes nothing for them to pull out a weapon and get stupid. IMO if we treat stupid with an appropriate response, maybe the stupid will start to disappear.

What would an appropriate response be? Well you kill someone in a fit of rage, maybe they chain you to a public town square and clip off a toe a day until you bleed out. If you live past your 10 toes, start taking fingers, then legs, then balls, or whatever order you want to start.

Let people see what ignorance gets ya and put the fear into them that they don't want it happening to them. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issues before it's too late.

So to answer your question, no it's not worth dying for a silly team but from the way you explained it, it wasn't the players fault.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 06, 2024, 08:30:51 PM

A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.

First of all this is very devastating news and no one deserves to pass away in such a way. Anyway, I do think that both the fans and the security guard is at fault here. I understand that it is a joyous occasion for fans but they need to respect the rules of an establishment and what its owner wants. They could have just left and went to a different place if they wanted to be loud. On the other hand, it could have been handled a lot better by both the manager and the security guard. No violence should have been used to silence the rowdy crowd.

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WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?

How is this a question? The answer will always be no. In under no circumstances it will be worth it to die over your favorite football club. I do not think that fan expected to die anyway when he went to that place and decided to celebrate his team's win.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 06, 2024, 08:30:51 PM

WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?

That is really bad. As for me I have not gotten into any argument before with anyone about any club. Maybe because I prefer to gamble more than watching the football matches or because I see it not worth it as those people they are arguing about do not benefit my life. Many people do not think before they act. You like a club but what is the club offering you that will make you kill and injur people. I hope they will be arrested and be given the right judgement if truly that is what happened.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 06, 2024, 08:30:51 PM

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Oh this one case, definitely nope. Though I don't think the death was due to the football club technically, the idea was that there wasn't really any supposed event that would cause death, regardless of how intense the arguments that were happening between the two teams (In the latter sample of yours OP). Personally I'd shut the fuck up if someone from the opposite team had a gun and was trying to argue with me lol. But in most cases, we don't know the "had a gun" part, hence why those people aren't technicaly "dying" for the club.

As for the first one, idk, doesn't sound like the players were at fault at all. Pretty sure the manager just doing a power trip move and the stupid security did a, well, stupid move.

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In my opinion, football is only an external reason. In fact, the source of such aggression and conflict is in people. They like to provoke conflicts. Well, coincidentally, they turned out to be football fans. And on the other side of the conflict, no less aggressive employees of the institution were caught. So there are dozens of similar cases every day, and maybe hundreds. In this particular case, adults have made their own choice.

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