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June 12, 2023, 03:56:30 PM
I’ve said it plenty before and possibly even on this thread, but providing your personal information to anyone is never safe. This should be evident with all of the hacks that regularly occur. If you do have to provide your identity information, make sure it’s to someone reputable, but even then it could very possibly be hacked and stolen.
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June 12, 2023, 03:18:06 PM
For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.
Generally there is a risk when KYC data is sent to any casino or gambling platform that have no license or comparatively weak. Because those sites can be hacked at any time. If a gambler can choose Trusted site he can send the KYC information. Because if they falsify that information, their site will be destroyed. When a gambler makes a new registration he must observe these things carefully before registration otherwise he may face danger later. Gamblers should not provide KYC data unless they can trust the site.

Actually, choosing a reputable and trusted gambling platform is essential for gamblers. It always happens sites that are licensed and regulated generally follow stringent security protocols. And also sites like these are more likely to be secured properly against hacking attacks. I would say, research the reputation, licensing information, and security practices of a gambling site before you provide any personal information. You know, regulated sites are more likely to adhere to security and data protection standards because these organizations enforce compliance.

In the end, as a sincere gambler you should avoid sharing personal information, including KYC data, with any gambling platform that you feel is unreliable or suspect.
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June 12, 2023, 03:09:54 PM
For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.
Generally there is a risk when KYC data is sent to any casino or gambling platform that have no license or comparatively weak. Because those sites can be hacked at any time. If a gambler can choose Trusted site he can send the KYC information. Because if they falsify that information, their site will be destroyed. When a gambler makes a new registration he must observe these things carefully before registration otherwise he may face danger later. Gamblers should not provide KYC data unless they can trust the site.

I mean, even if we talk about big services (not only casinos) which have been around for years, I can say that those are not completely bullet proof either. When I think on big businesses I think of Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, ect; and all of them have suffered very considerable breaches of information which have released personal information of their clients into the wild world of the internet.

Those are billionaire technological companies, so perhaps we cannot compare them to a small casino which is trying to surge among the competition, still it should makes us think on how relative cyber security is nowadays and the size or the money of a company is not a warranty or a flawless system. Just my two sats on the matter.

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June 12, 2023, 11:24:15 AM
For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.
Generally there is a risk when KYC data is sent to any casino or gambling platform that have no license or comparatively weak. Because those sites can be hacked at any time. If a gambler can choose Trusted site he can send the KYC information. Because if they falsify that information, their site will be destroyed. When a gambler makes a new registration he must observe these things carefully before registration otherwise he may face danger later. Gamblers should not provide KYC data unless they can trust the site.
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June 12, 2023, 07:51:49 AM
For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.

Plus i think with the IA thing and some advanced computer things, the bad guys can made fake profiles without ussing so much real persons.

I think this is very true, for me the things that have to do with giving the data to a platform such as casinos, exchanges is a very high risk that they can leak, and that is why in many cases people kill them, Only because of these things that can be avoided, and the casinos can be given without KYC, but they are the casinos that are decentralized, this is something that cannot be denied, it is more complicated to use a decentralized casino than a centralized one, the bad of the centralized casino is your kyc and all you have to do to be well and be able to withdraw money with peace of mind, because if the KYC is not complied with there are no withdrawals, I strongly recommend being careful, and trusting your preferred casinos, mine is duelbits.

One thing we all must understand is that, no platform is completely safe, whether it be a decentralized casino or centralized casino, they all have their pros and cons, as you have mentioned, the con of a centralized casino is in terms of kyc, which not very many gamblers like going through the process, but then, the con of decentralized casino is that, a gambler not being very careful could end up connecting his or her wallet to a phishing website that is disguised as a decentralized gambling casino, and be rest assured that all the money kept in that wallet is gone for ever..

So the best advice is, if you are choosing a centralized or decentralized casino, do it with the consciousness that no platform is safe and do all that is required to save yourself from losing your money or exposing yourself to the possibility of having your kyc data leaked.

How can this be achieved?
For a decentralized casino - have the code properly checked and verify that there is no malicious code in the smart contract before proceeding to use the platform., and only stick with one or two proven to be legimate..

For a centralized casino - Find a trusted and reputable casino and pass kyc verifications, after that, stick with that casino, going from one casino to the other submitting your personal documents for kyc verification is how and one of the major ways gamblers expose themselves to the possibility of having their kyc data end up in the wrong hands.
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June 12, 2023, 07:31:53 AM
For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.

Plus i think with the IA thing and some advanced computer things, the bad guys can made fake profiles without ussing so much real persons.

I think this is very true, for me the things that have to do with giving the data to a platform such as casinos, exchanges is a very high risk that they can leak, and that is why in many cases people kill them, Only because of these things that can be avoided, and the casinos can be given without KYC, but they are the casinos that are decentralized, this is something that cannot be denied, it is more complicated to use a decentralized casino than a centralized one, the bad of the centralized casino is your kyc and all you have to do to be well and be able to withdraw money with peace of mind, because if the KYC is not complied with there are no withdrawals, I strongly recommend being careful, and trusting your preferred casinos, mine is duelbits.
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June 12, 2023, 07:06:36 AM
For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.

Plus i think with the IA thing and some advanced computer things, the bad guys can made fake profiles without ussing so much real persons.
since the government had been attacking casinos and exchanges for verification of their customers, there is need for us to limit the way we give our data to casinos for us to make us le of there gambling platform to bet. We need to try and reduce our urge to bet on KYC casinos because this may cost us our identities been exposed to the government and third parties.
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June 12, 2023, 07:00:57 AM
Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.
I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.
That depends on which platform you are gambling on, most of the trusted and reputable casinos don't do that in the first place, and if they do, they will let their players know that their terms and conditions have been modified so that no one faces any issues and starts complaining later on. These kinds of platforms deserve to be trusted when it comes to verifying your KYC because they do care for their customers.

Providing your personal details and documents to a new and untrustworthy platform can cause issues in the long run if they turn out to be a scam or trade users' data with another company only to get more funds to invest in their platform. That's why it is not advisable to complete KYC on a new platform.

In my opinion, established businesses are all concern with how the gamblers will continue to trust them, they know the value of integrity and they will keep that trust to continue gaining more players/gamblers to use there services. Though KYC is something that really depends from every person who will entrust this personal information, more on how you truly trust the site/house when dealing and accepting the rules of submitting your data.
legendary
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June 12, 2023, 05:39:37 AM
Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.
I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.
That depends on which platform you are gambling on, most of the trusted and reputable casinos don't do that in the first place, and if they do, they will let their players know that their terms and conditions have been modified so that no one faces any issues and starts complaining later on. These kinds of platforms deserve to be trusted when it comes to verifying your KYC because they do care for their customers.

Providing your personal details and documents to a new and untrustworthy platform can cause issues in the long run if they turn out to be a scam or trade users' data with another company only to get more funds to invest in their platform. That's why it is not advisable to complete KYC on a new platform.
The notion of trust is rather nuanced, particularly in the online casino realm. It's akin to a complex mosaic where every tiny piece contributes to the whole picture. Reputable casinos, of course, are like the cornerstone pieces - they tend to be more reliable However, when it comes to KYC procedures, the waters get murkier. Providing personal details is like opening the doors of your fortress to outsiders. You never know who might seize the opportunity for their own gains. That's why it's crucial to ensure the casino is as trustworthy as an old, loyal guard dog before opening those doors. Just because a platform has been around for a long time doesn't make it impenetrable. Even the most robust fortresses can be breached with the right siege equipment. Therefore, it's prudent to tread carefully. After all, wisdom is the strongest armor one can wear.
hero member
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June 11, 2023, 11:24:54 PM
Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.
I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.
That depends on which platform you are gambling on, most of the trusted and reputable casinos don't do that in the first place, and if they do, they will let their players know that their terms and conditions have been modified so that no one faces any issues and starts complaining later on. These kinds of platforms deserve to be trusted when it comes to verifying your KYC because they do care for their customers.

Providing your personal details and documents to a new and untrustworthy platform can cause issues in the long run if they turn out to be a scam or trade users' data with another company only to get more funds to invest in their platform. That's why it is not advisable to complete KYC on a new platform.
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June 11, 2023, 08:15:20 PM
For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.

Plus i think with the IA thing and some advanced computer things, the bad guys can made fake profiles without ussing so much real persons.
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June 11, 2023, 06:40:53 PM
I agree with you. If it's a security issue, I think enabling 2FA is safe enough
Yes available and ready to be used without any risk, and this security feature can protect your account up to 80%+ and it doesn't require users much info to set it up.
It's a good measure to have this security feature by adding it to your account. 2FA is a good way to avoid the hackers of our accounts to penetrate and access our funds whether it's on a casino or an exchange quickly.

Unlike KYC where the player gives the documents and other personal details that are verified and kept in the casino database or other third-party data hosting sites which is prone to the risk of a hack or government access to those documents.
I think one reason why they do that is really for the government. They've been asked to do that because the government is asking them to do so, and they have no option but to provide everything for them and that's why they're asking customers to comply for kyc.
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June 11, 2023, 04:46:39 PM
Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
I've seen people complaining about the same thing as well where the casino preached to be KYC-free but then asked for KYC, but that case is different because if a casino isn't saying anything about KYC and then asks you to verify yourself, it means that they have it in their terms and conditions but you didn't read them, a lot of people don't like reading terms and conditions because they find it boring or tiring which is why they get in trouble later on.

One should read the rules, terms and conditions, and frequently asked questions before they go ahead and make a deposit at a casino, if they are not satisfied with the rules of the platform, they should not gamble with them at all instead of complaining later.
There are many such gamblers who do not read the terms and conditions of gambling platform before registration. But when they face any kind of problems at the end of gambling, they have complaints about various things. Which is considered baseless in most cases. A gambler is not interested in reading the terms and conditions of his gambling platform where the problems are created. KYC is mandatory or not that is well mentioned in every casino. When a gambler does not follow those terms and instead brings up his complaints to the casino platform support, those issues are reported to him. Then he realized what was wrong. If every gambler tries to carefully read the terms and conditions before registration then KYC issues will be solved properly.
You've touched on a common trap—we often breeze through T&Cs as if they're foreign hieroglyphics, more keen on the game than comprehending the guidelines. Isn't that paradoxical? Addressing the biggie here—KYC. It may seem dull but it's crucial, and more so, it's spelled out in the T&Cs. Why feign shock when required to comply? We need a shift in perception—T&Cs are allies, not obstacles. They're our shields, not snares! Isn't it time to shed our indifference?
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June 11, 2023, 04:16:28 PM
What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.
No matter how much reputed the casino is they can't guarantee that any of the details given by their customers will not be exposed because we all knew that anything that's uploaded into the internet is vulnerable to hack so when we are ready for KYC compliance then we also have to be ready with the consequences as well. But with the reputed names we can feel that they will have better security in their platform where the attacks from hackers can't do anything. All we can do is hope like no such thing will happen to the website where we completed KYC and it's also important to stick platforms which asks basic details for KYC not too much.
It is true. But i think that there is the solution that can help us to avoid such problems. It is the situation when casino don`t store your data. They can have a part of your data and when you KYC - they get proves and remove the data they have. It is difficult enough but if you verified you don`t need to KYC again. May be in situation when you change your wallets or passwords.
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June 11, 2023, 11:41:06 AM


I agree with you. If it's a security issue, I think enabling 2FA is safe enough
Yes available and ready to be used without any risk, and this security feature can protect your account up to 80%+ and it doesn't require users much info to set it up.

Unlike KYC where the player gives the documents and other personal details that are verified and kept in the casino database or other third-party data hosting sites which is prone to the risk of a hack or government access to those documents.
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June 11, 2023, 11:01:10 AM
I don't think the KYC mechanisms is most aimed at securing players' funds but to fulfil regulatory compliance and that is what makes it hard to Know whether or not the data supplied as KYC will be secured and safe but if not then we can rest assured that we have hard our data exposed either to governments or hackers taking them. Off from the casino database.

I think that indeed the kyc requirements are imposed by the casino to comply with existing regulations. Currently, state authorities always require KYC in all financial sectors or financial managers, including casinos. So I'm even more suspicious of casinos that don't ask for kyc on their sites, is it because they haven't been registered so they can provide a policy for playing gambling on their sites without kyc?

Kyc is a way for financial authorities to monitor and collect taxes

2fa security authentication is almost available in all of the reputable casinos ............

I agree with you. If it's a security issue, I think enabling 2FA is safe enough
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June 11, 2023, 10:24:45 AM
I think the KYC introduced into gambling sites is a good idea, for security reason but many people are scared of losing their informations to hackers which is very understandable whereas some sites like 1xbet have improved their securities by including options like 2fac authentication for login and withdrawal of profit just incase an account was hacked. The hacker can't have access to the account holders funds if they don't have access to their Google authenticator app which  is a very nice idea, making it very safe and secured for users.
I don't think the KYC mechanisms is most aimed at securing players' funds but to fulfil regulatory compliance and that is what makes it hard to Know whether or not the data supplied as KYC will be secured and safe but if not then we can rest assured that we have hard our data exposed either to governments or hackers taking them. Off from the casino database.

2fa security authentication is almost available in all of the reputable casinos and not only 1xbet that have such even in stake.com,  there is an option to activate second FA security but subject to the player's desire.
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June 11, 2023, 07:55:30 AM
I think the KYC introduced into gambling sites is a good idea, for security reason but many people are scared of losing their informations to hackers which is very understandable whereas some sites like 1xbet have improved their securities by including options like 2fac authentication for login and withdrawal of profit just incase an account was hacked. The hacker can't have access to the account holders funds if they don't have access to their Google authenticator app which  is a very nice idea, making it very safe and secured for users.
where did you find out about the casino site? you should know that the casino has a bad reputation and even has many fraud allegations on the forum. I don't think you need to use and do KYC at the casino.
Moreover, we can get Casino with the additional 2FA authentication procedure at other better casinos. it doesn't address hacking. because what is hacked may not be your casino account, but the wallet from the casino where the money is stored.
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June 11, 2023, 07:12:46 AM
Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
I've seen people complaining about the same thing as well where the casino preached to be KYC-free but then asked for KYC, but that case is different because if a casino isn't saying anything about KYC and then asks you to verify yourself, it means that they have it in their terms and conditions but you didn't read them, a lot of people don't like reading terms and conditions because they find it boring or tiring which is why they get in trouble later on.

One should read the rules, terms and conditions, and frequently asked questions before they go ahead and make a deposit at a casino, if they are not satisfied with the rules of the platform, they should not gamble with them at all instead of complaining later.
There are many such gamblers who do not read the terms and conditions of gambling platform before registration. But when they face any kind of problems at the end of gambling, they have complaints about various things. Which is considered baseless in most cases. A gambler is not interested in reading the terms and conditions of his gambling platform where the problems are created. KYC is mandatory or not that is well mentioned in every casino. When a gambler does not follow those terms and instead brings up his complaints to the casino platform support, those issues are reported to him. Then he realized what was wrong. If every gambler tries to carefully read the terms and conditions before registration then KYC issues will be solved properly.
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June 11, 2023, 04:05:45 AM
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AFAIK, most of the reputable casinos/services cooperate with third party services whose main job is to verify users identities. All documents are being redirected to those third party's servers.
Those services are bind by laws to never disclose user's data. Personalty, I consider them to be more trusted than any online service.

Yeah. Most of the casino that I do KYC used 3rd party KYC services to collect my ID and verify. I manage to do KYC on Duelbits, Blackjack.fun and Stake, all of them is not collecting data personally so I agree with you that reputable casino is very serious on handling KYC verification of their customers since they are obligated by AML policy to the that.

But I encounter some casino that let you submit documents through their email. I didn’t do this kind of process and it happened few years ago when centralized casino is just starting.
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