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June 11, 2023, 03:35:19 AM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

Now there are so many different casinos and gambling services that there are a lot of scam out of them. We can't trust everyone. And by sending them their documents to pass the KYC, no one is immune from the fact that the owners of the service did not steal a copy of it: passport, driver's license. I believe only in big services that have proven their reputation, and I believe that there is no need to look for other services. You will only waste time studying them, and most likely they are a scam.

At the same time, if you have decided for sure that you will upload your documents to the service, then it is better to do it right away. And not during the withdrawal of the first profit, because at this moment the service really likes not to make a positive decision on the KYC.
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June 10, 2023, 06:35:02 PM
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AFAIK, most of the reputable casinos/services cooperate with third party services whose main job is to verify users identities. All documents are being redirected to those third party's servers.
Those services are bind by laws to never disclose user's data. Personalty, I consider them to be more trusted than any online service.
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June 10, 2023, 06:27:11 PM
Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.


I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.



It is not right to assume that the data is not secure.  The platform will try its best to secure the data but as we all know there is no 100% assurance that the security of the data cannot be breached, but it is wrong to 100% assume that the data are not being secured by the company responsible for keeping the data secured.

Stating that the data is not secured simply tells the readers that the company is not doing its job in securing the data.  We can assume that there are possibilities of leakage but it does not come easily especially when a company is dedicated in securing their users data.
Weather or not the data are secured I border less since I do everything possible within my powers to avoid any casino that are not reliable to hold my data and as a matter of fact I make sure that I keep my deposits and withdrawal amount within the stated limit amount and that is ok for me instead risk my data, most of the reputable casinos we have around mostly don't ask for KYC documents unless if the account is suspected.,  but if a player doesncommitsmit any offence and followed the rules of the casino it will become easy for him to play without having any problems.
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June 10, 2023, 04:39:34 PM
Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.


I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.


It is not right to assume that the data is not secure.  The platform will try its best to secure the data but as we all know there is no 100% assurance that the security of the data cannot be breached, but it is wrong to 100% assume that the data are not being secured by the company responsible for keeping the data secured.

Stating that the data is not secured simply tells the readers that the company is not doing its job in securing the data.  We can assume that there are possibilities of leakage but it does not come easily especially when a company is dedicated in securing their users data.
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June 10, 2023, 04:05:48 PM
Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.


I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.
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June 10, 2023, 10:40:13 AM
Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.

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June 10, 2023, 07:13:18 AM
Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
I've seen people complaining about the same thing as well where the casino preached to be KYC-free but then asked for KYC, but that case is different because if a casino isn't saying anything about KYC and then asks you to verify yourself, it means that they have it in their terms and conditions but you didn't read them, a lot of people don't like reading terms and conditions because they find it boring or tiring which is why they get in trouble later on.

One should read the rules, terms and conditions, and frequently asked questions before they go ahead and make a deposit at a casino, if they are not satisfied with the rules of the platform, they should not gamble with them at all instead of complaining later.
I see your point and sympathize with the frustration you've expressed. The practice of introducing KYC suddenly at the withdrawal stage is indeed questionable, and I concur that transparency is vital in such situations.

However, as tedious as it may be, due diligence falls on the user too. Every casino has its terms and conditions, albeit cloaked in convoluted jargon, it is there for us to understand their modus operandi.

It's akin to signing a contract without reading it, which is risky business in any scenario. An informed player is a safe player. So, let's put on our reading glasses and tackle those T&Cs like they're going out of style!
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June 10, 2023, 02:38:01 AM
What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.
That's why we have to check every casino we find so we can select it and add it to our personal list. The casino has given the rules for doing KYC and if it is a trusted casino, we can be calm about doing KYC at the casino because they will try to take good care of it.

But if it's a new site asking all its newly joined members to KYC immediately, we can skip that first. Later, after we can find reviews about the casino and it turns out that the casino is one of the people's recommendations, we can consider joining or skipping it.

By doing KYC at a trusted casino, we don't need to worry. But we must still be careful about sending personal documents and checking them first.
Generally, it is on our side how to determine if that site can be trusted to keep our personal data safe, otherwise, skip it.
So many casinos are existing these days and not all have the kind of security that we look for that is why thorough research is vital and so when asking for KYC. Definitely, will be asking ourselves"IF I have to do it or NOT" because trust doesn't just easy to create when doubts are in our mind. KYC is easy when we are sure that we are handling it over to the people/casino that assures safety on it.
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June 09, 2023, 10:54:10 PM
Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
I've seen people complaining about the same thing as well where the casino preached to be KYC-free but then asked for KYC, but that case is different because if a casino isn't saying anything about KYC and then asks you to verify yourself, it means that they have it in their terms and conditions but you didn't read them, a lot of people don't like reading terms and conditions because they find it boring or tiring which is why they get in trouble later on.

One should read the rules, terms and conditions, and frequently asked questions before they go ahead and make a deposit at a casino, if they are not satisfied with the rules of the platform, they should not gamble with them at all instead of complaining later.
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June 09, 2023, 12:29:48 PM
I do not trust any casino that the data is safe, if nothing else the exchanges are capable of giving our data if they are asked for it, an easier casino that can give them because they are games of chance, it is easier for them to be attacked by governments and their enemies, it is very easy for these data to be transferred, that is why we have to be quite suspicious at all times, and that does not mean that casinos are bad or that they are thieves, but that they do not We know what problems they may face and even possible hacks, which is something they cannot control sometimes.
The important thing is that we can always be careful when playing gambling and not play gambling at suspicious casinos to avoid getting into trouble. If we already have a trusted casino on our list, we should always use that casino to play gambling because the casino will take good care of its customers. And if we are asked to do KYC, the data we send will also be properly guarded because trusted casinos always try to provide security for all of their members. So we can be calm and don't need to worry because the casino will do its best to protect the data of its members. And they will also make sure the security is always updated.

Why is it that we are always lazy in finding what we want, if we are good about using a KYC casino then we can always settles for that but get ready in providing them with the required and nece information as requested each time, if we think about using a casino that will bot request for KYC then we can engage more on searching for one till we finds, because there's no guarantee that we will have our privacy secured with any KYC casino or gambling platforms.

You are right! We can't do anything about that. If the house is asking for KYC and you provide your information, it's just simply saying that you are entrusting those personal data and letting the house to know you deeper. If you don't want to risk better not to comply, but if you are sure that you can trust the owner, it's still your decision to make and no one can control you about this matter.
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June 09, 2023, 10:55:06 AM
What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.
No matter how much reputed the casino is they can't guarantee that any of the details given by their customers will not be exposed because we all knew that anything that's uploaded into the internet is vulnerable to hack so when we are ready for KYC compliance then we also have to be ready with the consequences as well. But with the reputed names we can feel that they will have better security in their platform where the attacks from hackers can't do anything. All we can do is hope like no such thing will happen to the website where we completed KYC and it's also important to stick platforms which asks basic details for KYC not too much.
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June 09, 2023, 08:52:53 AM
I do not trust any casino that the data is safe, if nothing else the exchanges are capable of giving our data if they are asked for it, an easier casino that can give them because they are games of chance, it is easier for them to be attacked by governments and their enemies, it is very easy for these data to be transferred, that is why we have to be quite suspicious at all times, and that does not mean that casinos are bad or that they are thieves, but that they do not We know what problems they may face and even possible hacks, which is something they cannot control sometimes.
The important thing is that we can always be careful when playing gambling and not play gambling at suspicious casinos to avoid getting into trouble. If we already have a trusted casino on our list, we should always use that casino to play gambling because the casino will take good care of its customers. And if we are asked to do KYC, the data we send will also be properly guarded because trusted casinos always try to provide security for all of their members. So we can be calm and don't need to worry because the casino will do its best to protect the data of its members. And they will also make sure the security is always updated.

Why is it that we are always lazy in finding what we want, if we are good about using a KYC casino then we can always settles for that but get ready in providing them with the required and nece information as requested each time, if we think about using a casino that will bot request for KYC then we can engage more on searching for one till we finds, because there's no guarantee that we will have our privacy secured with any KYC casino or gambling platforms.
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June 08, 2023, 11:36:00 PM
It's okay what you said, if we don't want to get into trouble with gambling we should just stick to a casino that has a proven track record in cryptocurrency gambling. The one that we have experienced winning and had no problem with withdrawing. Even if we go back and forth in gambling here, it's okay because we are satisfied with it because of the trust we have.
Because if we try with others who are new to this industry, the risk is quite high for sure for us.

The risk are high but worth taking because new casino offer more and better games while they also gives new members bonuses that can be used to our advantage when betting. New casinos mightn't have KYC verification for withdrawal since they're trying to get users.

When gambling on a new casino or sportsbook, you don't have to trust the platform immediately by depositing a big amount. You can start small and make sure everything is working perfectly before you deposit the money you use for your bets, not all new casino are harmful.

If your current casino is okay and doesn't have any complains, also they have a variety of games you can choose to bet on and always update their games with new ones then there's no need to change them because we have so many scam casinos on the internet.
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What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.
That's why we have to check every casino we find so we can select it and add it to our personal list. The casino has given the rules for doing KYC and if it is a trusted casino, we can be calm about doing KYC at the casino because they will try to take good care of it.

But if it's a new site asking all its newly joined members to KYC immediately, we can skip that first. Later, after we can find reviews about the casino and it turns out that the casino is one of the people's recommendations, we can consider joining or skipping it.

By doing KYC at a trusted casino, we don't need to worry. But we must still be careful about sending personal documents and checking them first.
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June 08, 2023, 08:32:24 PM
What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.

Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
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June 08, 2023, 05:42:10 PM

It's okay what you said, if we don't want to get into trouble with gambling we should just stick to a casino that has a proven track record in cryptocurrency gambling. The one that we have experienced winning and had no problem with withdrawing. Even if we go back and forth in gambling here, it's okay because we are satisfied with it because of the trust we have.
Because if we try with others who are new to this industry, the risk is quite high for sure for us.
Yes and aside from sticking to the casinos with track record for the safety of our data, we must also have it at the back of our minds to constantly play on decentralized casinos or those that are 100% KYC free if we can.
That way we will not have any reason tosupplye our KYC documents at any point and if we only play on that casino then there won't be any possible data linkage.

There's nothing like sticking to a particular gambling platform as long as they are using an online wallet custodial means to have our wallet they creates, take our personal informations on their KYC system, there's no gow we can't be sure that they will not use them against us later in life, so it's either you opt in for a KYC casino or a no KYC casino and get decentralized, if not we stand the same risk with those using any form of centralized exchanges or kyc casinos and our informations remained unsafe with them always irregardless of how long we've been loyal in using them.
Like we all know that many of these casinos are prone to hacking and we don't know there level of safe using KYC casinos where our information can be manipulated and when things get so devastating, our information could leaked to the hands of the bad people and they can use it against our will which is enough reason why we need to be extraordinary careful about the way post our information online  leaving it there at anytime to be used against us.

 Those who knows more about data manipulation who attest to this and manners which our data can be used. Sometimes our data can be sold to third parties for there various reasons that can be dubious or strictly for business.
All the possibilities is there which there's no exemption whether its a gambling site or an exchange platform which these places or platforms are really that susceptible when it comes to hacks and exploits on

which on the time that you do sent out those information and been kept by any platform then considered out for those things to be leaked already. If you could be able to bare up such risks and condition
then go ahead and stick with it but if you do really value much about your privacy then its better to skip out and find for another things or places which doesnt ask out for those information.
In overall or in todays standard on which every centralized platforms could really potentially be asked out such things which leaving us no choice.
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What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.
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June 08, 2023, 04:52:25 PM

It's okay what you said, if we don't want to get into trouble with gambling we should just stick to a casino that has a proven track record in cryptocurrency gambling. The one that we have experienced winning and had no problem with withdrawing. Even if we go back and forth in gambling here, it's okay because we are satisfied with it because of the trust we have.
Because if we try with others who are new to this industry, the risk is quite high for sure for us.
Yes and aside from sticking to the casinos with track record for the safety of our data, we must also have it at the back of our minds to constantly play on decentralized casinos or those that are 100% KYC free if we can.
That way we will not have any reason tosupplye our KYC documents at any point and if we only play on that casino then there won't be any possible data linkage.

There's nothing like sticking to a particular gambling platform as long as they are using an online wallet custodial means to have our wallet they creates, take our personal informations on their KYC system, there's no gow we can't be sure that they will not use them against us later in life, so it's either you opt in for a KYC casino or a no KYC casino and get decentralized, if not we stand the same risk with those using any form of centralized exchanges or kyc casinos and our informations remained unsafe with them always irregardless of how long we've been loyal in using them.
Like we all know that many of these casinos are prone to hacking and we don't know there level of safe using KYC casinos where our information can be manipulated and when things get so devastating, our information could leaked to the hands of the bad people and they can use it against our will which is enough reason why we need to be extraordinary careful about the way post our information online  leaving it there at anytime to be used against us.

 Those who knows more about data manipulation who attest to this and manners which our data can be used. Sometimes our data can be sold to third parties for there various reasons that can be dubious or strictly for business.
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June 08, 2023, 04:31:20 PM
I do not trust any casino that the data is safe, if nothing else the exchanges are capable of giving our data if they are asked for it, an easier casino that can give them because they are games of chance, it is easier for them to be attacked by governments and their enemies, it is very easy for these data to be transferred, that is why we have to be quite suspicious at all times, and that does not mean that casinos are bad or that they are thieves, but that they do not We know what problems they may face and even possible hacks, which is something they cannot control sometimes.
As the popularity of the Internet has increased the crimes related to it have increased as well, now this would not be as problematic if this was still like in the early days of the internet boom and people still remained relatively anonymous in almost all their interactions.

But now almost any website requires that you identify yourself, use your email account or give them your phone number at minimum to provide you their services, and this means hackers not only have all the time in the world to hack them, but now the incentive they have for doing so has increased in a disproportionate fashion.

It barely happens when hackers compromise the security of a platform only to get user data instead of taking out money, I know that data is way more valuable than money in today's world but it is also not an easy job to sell that data and get a lot of money, so most hackers don't look for that and they target vulnerable platform that they can hack into so that they can get a lot of money easily.

This is the reason why most platforms concentrate on tighter securities only to safeguard their funds and they don't really care that much about the data being extremely secure or not because they know that if there is an attack, it will mostly be for the money they have.
If KYC documents like passwords are stored in encryption method, these reasons of fear can be removed.  It is true that personal documents are more valuable than money.  But that personal documentary is required to keep the money safe.  Due to which kyc has become a regular topic to use on all digital platforms. When a platform verifies a user's documents, it is the platform's responsibility to provide security for those documents. and if they can be accessed by someone else for some reason, the platform is fully responsible for that

The end point still remains on how you trust the site, it's your personal choice if you think that the business is well-established and the people behind can be trusted as responsible, then going to proceed and allow the site to keep those important personal information. But if you still have the doubt, it will be a hard one to decide as it's a matter of security and by knowing what can you lose if exploit with your data happen still have a big weight when thinking and deciding regarding to this matter.

What you say is true, a player decides and in the end they have the word and the decision , if they decide to deliver their KYC it is up to them, but for the rest they look for themselves almost as they are decentralized , but there is nothing that can be done, I have searched casinos that are good but they all ask for KYC, the most important casinos of all have KYC requirements , I did not hesitate to leave my kyc in duelbits , but it is the casino that gives me confidence , I know that many talk about the largest casinos from the forum , but what I liked about duelbits is that when I submitted kyc I didn't realize when I was approved , I just did it and everything was fine or Faith for me something traumatic , those who Decide to be in centralized casinos and who are good have to do kyc.
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June 08, 2023, 11:17:49 AM
I do not trust any casino that the data is safe, if nothing else the exchanges are capable of giving our data if they are asked for it, an easier casino that can give them because they are games of chance, it is easier for them to be attacked by governments and their enemies, it is very easy for these data to be transferred, that is why we have to be quite suspicious at all times, and that does not mean that casinos are bad or that they are thieves, but that they do not We know what problems they may face and even possible hacks, which is something they cannot control sometimes.
As the popularity of the Internet has increased the crimes related to it have increased as well, now this would not be as problematic if this was still like in the early days of the internet boom and people still remained relatively anonymous in almost all their interactions.

But now almost any website requires that you identify yourself, use your email account or give them your phone number at minimum to provide you their services, and this means hackers not only have all the time in the world to hack them, but now the incentive they have for doing so has increased in a disproportionate fashion.

It barely happens when hackers compromise the security of a platform only to get user data instead of taking out money, I know that data is way more valuable than money in today's world but it is also not an easy job to sell that data and get a lot of money, so most hackers don't look for that and they target vulnerable platform that they can hack into so that they can get a lot of money easily.

This is the reason why most platforms concentrate on tighter securities only to safeguard their funds and they don't really care that much about the data being extremely secure or not because they know that if there is an attack, it will mostly be for the money they have.
If KYC documents like passwords are stored in encryption method, these reasons of fear can be removed.  It is true that personal documents are more valuable than money.  But that personal documentary is required to keep the money safe.  Due to which kyc has become a regular topic to use on all digital platforms. When a platform verifies a user's documents, it is the platform's responsibility to provide security for those documents. and if they can be accessed by someone else for some reason, the platform is fully responsible for that

The end point still remains on how you trust the site, it's your personal choice if you think that the business is well-established and the people behind can be trusted as responsible, then going to proceed and allow the site to keep those important personal information. But if you still have the doubt, it will be a hard one to decide as it's a matter of security and by knowing what can you lose if exploit with your data happen still have a big weight when thinking and deciding regarding to this matter.
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