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Topic: Is lack of proof a problem for you or not? - page 2. (Read 885 times)

legendary
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An online casino can have all the truthful documents, all the licenses and still be able to scam people, nothing limits it, they can get those licenses, whatever that does not mean is that it is an impediment, the evidence? No, the proof is given by time, reputation, all this has to influence someone, the one who wants to do things well, knows that it will cost a lot of money, effort, time, dedication, we only look at the ways that there are reliable casinos and they have a high reputation in the forum, they went through a lot of things to get to that level, because they are casinos that are accepted worldwide and are very successful, in fact they will continue to be so if they continue doing things well and therefore legal Even so, there are people or trolls who invent everything to make money I think the gaming industry is the one that makes the most money compared to many other businesses.
hero member
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What really bothers me in some casino is to have no provably fair games. It's ok to have some games from operators that don't implement provable fairness, but to have no games with provable fairness is crazy. At least casinos should make some effort to provide such games.

As of proof of registration with an license provider or state agency. I couldn't care less. Yes, it's generally good to have something, but the best casinos I've played online started without licenses or at least with low trust licenses. What matters most is the reliability of the service I get. Good support, solid rules, fast website and withdrawals. These matter more. If a casino has been running for years without scam accusations then it's good in my eyes, more over looking for details in its license.
Provably fairness is what matter the most or something that should be the main important thing to have, we wont really be seeing a casino that be flocked in if they werent that fair in the first place.

It would really be just that understandable that if there are tons of players then you could already generalize that you are on the right place.
It would really be just that a matter of choice whether which one of those legit places you would really be that staying up.

Lack of proof? Simply the demand will really be a solid proof for you to consider because if they would really be doing shady business then it would be
impossible that there's no one would really be able to verify it out.
legendary
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What really bothers me in some casino is to have no provably fair games. It's ok to have some games from operators that don't implement provable fairness, but to have no games with provable fairness is crazy. At least casinos should make some effort to provide such games.

As of proof of registration with an license provider or state agency. I couldn't care less. Yes, it's generally good to have something, but the best casinos I've played online started without licenses or at least with low trust licenses. What matters most is the reliability of the service I get. Good support, solid rules, fast website and withdrawals. These matter more. If a casino has been running for years without scam accusations then it's good in my eyes, more over looking for details in its license.
hero member
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Know what's better for everyone of us. The proofs will push us to quickly believes the system and also know what we needs. We have to spot out the challenges we're facing and also made provision for the solid answers to our problems. We can become problem solvers in the system, its not a difficult state to hang around, does it? Reviews will determined the purpose of the casino and I'm pretty aware of the system and how it can changed our lives for the best.
But with that, we have to determine the good and bad reviews.

Because in modern times, we see that reviews can also be bought to impact the view of other potential customers. And this is a cheat that many casinos did and are still doing.

We don't know how many of the new ones are doing this and we don't have numbers but it is for sure that this is done and it's no trade secret.
Thats very correct and you would be surprised yourself if actually the accurate numbers were to be given about casino that actually pay for reviews under their casinos. 

Some of these casinos are not up to the standard and for some reasons they pay for the reviews on their reputable to be solid and this has been one of the reasons many gamblers rush to play on casinos because they haven't verified their authentic but gamblers still chose to play
And with those, we need to be careful of them. Those that have been long in the community together with crypto and gambling, you can have that sense of factors if they're paid reviews or not.

Or if the casino is lying with their numbers which most of the new ones can easily be figured out because they're new to it and as if the community can easily be fooled with their reasonings and projections.
sr. member
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People's feed back is somewhat a good factor when I check an online casino. Overall, it may not be a good factor as there can be a lot of lapses if it is about licensing ans what not.

But about licensing, it is a must for most operational casinos. Some may be starters and beginners and all they do is test out if the business will trend or not. But if it does then they sure will have to comply as most countries if it is about regulations are quite strict.
Know what's better for everyone of us. The proofs will push us to quickly believes the system and also know what we needs. We have to spot out the challenges we're facing and also made provision for the solid answers to our problems. We can become problem solvers in the system, its not a difficult state to hang around, does it? Reviews will determined the purpose of the casino and I'm pretty aware of the system and how it can changed our lives for the best.
But with that, we have to determine the good and bad reviews.

Because in modern times, we see that reviews can also be bought to impact the view of other potential customers. And this is a cheat that many casinos did and are still doing.

We don't know how many of the new ones are doing this and we don't have numbers but it is for sure that this is done and it's no trade secret.
Thats very correct and you would be surprised yourself if actually the accurate numbers were to be given about casino that actually pay for reviews under their casinos.  

Some of these casinos are not up to the standard and for some reasons they pay for the reviews on their reputable to be solid and this has been one of the reasons many gamblers rush to play on casinos because they haven't verified their authentic but gamblers still chose to play

When it comes to various information then its true that it could be faked out or something that be manipulative but it would really be impossible that you cant really be able to notice out if theres something odd happening.

This is why on the moment that you are having those doubts in regarding into those positive reviews, then you could really always be having that kind of option on asking out the community specially if its a crypto based platform then you could always make out some queries or verification ex. this forum, would really be the sweetest place that you could be able to do so.

Informations could really be that misleading or something that could be bought or false, this is why it would really be ideal that you should really be doing further step
if you are really that highly in doubt and having that kind of hesitance on a specific site or platform.
hero member
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People's feed back is somewhat a good factor when I check an online casino. Overall, it may not be a good factor as there can be a lot of lapses if it is about licensing ans what not.

But about licensing, it is a must for most operational casinos. Some may be starters and beginners and all they do is test out if the business will trend or not. But if it does then they sure will have to comply as most countries if it is about regulations are quite strict.
Know what's better for everyone of us. The proofs will push us to quickly believes the system and also know what we needs. We have to spot out the challenges we're facing and also made provision for the solid answers to our problems. We can become problem solvers in the system, its not a difficult state to hang around, does it? Reviews will determined the purpose of the casino and I'm pretty aware of the system and how it can changed our lives for the best.
But with that, we have to determine the good and bad reviews.

Because in modern times, we see that reviews can also be bought to impact the view of other potential customers. And this is a cheat that many casinos did and are still doing.

We don't know how many of the new ones are doing this and we don't have numbers but it is for sure that this is done and it's no trade secret.
Thats very correct and you would be surprised yourself if actually the accurate numbers were to be given about casino that actually pay for reviews under their casinos. 

Some of these casinos are not up to the standard and for some reasons they pay for the reviews on their reputable to be solid and this has been one of the reasons many gamblers rush to play on casinos because they haven't verified their authentic but gamblers still chose to play
hero member
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People's feed back is somewhat a good factor when I check an online casino. Overall, it may not be a good factor as there can be a lot of lapses if it is about licensing ans what not.

But about licensing, it is a must for most operational casinos. Some may be starters and beginners and all they do is test out if the business will trend or not. But if it does then they sure will have to comply as most countries if it is about regulations are quite strict.
Know what's better for everyone of us. The proofs will push us to quickly believes the system and also know what we needs. We have to spot out the challenges we're facing and also made provision for the solid answers to our problems. We can become problem solvers in the system, its not a difficult state to hang around, does it? Reviews will determined the purpose of the casino and I'm pretty aware of the system and how it can changed our lives for the best.
But with that, we have to determine the good and bad reviews.

Because in modern times, we see that reviews can also be bought to impact the view of other potential customers. And this is a cheat that many casinos did and are still doing.

We don't know how many of the new ones are doing this and we don't have numbers but it is for sure that this is done and it's no trade secret.
legendary
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I usually avoid shady businesses and this includes casinos. OP asked if lack of proof is a problem, so I'll answer with a question.
Is lack of transparency a problem? Should it be?
IMO it should be a problem to all of us, because why lie about something that's easy to obtain? If they're lying about that, imagine what will happen when they get hacked or close to bankruptcy. They'll never tell you and delay withdrawals, so my advice is cut ties with businesses that lie and hide small things because they will surely do the same with big ones.
legendary
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I believe it depends on the age of the platform mostly. If a casino platform has been around for years, has been operating very well within the industry and has a good reputation, I wouldn't be bothered or even ask questions such as whether it's regulated or licensed or not because if I'm getting what I need, why ask unnecessary questions?

However, the same can't be said for platforms that are relatively new and don't have much reputation within the gambling community. For such platforms, one might be concerned whether they will keep operating for long or not or whether they will create trouble for them or not if they are using large amounts of money for gambling.
sr. member
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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

In terms of reducing scams or being minimized, yes it's a good start to see casinos being licensed.

Just think of it, are you willing to play in an online casino that doesn't show the legitimacy of your business? Yes, it might not be an assurance that they won't do some dirty work in the future but likely they won't consider doing that kind of bad stuff since the whole identity of the people running the site is exposed once they apply for a license.

Real people's feedback/review + licensed casinos = should be one of the priorities to look at before using a casino
hero member
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You must do your homework to be the brightest player at the table. Any big successes promised but kept secret? A loser move. Imagine running a beautiful restaurant without advertising your cuisine. Not logical, right? A casino must have documents to show its legitimacy. Licenses help, but I want third-party audits, user evaluations, everything. That separates winners and losers. No proof? Walk away. Just simple sense. Unverified casinos crush my gears. They're disgracing the industry. Imagine reputable companies hiding their credentials. Chaos! To safeguard oneself and others who follow the rules. We must fight scammers and help players make informed decisions. This is smart business and the proper thing to do.
hero member
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People's feed back is somewhat a good factor when I check an online casino. Overall, it may not be a good factor as there can be a lot of lapses if it is about licensing ans what not.

But about licensing, it is a must for most operational casinos. Some may be starters and beginners and all they do is test out if the business will trend or not. But if it does then they sure will have to comply as most countries if it is about regulations are quite strict.
Know what's better for everyone of us. The proofs will push us to quickly believes the system and also know what we needs. We have to spot out the challenges we're facing and also made provision for the solid answers to our problems. We can become problem solvers in the system, its not a difficult state to hang around, does it? Reviews will determined the purpose of the casino and I'm pretty aware of the system and how it can changed our lives for the best.
hero member
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License-wise, as long as they have it then I basically would be willing to play in it. Sadly I usually only play on ones that are reviewed positively by a pretty sizeable group. I usually scour review sites, forums, and even the casino's internal user forums if they have one and read about their user experience. The pre requisite to me doing this basically is the license OP is asking about.

While it's not much in terms of responsibility, at least it's something. I've seen other casinos with licenses that turned out to being a scam after all, but at the very least, it's like a sort of level 1 kind of KYC, but in this case it's for the casino side. 
copper member
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

The transparency and legitimacy of online casinos are crucial, not just for the players’ peace of mind but also for the industry’s reputation. Honestly, I do make an effort to verify the legitimacy of online casinos by looking for their licensing information, which reputable casinos typically display on their websites. This includes their licensing authority and license number. Additionally, I look for reviews and feedback from other players and check out gambling forums for any red flags.

Yes, the lack of proof of regulation definitely bothers me. It’s a big red flag if a casino can’t or won’t provide evidence of its licensing. This opacity can indeed open the door to scams and unethical practices, leaving players vulnerable.
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A license is not a guarantee, but it does give you some degree of comfort. With how malleable things are in this world today, what you see is not always what you get.

It seems that the legality of the previous license can be ascertained. Usually, casinos have a list of licenses prominently displayed on their website, however, going the extra mile in this case is highly recommended. For example, there is a database where one can verify licenses, and regularly looking at reviews can also be educational.

The choice will always be yours. In case you are comfortable with a particular gambling establishment and don't have any trouble playing there then everything is fine. However, for individuals who value security above all else, taking the extra time to review a casino's legitimacy, read reviews, and verify their license before depositing can benefit.
hero member
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People's feed back is somewhat a good factor when I check an online casino. Overall, it may not be a good factor as there can be a lot of lapses if it is about licensing ans what not.

But about licensing, it is a must for most operational casinos. Some may be starters and beginners and all they do is test out if the business will trend or not. But if it does then they sure will have to comply as most countries if it is about regulations are quite strict.
hero member
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There are still some sites that already licensed but ended up on scamming out their users. There are cheap licenses out there. I dont know if there are already some scam sites that
been caught and prisoned out their owners specially to those licensed ones. We do know that this market is really that decentralized whenever a platform or company would really be deciding
to become scam. For those who are that totally no license then they are really that truly anonymous and there's no chance that you would really be taking up those funds back,
not unless if they would be deciding on giving it back which it is really that an unlikely thing to happen. We do know that tons of scams that exist into this market and
this is why we should really be that observant and we should really be that careful on choosing on which platforms that we do tend to engage or play on.

Afaik license is not cheap including the initial cost of having a fully operational casino software. Some casino turn into scam only here in the forum but they are still operational and promoting somewhere outside the forum scope.

Clear example here is 1xbit, coins.game and many more which the casino is still operational after being branded as scam since they need to use their license and casino to recover their initial cost on acquiring it. Unless if at least a 100K is cheap then you’re right. I’m pertaining to casino with sportsbook, slot games and live casino here.
But initially everyone will use their respective licenses to gain confidence that they have been officially registered and are not gambling sites that operate illegally, it just that all of this is not cheap and costs lot.
From here, when they fail to develop well and cannot keep up with the increasingly fierce competition in the gambling business, some of these sites enter condition where there is crisis in income and the potential for bankruptcy.
Only way they take is to commit various frauds on all customers and manipulate every game that is provided, this is clearly something that is very detrimental to gamblers.
For here in the forum, I think the scam gambling sites have really been suppressed and cannot carry out any promotions anymore, considering that we haven't found them for quite a long time.

Whatever the gambling sites that are currently scams, they all initially had license that they used and it is clear that license will not guarantee anything.
I would always advise any gambler to be more careful and prioritize gambling sites that are clearly well developed and have reputation and more significant progress.
sr. member
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Scammers will not want license and also scammers will not want to advertise..
I do not agree with you on this point, There are scam casinos that are being advertised all over Facebook and google ads, Facebook Especially has no control over the kind of ads run on its platform, that's why people are advised to beware of scam. I've come across those ones with offers for even 500% bonus. They work closely with some alleged prediction masters on Facebook and telegram, and  guess what?, you can only find the game that they predict for you on their casinos and no other one.

The target is for you to deposit into their account, and you'll see the funds reflect in the casino, you stake your games comfortably, after which even if the game wins or loss, you can't withdraw your winnings. Scam casinos does advertise, mostly ads, but their advertising budget is much lower than reputable casinos.
hero member
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

I don't really care about licences and all that stuff for some reason. If a website looks suspicious and not trustworthy, I just don't use it.
What I care about is the so called "proveably fair" stuff they are always advertising.

Sure they say it all super fair and such, but the math often tells a different story. It just doesn't add up for most casino games, especially for the so called "house" games.
I have seen things (losses) several times where the math says this should happen 1 time in a million tries. Yet it happens twice or even 3 times in 1 week. Of course this kind of streak would never win, just always lose.

For that reason I don't play at online casinos, it's hard to wrap my head around these crazy results. I stick with sports bets occasionally, it's harder to manipulate .  Grin
hero member
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Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.
I've not verified the true regulation status of any of the casinos and companies I use. The reason is that it is a whole lot of stress to do that. Nevertheless, you raised a very good point because many companies are not what they say they are. I've witnessed disclaimers where regulators of some countries would disclaim some companies claiming they are regulated by them. This is the world we live in and many casinos will be guilty of this if investigated.

Even at that, those casinos that are truly regulated are regulated by weak regulators, so what is the difference? As long as the casino is a big name with good track and sustainable records, why not continue to deal with them? Especially if they do not treat me badly while dealing with them. It's a risk we are all taking.

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Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?
As said above, it doesn't bother me. This is simple because I go for big names like Stake.com. By that, I've reduced the risk of being duped or treated badly to a limited extent.

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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
Not at all. I've read so many bad reviews about some regulated companies and nothing was done about it. Regulation cannot save us! Some regulated entities cheat, manipulate and even scam their clients. Regulation is not an automatic solution to scam or cheat in gambling and businesses, it is just a way to gain trust in most businesses for more patronage. I wonder what a weak regulator will do in getting justice for the customer in case of issues. We should endeavour to find the casinos that the brains behind them are genuine, have integrity, are professional and reputable on their own, and not because they are regulated.
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