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Quote from: Oilacris on April 06, 2024, 07:18:06 AM

There are still some sites that already licensed but ended up on scamming out their users. There are cheap licenses out there. I dont know if there are already some scam sites that
been caught and prisoned out their owners specially to those licensed ones. We do know that this market is really that decentralized whenever a platform or company would really be deciding
to become scam. For those who are that totally no license then they are really that truly anonymous and there's no chance that you would really be taking up those funds back,
not unless if they would be deciding on giving it back which it is really that an unlikely thing to happen. We do know that tons of scams that exist into this market and
this is why we should really be that observant and we should really be that careful on choosing on which platforms that we do tend to engage or play on.

Afaik license is not cheap including the initial cost of having a fully operational casino software. Some casino turn into scam only here in the forum but they are still operational and promoting somewhere outside the forum scope.

Clear example here is 1xbit, coins.game and many more which the casino is still operational after being branded as scam since they need to use their license and casino to recover their initial cost on acquiring it. Unless if at least a 100K is cheap then you’re right. I’m pertaining to casino with sportsbook, slot games and live casino here.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

There are still some sites that already licensed but ended up on scamming out their users. There are cheap licenses out there. I dont know if there are already some scam sites that
been caught and prisoned out their owners specially to those licensed ones. We do know that this market is really that decentralized whenever a platform or company would really be deciding
to become scam. For those who are that totally no license then they are really that truly anonymous and there's no chance that you would really be taking up those funds back,
not unless if they would be deciding on giving it back which it is really that an unlikely thing to happen. We do know that tons of scams that exist into this market and
this is why we should really be that observant and we should really be that careful on choosing on which platforms that we do tend to engage or play on.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 04, 2024, 06:40:54 AM

I think most of us doesn't care at all, what we look at the casino first is their reputation, if they are popular that means they have a good reputation. However, there are gamblers who are risking serious money, they are just trying to minimize the risk and making sure that once they won, they'll be able to get their money and once the casino tries to scam, they know who scam them as they have license and they can be go after with.

I agree. No one creates a gambling site unless they have the money or a scam. Now, if they are building their reputation through high rollers playing on their website and they've shown a trustworthy effect to everyone who has a connection with them, then I bet it will be an easy task to gain a reputation without the need for proof of money or whatsoever.

The gambling license on the other hand is a good start. Any gambling platform that would want to build a business in this industry would want one first to avoid being questioned in the future. I don't really think it is that hard in this era anymore. With so many gambling sites coming out, I bet they made the requirements easier because this is an industry that is booming. They will make more if they can give out more licenses to many business owners as long as they pass the conditions.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on April 04, 2024, 02:50:05 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

To be honest, I don't really care whether the casino I play at is licensed or not. This is important for some people if they want to try lots of new sites that usually provide big bonuses. But I personally only use one or two sites and I don't like something complicated like creating lots of accounts. One of the casinos I often play at is Duelbits. This is a trusted casino and I have made several withdrawals without any problems. I've also used some other casinos but if it's big money I'll just try playing at Duelbits instead.

I think most of us doesn't care at all, what we look at the casino first is their reputation, if they are popular that means they have a good reputation. However, there are gamblers who are risking serious money, they are just trying to minimize the risk and making sure that once they won, they'll be able to get their money and once the casino tries to scam, they know who scam them as they have license and they can be go after with.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

I have verified all the casinos that I have used for gambling to know if what they claim on their website is trustworthy. When they say they're licensed, they'll have a verification number on their website and you can use that number to confirm their license. Most scam casinos uses others license number or a fake number and it can be verified therefore to reduce the risk of getting scams by casinos, always verify everything that they claim to have done on their website.

It'll bother me if I can't verify how legit a casino is before using it. I don't trust new casino all of a sudden unless they have advertised on the forum and have a good reputation here but still I'll do some research to confirm I'm not using a scam casino. There are many reputable casinos to fall a victim to new casinos. If all casinos can get a license, it'll reduce the rate at how individual are always getting scammed.

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Scammers won't be able to pay for licenses and thats a huge point for me, paying for a license is too costly I don't think that they will want to risk that much money because in the end they might not be able to scam as many people as they want.

Also even if they proceed with a licence they can be prosecuted easily if something go wrong, getting a licensse for a new casino means a tight verification from the regulators, they won't be able to escape it, just like how Sam Bankman ended up in a mess even when he had a lot of backers.

It pays to be good and it pays to be bad, the difference is that what you sow is what you will reap.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

so far I have used several sites on this forum and very rarely try new sites or sites outside this forum even though I can't confirm whether my current favorite casino is truly verified but looking at the huge customer traffic on the one hand it is also running the advertising of the campaign paying large amounts and on time for me was enough to convince me to say that the casino did not have any problems.
Indeed, there may not be any guarantees, but we can all see the popular and biggest casinos here that have been around for a long time, they don't have any problems even though they have never published regarding verification.
maybe I just rely on the reputation of the casinos here to believe that my favorite casino will not commit fraud just to damage its own reputation.

It all comes back to each gambler on how to respond to this matter of license verification because sometimes, even though online sites have been verified, they also make mistakes, destroying their reputation by deceiving customers and most importantly, when it comes to online, nothing is safe except your own self confidence.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

To be honest, I don't really care whether the casino I play at is licensed or not. This is important for some people if they want to try lots of new sites that usually provide big bonuses. But I personally only use one or two sites and I don't like something complicated like creating lots of accounts. One of the casinos I often play at is Duelbits. This is a trusted casino and I have made several withdrawals without any problems. I've also used some other casinos but if it's big money I'll just try playing at Duelbits instead.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Most crypto casinos have gambling licenses issued in Curacao mostly because they are cheap and the gambling regulations there are extremely liberal(almost non-existent). To be honest, it doesn't matter that much to me, if a casino is licensed or not. Maybe some of the gambling noobs want to gamble on licensed casinos, because this gives them a false sense of security, but I've seen licensed casinos that are really sketchy. I definitely don't think that gambling licenses can reduce the amount of scams in online gambling. Just bet small amounts and gamble for fun, not for chasing big profits.

Licenses isnt everything in speaking about legitimacy because even despite on having those license but doesnt mean that you are dealing something or in the right place. There would really be those possibilities
that those licensed casinos would really be turning out to be a scam in the end or does depend on what are their intents on which it would really be something that could happen.
Just like on what others been saying that there are some sites now that having no license but still that mainly been recognized by the whole crypto community on which this one indicates that
licenses isnt 100% an assured factor for you to see up on dealing on the site or something that we can call for it to be legit.

Somehow it would really be that a very common impressions that once a site does have that kind of license which means that they do have some sort of security or feeling of assurance
whenever the site would really be trying out to do bullshit things. So it would really be just that depending on you on where you would really be sticking up.
On my own preference then i would usually be sticking on where those tons of people do really been hanging out.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Most crypto casinos have gambling licenses issued in Curacao mostly because they are cheap and the gambling regulations there are extremely liberal(almost non-existent). To be honest, it doesn't matter that much to me, if a casino is licensed or not. Maybe some of the gambling noobs want to gamble on licensed casinos, because this gives them a false sense of security, but I've seen licensed casinos that are really sketchy. I definitely don't think that gambling licenses can reduce the amount of scams in online gambling. Just bet small amounts and gamble for fun, not for chasing big profits.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

For regular players like us, it is very difficult to ask the casino to prove whether they have an operating license or not. There are dozens of players, they can't vouch for each one. And do you know whether the documents they show you are legitimate or not? We can only check ourselves through the official websites of licensing regulators. Each country has a specific authority that regulates the licensing of online casinos. For example, in the UK it is the Gaming Classification Authority that manages the licensing and regulation of online casinos. Besides, reading reviews and feedback from previous players can help you get an overview of that casino.

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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Having an operating license can partially reduce scams. However, casinos have many ways to circumvent the law as well as sophisticated tricks to openly cheat that you cannot predict. Therefore, whether or not there is an operating license is only a small factor in assessing the reputation of a casino. The most objective assessment should mostly come from real players.

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Quote from: wakier on April 03, 2024, 08:21:21 AM

As long as the site doesn't have problems with withdrawing money and there are no problems with the gambling site, I don't care whether the gambling site has been verified or not, but what is clear is that I always use casinos that have a good reputation so that we don't take any risks. Indeed there are several casinos that do it can lead to fraud if we are not careful, but if we have found a trusted site and are confident in it, we don't need to change sites anymore rather than having to risk losing the money we save at the casino.

It would be better if we could avoid the risk if we already know that the site has a problem, because when we gamble on a site that has problems, of course we will not be able to enjoy winnings from the bets we play, of course this will be detrimental to ourselves and Indeed, it would be better for us to continue to trust a site that can make it easier for us to deposit funds or withdraw funds so that we can enjoy the game and have fun, because if we have problems in these two things, of course this will make us feel annoyed when playing it.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on April 03, 2024, 09:05:53 AM

I think it’s always something to be concerned about about in some way shape or form. I think if you weren’t concerned about these types of things than there might be something a bit wrong with one’s approach to online gambling. But the main thing for me is proven experience/time. A lot of these casinos have been operating for many years with very few complaints and to me that speaks volumes.

That's right, of course we really need to make sure that the site we play on can pay the winnings that we have gotten and don't let it happen that when we have won they don't pay the winnings that we have gotten and casinos that have been operating for years of course they don't have a bad history and they can always meet the needs of people who want to place bets on their site and make them comfortable choosing to bet on that site.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

That's a good question. I guess most of the people don't bother to go and find out if the gambling site they gamble on is legit or not.
Even I haven't made such efforts to verify the gambling site. I just prefer to gamble on sites which have a good reputation.
I consider reputation to be the most important factor for a site to rely on.

Yes, most gamblers only want an online gambling site that has a good reputation, in my opinion that is enough. And also having good reviews can help ensure that the site is really good, and I think those two factors are the most important.
Actually, to ensure whether the online gambling site is licensed
Whether it is legal or not is actually easy if we really want to do it. And we can visit the gambling authority site that issues the license and look for the name of the online casino site that we want to use, whether it is legal or not. But most gamblers don't want that, and they just want a reputable online gambling site that is enough.

If a gambling site has good reputation then it will automatically have good reviews. It need not be two separate things.
Hence a gambling site with good reputation would be the ideal choice for most of the gamblers.
Earning good reputation is a lengthy process of providing good services and user experience to the users.
That itself is a big deal which many sites cannot fulfill.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on April 03, 2024, 07:03:21 AM

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It is true that it may be difficult for us to see evidence that the casino platform is truly regulated, but even so, that is not a reason for us to suspect whether the casino platform is truly regulated or not. As long as they include an image that references their license code and we can check it on the regulatory website, then I think it's pretty trustworthy. And it can also be strengthened by people's reviews and other users' experiences when using the platform - and that is more than enough for me.

It is not difficult if you want to know if a casino or gambling center is well registered or licensed because, if you go through their website you will surely find all their documents that guarantee that the casino or gambling center is legal.

If you can watch some casino or gambling center very well, you will discover that some people prefer to gamble in some casinos or gambling center because, all the details they want to know about the casinos or gambling center has be confirmed that the casino or gambling center is well registered from their country and their government is fully aware about such casinos or gambling center.

Documents isnt everything, reputation is. We do know that those things could be faked out and also its really that impossible that you cant really be able to see yourself about its reputation or
recognition in just basing up into its user base. Also, you could really easily make out some searches in regards about some possible issues or complaints which it might not been resolved.
Its up to you whether you would really be pushing up on playing on a site with less information or cant be able to see any feedbacks.

Just like on what been said by others is that if you are really that interested on playing on a certain site. Then, you could really be always having that free posting or asking
here on the community on which we know that its always best on seeing and following on what the community is been suggesting, which of course you would really be
needing to see whether those recommendations are viable or not. It would really be just that depending on you.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Usually, most of these gambling websites have a text at the bottom of the website that mentions about their license and when it is being operated. For example, Rollbit has some information about their license and their address:

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Copyright © 2024 rollbit.com. All rights reserved. Rollbit is a brand name of Bull Gaming N.V. Company Address: Abraham de Veerstraat 9, Willemstad, Curacao. Rollbit is licensed and authorized by the Government of Curaçao and operates under the Master License of Gaming Services Provider, N.V. #365/JAZ
Bull Gaming N.V. payments can be processed by WINGAMING SUPPORT LIMITED (Registration Number HE406701). Company Address: Avlonos, 1, MARIA HOUSE, 1075, Nicosia, Cyprus
Crypto trading is not gambling, and therefore not covered by our gaming license

From this, you can have a glimpse of their license and on how they validly operate. For sure, there may be better ways to confirm such information. The best way to actually confirm this is to directly ask their ANN thread on this forum. But if the gambling company has no registered ANN thread, then I highly suggest that you switch to another platform.

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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

I do think that there is a correlation between presenting all of your genuine documents upfront to gambling platforms who hide it.

Most of the genuine gambling platforms have information available as soon as you visit their website. Additionally, you can also check their ANN thread in this forum for further information and questions.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on April 03, 2024, 08:54:57 AM

To verify, you must check their social media and their road maps and check whether they are approved or not. Only if you see everything right then you can go for betting in that casino and get benefits there.

Approved by who? The government? I don't recall seeing a casino platform that publishes a roadmap with government approval tbh. Not to mention it is rare for a casino to have a roadmap unless they launch with a token so they need to find how to utilize that token for their platform. Usually, product announcements just happen with a teaser or some sort instead of a roadmap. At least that is what I saw from some ann threads posted on this forum.

Quote from: Zigabel on April 03, 2024, 08:32:34 AM

In my country of residence, there's actually ba regulator commission In charge of regulating the activities of casinos and making sure they are not fraudulent and are able bro protect the citizens away from been victims of such fraudulent casinos, they have a website where they put out the names of licensed casinos so if you check and couldn't find the name of that which you are using then you can be sure you are Gambling at your risk.

Do they allow overseas businesses to register too, or is it limited to national business? I'd say that the risk here still depends on your chosen platform. Maybe they registered in another country but you can ask for legal help if trouble arises, or just an illegal casino where they use a random building on some fake island as a headquarters. But yeah, it is gambling at your own risk.

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I think it’s always something to be concerned about about in some way shape or form. I think if you weren’t concerned about these types of things than there might be something a bit wrong with one’s approach to online gambling. But the main thing for me is proven experience/time. A lot of these casinos have been operating for many years with very few complaints and to me that speaks volumes.

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Nowadays, many scams and frauds are encountered in the online world and many people fall for these scams without checking. When creating an online casino platform it is never possible to create a casino without government permission from a country, even though many casinos are currently created only illegally. When you deposit your money in casinos that are not licensed and proven by the government, you will surely face many problems later on. So when you play you must check whether the casino is government approved or you must see how good the rating of that platform is. Moreover, it is most important for you to check the people who are in control of the casino and how good the casino is and how many facilities it offers. To verify, you must check their social media and their road maps and check whether they are approved or not. Only if you see everything right then you can go for betting in that casino and get benefits there.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Actually if a casino can prove of being licensed then most likely there's a less chance of been scammed by such a casino because they would have their reputation at stake and tracking them down becomes easy because I'm sure they don't license a faceless business even away from the casinos, if they are license it then . means they are regulated and for every wrong or inappropriate actions they take they could be reported to the regulating body who can actually take actions on them.

In my country of residence, there's actually ba regulator commission In charge of regulating the activities of casinos and making sure they are not fraudulent and are able bro protect the citizens away from been victims of such fraudulent casinos, they have a website where they put out the names of licensed casinos so if you check and couldn't find the name of that which you are using then you can be sure you are Gambling at your risk.

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As long as the site doesn't have problems with withdrawing money and there are no problems with the gambling site, I don't care whether the gambling site has been verified or not, but what is clear is that I always use casinos that have a good reputation so that we don't take any risks. Indeed there are several casinos that do it can lead to fraud if we are not careful, but if we have found a trusted site and are confident in it, we don't need to change sites anymore rather than having to risk losing the money we save at the casino.

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