Is lack of proof a problem for you or not? - page 6.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 01, 2024, 07:30:26 AM

Casinos are running a business based on reputation, if they have a good reputation, gamblers will choose them because gamblers would feel their money are safe and anytime they can withdraw their winnings without a problem. personally, I don't investigate mucn, as long as the casino is popular, and when checked they claim they have a license, I always make it a go to play.

I like this logic when talking about the casino reputation. Many people already forgetting that even a casino has a licensed, they can still turn into scam because they can always use their license to new casino by updating it to license provider.

On the other hand, Casino reputation that built based on trust for so many years is much reliable as basis on trusting a casino because it can’t be fake or achieved for a short period of time. That’s why casino with good reputation for a long time always protects their reputation because it’s very to build it for so many years. Additionally, they spend already a lot of money for marketing just to promote the brand.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

I have not verified if the casino I use is verified because these licences make little or no difference. They would not stop the casino from maltreating gamblers since I have never seen any case where these regulators intervene when gamblers complain of rights violations. I see most of these licences as a means to get money from casinos and nothing more. Licences are mere promotional tools to make gamblers think that these casinos are reputable.

Quote from: Coin_trader on April 01, 2024, 07:07:17 AM

All of the casinos that has a license usually have a license logo on their website which oftentimes position on the bottom part of the casino. It should be clickable and you will direct to the license validation website that match the casino license description.

You are correct that most casinos have the logo of the licensor on their website but some casinos don't have such links therefore lying about their license. There was a recent issue on the forum where a casino claimed they had a license which was untrue.

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Honestly, I never checked the license of one online casino.
I always rely on the players, not the government who provided the license. Why? Because it can still be manipulated and it all can be a fake or they will still scam anyone even with their license.
But those who gained a reputation through different players who tested their gambling sites are different.
If you are a popular one, will you still do something stupid and wreck your business? I highly doubt that. Because first of all, it was not easy to gain that position. It takes time before you can scatter the gospel.
Second, while you are making a lot of money and connection will you still do something stupid like scamming a player just to make a profit? I doubt that too. They can make profits out of the house edge and more players means more losers and more profits for them. I don't think it is small if you gain popularity so they don't need to do scams just for a one-time gain and then lose most of their customers in the process.

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What proof do we still need?

If they state they are regulated and they have a license from "'''''',,, then it's us to verify if that is true, because if we are not convince, then there's no reason to play in a particular casino, that's very simple, right?

Casinos are running a business based on reputation, if they have a good reputation, gamblers will choose them because gamblers would feel their money are safe and anytime they can withdraw their winnings without a problem. personally, I don't investigate mucn, as long as the casino is popular, and when checked they claim they have a license, I always make it a go to play.

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For an old existing that has been in operation for years and have earned a wide range of reputation I fear if gamblers with bother going to the extent of inquiring to verify if they have a proof operational license or not. In the gambling industry trust is everything which is why new casino's despite having a proving license gamblers are still skeptical to make use of them because that trust is what they haven't earned going by their time in the industry.

Although plenty gamblers choose to make use of a license casino as they feel secured using them believing it will be hard to make a scam exit or exhibit certain scam behaviors and actions by licensed casino. And yes, licensing casinos can largely reduce many of the scams we experiencing with online casino.

I had a similar discussion sometime back and there were fascinating replies to the question, maybe some persons would want to read some of those replies too https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63397945

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

All of the casino that has a license usually have a license logo on their website which oftentimes position on the bottom part of the casino. It should be clickable and you will direct to the license validation website that match the casino license description.

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Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Doesn’t matter to me because I only play on the casino that I trusted for a long time but of course casino shouldn’t asked KYC if they are not regulated.

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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

This is proven effective compared to the initial crypto casino industry which a lot of casino turn to scam. Nowadays, only legit businesses is entering crypto casino industry that reduces the scam casino but having a scam a casino will not gonna be avoided 100% because there’s always a scammer in every aspect of business especially online.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

How can you claim these people are experts if they do not know how to check if the license is valid there are ways to check if the license is valid on the license issuer you can verify if the license that you see on the casino is valid and legit.

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My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

The casino has a widget seal that if you click will lead the license issuer to easily verify that the license is legit and valid, you can also ask the license issuer if they issue a license from a casino that claims that they have a license coming from the said issuer.

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Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

If a casino claims that they have a license but they do not display their license certificate you can ask the casino's support to give you the serial number if they decline then they will lose their reputation for lying

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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

License is not a guarantee that the casino will play fair, there are casinos with licenses but they have a lot of scam accusations, so don't just look on license check feedback coming from the users of that casino.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

If you want to know if you are dealing with regulated casino and want to verify them then go here if they claim that they got their licensed from curacao https://www.curacao-egaming.com/public-and-players/authenticity

If still doubting you can able to search their official government handle site to verify your doubts on the company you are referring for.

Also yes I will be bothered if they claim that they are registered but turn out not since that's sign of deceiving people and usually I will statt to doubt then maybe will not play on that casino anymore since I feel that scamming might happen in that casino.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

There's always a possiblity to verify if their license is fake or not. Check who issue the license and then verify that to them. I'm not sure if they show the list but like for example, there's a curacao license provider that is usually used by most casinos we found in the forum, so if they(curacao) have that list you can just easily verify.

And also, if a casino is reputable, they won't put a label that they acquire a license from a certain provider as that is lying, not good for their reputation, so it's not really a big deal, just look for a reputable casino and expec their license are legit.

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If you will just exploring either the website or the application of the casino only then you will see that they are verified and legal, almost all legal websites are displaying their proof of legitimacy in their website, sometimes in the "about us" section of the website or in the lower most part of the website and if you are still not satisfied then read the terms and condition of the specific website or application there you will see if a casino website is legal and illegitimate, you just need to explore more in the website because that's your part in securing a safe and legit website where you will play, you need to do it yourself because you will be the one that will make your gambling experience scammer free. Or there are websites that are dedicated to verifying a certain website; you just need to provide the link to a casino website. Just search the internet and you will find many websites that do that.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

I check if the casino has a license or not, just look for the license icon or icons in the casino and click on it and it will direct you to another page where it will tell you if it is a verified Curacao license, read this article which explains a lot about Curacao licenses and their symbols that you should look for in casinos if they have it and click on the symbols to confirm. Is a very interesting article:

How to Verify Curacao Gambling Licenses (all 4 of them)

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Yes, it bothers me when I can't verify the casino's license. because the government can seize the casino when it does not have a license and when the government seizes the casino because it does not have a license, people who have money in the casino will lose money

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

no. We need to understand that having a license does not mean that we are proving the casino's honesty. That's not how it works. In the real world we see many companies that have licenses but are scams. So a license is not proof that the company will not be a scam. what the license benefits and that it complies with government laws. governments require licenses for casinos to pay taxes and for the government to have customer and casino data so that the government continues to have control. the government wants to monitor the casino's financial activities

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Actually, those who act as regulators can have a website where one is intended to type down the license number of the casino one is trying to verify, their search engine do some quick searching before letting one know whether the casino is registered with them or not.
Moreover, some small casinos which may not be as well-known and may not have a full license also can opt to go full into provably fairness, in order to calm suspicions from gamblers. If one knows how provably fairness works and how to verify it, there should be little or no worries about the integrity of the casino.
The best way to avoid such worries would be to only gamble in big and reliable casinos with such a huge volume, so they would have no reasons to cheap cheat on others to keep so bugs. In the case of Stake, they are both regulated and have their own selection of provably fair games. They are called Stake's Originals and I personally enjoy their version of Dices and Blackjack.

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it's too much trouble for me to be able to verify the regulations of the gambling platform, because it's none of my business either, as long as the platform is reputable and has a license where we can check the validity on the regulatory website then i think that it's not a problem in my opinion. because the most important thing in my opinion is the reputation of the platform and the license of the platform is only a secondary factor that supports that.

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I do not verify new casinos. It takes time to know about casino verification especially for new casinos. I don't need to verify if it's an old and reputable casino because other members will.

It doesn't bother me if the casino is regulated or not. As long as the casino is trusted and has a reputation, that's enough for me. After all, I only gamble in my spare time and have no desire to chase wins.

If all online casinos could provide proof of licensing, it would likely reduce the risk of fraud. People can verify the casino before they use the casino for gambling.

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Actually, I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is too busy checking or verifying the license of the online casino that I'm playing at, but I know that the casino that I'm playing at is a big casino and quite famous everywhere, so I think that's enough for me to be sure that they officially has a permit to operate and the most important thing for me is that maybe there are a handful of people who check it too, so of course it doesn't matter that I no longer need to check it because people who are trusted have checked it too.

I have never been apart of this forum community and really rely on my friends here too because most of the gamblers on this forum have definitely checked the license and verified their casino well apart from seeing where the best service is at the casino itself, I'm sure everyone will also prevent fraud from happening again Everywhere there are quite a lot of people losing money on online casino sites, so always remain careful in choosing an online casino to play at, especially using big money, obviously requiring to verify the operating permit so that it is safer to play and feel calm without worrying about losing money. everyone will definitely consider it a problem if there is a lack of proof regarding licensing. Grin

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I have never checked the license before, but I only have it at the back of my mind that for a centralized casino to operate, they must have the license from the government, especially reputable casinos. I love gambling on few casinos that have good reputation here.

I am more of having fun with betting on the casino than verifying if they are licensed, because having the license does not guarantee that they will not come up with ugly terms and conditions to favor them, and that doesn't mean that they should be trusted 90%.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 01, 2024, 03:24:09 AM

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Yes of course. If all or even at least most casinos will set forth transparency of their operation, that will raise higher level of trust to the public. There might be lack of regulation for those but as much casino passed such proof, it will not only give trust to the public but also run some promotion. Well of course if you are a gambler, you want to put and bet your money on a house that won't cheat on you. Most casinos especially those are frauds just begone out of nowhere after many losses from the house. Some, the games are too manipulated and rigged.

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I am wondering what experts that have that claim that you OP has just said. Is it we(us) the gamblers? Or officials from the lottery and casino commission?

Because I do not have think if the gambling companies are answerable to us the gamblers to prof to us that they're licensed and verified to operate. If there is anyone of us in doubt that the gambling sites he/she is gambling on is not legally operating and they can not prove their legal system to you then go straight to the lottery and casino commission. They are answerable to that and have the rights to take action if there is ever a controversial operating gambling site (s).

Asking me, I would say I do not care and does not have that energy to stress on just to verify if the casino sites I am gaming on is registered.
As much as I have gone through their reviews and had also got testifiers whom had been onboard in the site comfortably then I do not see reasons to worry.
I just want to have the funs through the features and nature of the casino sites and if I wins, they should also let me cashout without excuses.

That is just all I cares.

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You can't verify the license because there are no site with gambling database let you to input the license numbers to verify.

You can only believe the verified link that posted by the casino in their sites aren't fake, that's all.

This isn't a problem for me because I trust the casino based on their reputations in this forum, if not I'd be careful and taking risk if the casino will scam me one day.

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I would say that in addition to giving you peace of mind that the casino is licensed, it would also be helpful to read reviews about it from multiple sources. Nowadays, everything except health is for sale, and all licenses and other pieces of paper with stamps also have their price. You can only trust a casino as long as it pays you. But as we see from the reviews, sometimes incidents and surprises happen when suddenly the place where you were at home becomes a stranger and stops paying. I think it is necessary to regularly monitor all changes to those sites that you trust.

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