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Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

If Bitcoin were to replace the current global financial system and achieve widespread adoption as a decentralized and reliable store of value, some enthusiasts might see Michael Saylor as a visionary or a pivotal figure. Similar to how Peter and Paul played crucial roles in spreading the teachings of Christianity, Saylor's active promotion and strategic investment in Bitcoin could be viewed as instrumental in driving its adoption.

As much as we love to see Bitcoin becoming a world currency or even a reserved, it might not happen. I mean countries or the global reserves should at least be not as volatile as Bitcoin. And with that alone, it totally eliminates Bitcoin or even the rest of crypto to become a reserved, sorry to burst the bubble for you.

Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

The analogy suggests that just as the apostles were significant in the establishment and spread of Christianity, Saylor's dedication to advocating for Bitcoin and integrating it into his business strategies could be perceived as foundational for a potential future financial paradigm.

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Saylor just so happen to be one of the biggest investors, nothing more, nothing less. Just like the rest of us here, average joe can be called apostle right? But that is not the case, Saylor is just like the rest of us. We shouldn't treat him like above us or even compare him to the apostles.

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Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

The analogy suggests that just as the apostles were significant in the establishment and spread of Christianity, Saylor's dedication to advocating for Bitcoin and integrating it into his business strategies could be perceived as foundational for a potential future financial paradigm.

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I haven't seen any credible contribution by Michael Saylor to the bitcoin community and ecosystem since he started advocating for Bitcoin. While it's true that Microstrategy bought a lot of Bitcoin at different points in time! It's important to note that it's just business for Michael Saylor. It's his investment so it's only right thst he promotes his bag for other institutional investors to follow suit. Saylor saw an opportunity in Bitcoin and made the move to capitalize on it. Other than that, nothing.

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Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

If Bitcoin were to replace the current global financial system

People need to stop talking about replacement of global financial system, because Bitcoin is not a financial system, it's a payment network and a currency. Even if as a thought experiment we imagine that Bitcoin can replace fiat, there would still be a need for banks, brokers, trust funds and all the other financial institutions.

Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

The analogy suggests that just as the apostles were significant in the establishment and spread of Christianity, Saylor's dedication to advocating for Bitcoin and integrating it into his business strategies could be perceived as foundational for a potential future financial paradigm.

Roger Ver used to be called Bitcoin Jesus, and we all know how it all ended. Don't put all your faith into any individual, but especially the ultra-rich individual whose #1 priority in life is making even more money.

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Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

If Bitcoin were to replace the current global financial system and achieve widespread adoption as a decentralized and reliable store of value, some enthusiasts might see Michael Saylor as a visionary or a pivotal figure. Similar to how Peter and Paul played crucial roles in spreading the teachings of Christianity, Saylor's active promotion and strategic investment in Bitcoin could be viewed as instrumental in driving its adoption.

The analogy suggests that just as the apostles were significant in the establishment and spread of Christianity, Saylor's dedication to advocating for Bitcoin and integrating it into his business strategies could be perceived as foundational for a potential future financial paradigm.

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There are people that believe Bitcoin can replace the current global financial system even before Michael Saylor stated his vision. So I will never consider Michael Saylor as a modern apostle even after Bitcoin become the replacement of the current global financial system. Saylor's promotion and strategic investment is just for personal gain since he really need to promote Bitcoin so that his plans and project will flourish. It is more on personal gain, IMO.

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Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:53:33 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on July 23, 2023, 02:33:29 PM

Bitcoin will never be a replacement to the world financial system so yoh need to settle with that fact, but the beat that Bitcoin can be is be an alternative to the traditional financial system which is a decentralized financial system that give its user the freedom to choose when and how they spend their money and how much, since there is no limit to Bitcoin transition, unlike the traditional financial system that involves all kinds of limits and restrictions.

So be that is it may, Bitcoin is bigger than any individual investor, and as for Michelle Saylor, he is just an investor and the best he can be is to be among institutional investors but not up to the category of being called a whale Bitcoin holder, the total amount of Michael Saylor and his company bitcoin holding is still low compared to some individual Bitcoin holders.

While the overindulgent citizens and bourgeoisie in the Europe or USA are struggling to comprehend that 2.625 Bitcoin are vital for them not to become slaves in the next 100 years or can't grasp how to conduct AML Bitcoin LN transactions, here's an interesting fact. In Africa, approximately 500 million people do not possess passports and consequently, they lack access to banking services. The only available financial instrument for them today is Bitcoin LN. Understand, gentlemen, strictly speaking, it is indifferent to me whether you join the Order 2.625 or if we have to form an Order with our African brothers. In some sense, it might even be easier with them since their minds haven't undergone nuclear cleansing from Marvel and DC, and I can teach them everything they need to know: Rwanda, Sudan, Kenya, Chad, Angola... strictly speaking, these territories hold countless riches... diamonds, gold, cadmium... you name it, just to add around 8 million plebeians to our Order. And then, who knows, perhaps the "old" money earned by Belgians on the backs of Rwandans will turn to dust, and Belgium itself will become a colony.

I agree with you that bitcoin have banking the unbanked and helping the financial inclusion of everyone who chose to use Bitcoin without any limitations and this is what have proven Bitcoin to be the best alternatives but also having given it user the best alternative currency as being the decentralized alternatives.

This have been the reason for the widespread adoption of Bitcoin for both small and whale bitcoin holders, but then also we have had a whale control attempt to make changes to the price pattern of Bitcoin being a relatively stable alternative currency and due to Bitcoin decetralized nature and volatility in it value make Bitcoin to become a highly speculative assets at the moment.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 23, 2023, 03:50:10 PM

Nah, I would stir away from the religion analogy. It's totally different and we shouldn't compare it to like Christianity wherein Satoshi could be the symbol like Jesus and then he as his apostles like what you are portraying here as Michael Saylor = Peter or Paul.

It's just the Saylor being a investor and see the potential on BTC, "religiously" invested on it because as humans, he knows that he can make a lot of money and so he will be rich. Of course he has been preaching Bitcoin since he join the bandwagon, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have any investment outside of Bitcoin. We just don't know, maybe he has property investments or like stocks and others.

In general, when observing humans, those who are isolated within a tribe or society tend to have shorter lifespans. Throughout early human history, we realized the importance of being part of a strong group (cult or religion) for survival. Typically, the groups that maintain strong bonds and loyalty are more likely to succeed over other groups.

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Quote from: KalOlak on July 23, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

If Bitcoin were to replace the current global financial system and achieve widespread adoption as a decentralized and reliable store of value, some enthusiasts might see Michael Saylor as a visionary or a pivotal figure. Similar to how Peter and Paul played crucial roles in spreading the teachings of Christianity, Saylor's active promotion and strategic investment in Bitcoin could be viewed as instrumental in driving its adoption.

The analogy suggests that just as the apostles were significant in the establishment and spread of Christianity, Saylor's dedication to advocating for Bitcoin and integrating it into his business strategies could be perceived as foundational for a potential future financial paradigm.

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Nah, I would stir away from the religion analogy. It's totally different and we shouldn't compare it to like Christianity wherein Satoshi could be the symbol like Jesus and then he as his apostles like what you are portraying here as Michael Saylor = Peter or Paul.

It's just the Saylor being a investor and see the potential on BTC, "religiously" invested on it because as humans, he knows that he can make a lot of money and so he will be rich. Of course he has been preaching Bitcoin since he join the bandwagon, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have any investment outside of Bitcoin. We just don't know, maybe he has property investments or like stocks and others.

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Quote from: Wiwo on July 23, 2023, 02:33:29 PM

Bitcoin will never be a replacement to the world financial system so yoh need to settle with that fact, but the beat that Bitcoin can be is be an alternative to the traditional financial system which is a decentralized financial system that give its user the freedom to choose when and how they spend their money and how much, since there is no limit to Bitcoin transition, unlike the traditional financial system that involves all kinds of limits and restrictions.

So be that is it may, Bitcoin is bigger than any individual investor, and as for Michelle Saylor, he is just an investor and the best he can be is to be among institutional investors but not up to the category of being called a whale Bitcoin holder, the total amount of Michael Saylor and his company bitcoin holding is still low compared to some individual Bitcoin holders.

While the overindulgent citizens and bourgeoisie in the Europe or USA are struggling to comprehend that 2.625 Bitcoin are vital for them not to become slaves in the next 100 years or can't grasp how to conduct AML Bitcoin LN transactions, here's an interesting fact. In Africa, approximately 500 million people do not possess passports and consequently, they lack access to banking services. The only available financial instrument for them today is Bitcoin LN. Understand, gentlemen, strictly speaking, it is indifferent to me whether you join the Order 2.625 or if we have to form an Order with our African brothers. In some sense, it might even be easier with them since their minds haven't undergone nuclear cleansing from Marvel and DC, and I can teach them everything they need to know: Rwanda, Sudan, Kenya, Chad, Angola... strictly speaking, these territories hold countless riches... diamonds, gold, cadmium... you name it, just to add around 8 million plebeians to our Order. And then, who knows, perhaps the "old" money earned by Belgians on the backs of Rwandans will turn to dust, and Belgium itself will become a colony.

Quote from: Upgrade00 on July 23, 2023, 02:33:13 PM

This is just an investment, do not help the idea that the Bitcoin community is a cult on. We just resonate with the idea of freedom and decentralization.
Micheal Saylor is a guy who is looking after his investment, if Bitcoin rises in price, he profits, so it's only wise to help it on by using his influence.

If we are looking for those who advocated for Bitcoin and helped it to reach where it is today we should look further back to the early days (someone like Hal Finney) and the developers that helped keep everything functioning.

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Now I think this is going crazy, Bitcoin has now been compared with everything and anything, now the spread of Christianity is compared with Bitcoin really funny.

I think there have been many that have said that Bitcoin would develop and become generally accepted and just because they aren't popular should not make Micheal saylor special. Infact Many of us are here because we believe that Bitcoin has a strong place in the financial system in the future, that should not mean we are a figure from the bible. Let's stop all this weird comparison.

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Bitcoin will never be a replacement to the world financial system so yoh need to settle with that fact, but the beat that Bitcoin can be is be an alternative to the traditional financial system which is a decentralized financial system that give its user the freedom to choose when and how they spend their money and how much, since there is no limit to Bitcoin transition, unlike the traditional financial system that involves all kinds of limits and restrictions.

So be that is it may, Bitcoin is bigger than any individual investor, and as for Michelle Saylor, he is just an investor and the best he can be is to be among institutional investors but not up to the category of being called a whale Bitcoin holder, the total amount of Michael Saylor and his company bitcoin holding is still low compared to some individual Bitcoin holders.

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This is just an investment, do not help the idea that the Bitcoin community is a cult on. We just resonate with the idea of freedom and decentralization.
Micheal Saylor is a guy who is looking after his investment, if Bitcoin rises in price, he profits, so it's only wise to help it on by using his influence.

If we are looking for those who advocated for Bitcoin and helped it to reach where it is today we should look further back to the early days (someone like Hal Finney) and the developers that helped keep everything functioning.

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If Bitcoin were to replace the current global financial system and achieve widespread adoption as a decentralized and reliable store of value, some enthusiasts might see Michael Saylor as a visionary or a pivotal figure. Similar to how Peter and Paul played crucial roles in spreading the teachings of Christianity, Saylor's active promotion and strategic investment in Bitcoin could be viewed as instrumental in driving its adoption.

The analogy suggests that just as the apostles were significant in the establishment and spread of Christianity, Saylor's dedication to advocating for Bitcoin and integrating it into his business strategies could be perceived as foundational for a potential future financial paradigm.

discuss

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