Topic: Is miningunited.com a SCAM, turning .1 bitcoins into .137 for almost free? - page 18. (Read 28737 times)
May 12, 2013, 03:16:55 PM
@blueblade123, that proves my point right?
May 12, 2013, 03:09:32 PM
MiningUnited.com WhoIS registration info:
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MININGUNITED.COM
Created on: 15-Apr-13
Expires on: 15-Apr-14
Last Updated on: 15-Apr-13
Administrative Contact:
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Technical Contact:
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Domain servers in listed order:
NS45.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS46.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MININGUNITED.COM
Created on: 15-Apr-13
Expires on: 15-Apr-14
Last Updated on: 15-Apr-13
Administrative Contact:
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Technical Contact:
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Domain servers in listed order:
NS45.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS46.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
May 12, 2013, 03:06:40 PM
BTCCheap's WhoIS registration info:
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Registration Service Provided By: Namecheap.com
Contact: [email protected]
Visit: http://namecheap.com
Registered through: eNom, Inc.
Domain name: BTCCHEAP.COM
Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected ()
Fax:
11400 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 200
Los Angeles, CA 90064
US
Administrative Contact:
Los Angeles, CA 90064
US
Technical Contact:
Los Angeles, CA 90064
US
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
dns1.namecheaphosting.com
dns2.namecheaphosting.com
Creation date: 07 May 2013 15:29:00
Expiration date: 07 May 2015 07:29:00
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Registration Service Provided By: Namecheap.com
Contact: [email protected]
Visit: http://namecheap.com
Registered through: eNom, Inc.
Domain name: BTCCHEAP.COM
Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected ()
Fax:
11400 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 200
Los Angeles, CA 90064
US
Administrative Contact:
Los Angeles, CA 90064
US
Technical Contact:
Los Angeles, CA 90064
US
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
dns1.namecheaphosting.com
dns2.namecheaphosting.com
Creation date: 07 May 2013 15:29:00
Expiration date: 07 May 2015 07:29:00
May 12, 2013, 03:06:09 PM
About the email from "Jimmy" to MiningUnited....
The email sounded it is the first time Jimmy emailed MU, and Jimmy asked MU to send all payout to SatoshiDice, but Jimmy did not give MU his wallet address?! How did MU know which address not to payout?
Even if Jimmy did give MU his address in another email. How can MU verify that address do belong to Jimmy?
So, I can just pick any random address from the MU website, email MU telling them to divert all the payouts to SD, and this poor random guy will not get his bitcoins back? Surely this can't be right!
Looking at the blockchain, there are simply too much bitcoins going to SD from MU addresses...
The email sounded it is the first time Jimmy emailed MU, and Jimmy asked MU to send all payout to SatoshiDice, but Jimmy did not give MU his wallet address?! How did MU know which address not to payout?
Even if Jimmy did give MU his address in another email. How can MU verify that address do belong to Jimmy?
So, I can just pick any random address from the MU website, email MU telling them to divert all the payouts to SD, and this poor random guy will not get his bitcoins back? Surely this can't be right!
Looking at the blockchain, there are simply too much bitcoins going to SD from MU addresses...
May 12, 2013, 01:34:32 PM
I have been wondering how you are going to scale your scam in order to increase your take.
Now we know: http://www.btccheap.com/index.html
Just make duplicate web sites! Nice...
Now we know: http://www.btccheap.com/index.html
Just make duplicate web sites! Nice...
lol, nice one!
May 12, 2013, 01:33:01 PM
I have been wondering how you are going to scale your scam in order to increase your take.
Now we know: http://www.btccheap.com/index.html
Just make duplicate web sites! Nice...
Dude, it could be someone who tries to scam other people who TRUST mining united. How would you know? Now we know: http://www.btccheap.com/index.html
Just make duplicate web sites! Nice...
May 12, 2013, 11:37:12 AM
MiningUnited is literally the definition of a Ponzi scheme. How does so few people see this? Maybe playing EVE online gives you a more keen eye on scams? 
May 12, 2013, 11:32:42 AM
I have been wondering how you are going to scale your scam in order to increase your take.
Now we know: http://www.btccheap.com/index.html
Just make duplicate web sites! Nice...
Now we know: http://www.btccheap.com/index.html
Just make duplicate web sites! Nice...
May 11, 2013, 03:01:06 PM
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If you look at the my mining page, you can now see deposits with expected payout days of May 26 or more than 2 weeks in the future.
The latest estimated payout is May 19 (as of 5/11/2013 4:16PM EST).
You only saw that, which was temporarily incorrect, because the server was full. Perfect example of why we cannot just keep taking new purchases without restriction.
We are not accepting new purchases until we payout current users to reduce queue time.
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This does however fit in perfectly with a ponzi scheme, where payout times get longer and longer.
Guess what, the queue time is now going to get shorter and shorter.
May 11, 2013, 01:48:41 PM
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Can you explain us why from your adress is made a lot of pays for http://satoshidice.com/
You are gambling with our money.... Or has a good explain to this
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KqeqiJtmtmuf8jHDiGt3kYXvLSRHFw2MS?filter=1#
I am waiting for your answer.
I am nearly to lose 0.050 BTC which was very hard to earn visiting free sites and faucets. But if the scam is discovered i am happy enought.
You are gambling with our money.... Or has a good explain to this
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KqeqiJtmtmuf8jHDiGt3kYXvLSRHFw2MS?filter=1#
I am waiting for your answer.
I am nearly to lose 0.050 BTC which was very hard to earn visiting free sites and faucets. But if the scam is discovered i am happy enought.
One of our users requested payout to go to these addresses:
If this was something we wanted to 'hide' we would have not done it from one of the obviously public addresses. All of the payouts are public, no matter where the user requests the payout. You can thank this user for being so generous.
Please, if you think we were trying to hide this you are sadly mistaken.
Wow, this looks really fake
Why would they change all their payouts to go to SD? They say they want to make a donation, but they also plan to keep using the service. So which is it?
Why would they give you two specific SD addresses, and then tell you to play whichever dice you want? Which is it??
What is this mail service you're using? I've never seen one like it. It looks like someone added some ads in there to make it look like webmail--a bit of reverse psychology gone bad, because if it were a real e-mail from webmail I would expect you to cut out the ads.
Speaking of which, it would be so much faster to just copy and paste the text from the e-mail. Is there some reason you feel the need to prove it was a real e-mail and not just typed into the forum compose box?
A badly thought out and doctored screencap of an e-mail is more suspicious than all of the rest of it put together...
I call ponzi.
May 11, 2013, 10:04:23 AM
The fact that someone got paid yesterday is completely irrelevant. The question is why do payouts now take 3 weeks. This contradicts the information on the site about the total time, including verification of deposit, queue time, mining time, payout verification. This does however fit in perfectly with a ponzi scheme, where payout times get longer and longer. The site is about a month old and payouts are already at the 3 week mark on new deposits.
I send my investment on 4 May (Click) and got it back on 9 May (Click or search 17jNkbxxFpVpPZimuCpSApREW5QT57kt76 on here).
I don't see how that is 3 weeks.
May 11, 2013, 09:23:08 AM
The fact that someone got paid yesterday is completely irrelevant. The question is why do payouts now take 3 weeks. This contradicts the information on the site about the total time, including verification of deposit, queue time, mining time, payout verification. This does however fit in perfectly with a ponzi scheme, where payout times get longer and longer. The site is about a month old and payouts are already at the 3 week mark on new deposits.
I send my investment on 4 May (Click) and got it back on 9 May (Click or search 17jNkbxxFpVpPZimuCpSApREW5QT57kt76 on here).
I don't see how that is 3 weeks.
May 11, 2013, 09:19:16 AM
You now have more than one customer giving you all of their principal and interest as a donation, but only if you run the donation through SD first?
Very interesting. Hmmmmm.....
You sure send a lot of very large payouts to SD!
Very interesting. Hmmmmm.....
Please change my 4 upcoming payouts to SatoshiDice, sent you an email keep any winnings as a donation too.
How do you tie specific deposits to this specific customer so you know which payouts you need to send to SD instead?You sure send a lot of very large payouts to SD!
May 11, 2013, 08:50:04 AM
The fact that someone got paid yesterday is completely irrelevant. The question is why do payouts now take 3 weeks. This contradicts the information on the site about the total time, including verification of deposit, queue time, mining time, payout verification. This does however fit in perfectly with a ponzi scheme, where payout times get longer and longer. The site is about a month old and payouts are already at the 3 week mark on new deposits.
May 11, 2013, 05:48:06 AM
I got my transaction yesterday, it was even 2 days early: http://blockchain.info/nl/tx/f8b8f6d619dec5031182b6dda6e463a5f0e7b2a07449ba184e21c1525f76ea36
Thanks Mining United.
Thanks Mining United.
May 11, 2013, 03:27:44 AM
I would stay far away from this.. just too many peeps asking for btc and promising unrealistic things..
Bitcoin is very easy to scam with as there is no refund and irreversable..
Keep ur btc, be carefull
Bitcoin is very easy to scam with as there is no refund and irreversable..
Keep ur btc, be carefull
May 11, 2013, 03:16:32 AM
If you look at the my mining page, you can now see deposits with expected payout days of May 26 or more than 2 weeks in the future. And below that many more deposits that say simply pending, meaning no expected payout date. Since some of these have been there a while, any payment would be probably 3 weeks or longer after deposit. Meanwhile for days the site says the server is not full but running at 89.3 per cent capacity.
So why are payments now so much longer when the server is not full? This to me is a big red flag. Earlier it was said the whole process may take a week or a bit longer. That is now looking like 3 weeks and new deposits are still being accepted.
In a ponzi scheme, you see the first payouts fast and smooth. Then payouts take longer and longer. Finally payouts take forever, your money is never coming back.
So why are payments now so much longer when the server is not full? This to me is a big red flag. Earlier it was said the whole process may take a week or a bit longer. That is now looking like 3 weeks and new deposits are still being accepted.
In a ponzi scheme, you see the first payouts fast and smooth. Then payouts take longer and longer. Finally payouts take forever, your money is never coming back.
May 11, 2013, 01:55:36 AM
Well this is weird.
May 11, 2013, 12:57:16 AM
i hope MU will long long live 
May 10, 2013, 08:26:38 PM
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If this was something we wanted to 'hide' we would have not done it from one of the obviously public addresses. All of the payouts are public, no matter where the user requests the payout. You can thank this user for being so generous.
MU, thank you for being honest and not trying to hide this. Don't listen to what all these users are saying about your service. I love it, no reason not to. Please change my 4 upcoming payouts to SatoshiDice, sent you an email keep any winnings as a donation too. Knowing MU, you will probably just give it away to th users, like usual
. THANKS!Quote
Until you get at least 2 verifications always assume a scam. This looks like one.
I have always been paid, support is amazing - friendly, fun, chill. They have a private chatroom too for premier users. Love it.
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