Topic: Is Monero, Dash and all anon coins fucked? - page 6. (Read 8124 times)

Liar. Readers click the monerolink and you can see for yourselves.


Liar. That has already been refuted in the comment section where the MNL-001 research report was discussed and refuted by him.

Lying will not help you.


The Monero snobbishness knows no bounds. Even @fluffypony does not trust @Shen_noether and censored his own PhD mathematician in Github.

Pure nonsense. Monerolink only applies to very old transactions that intentionally turned off privacy by setting mixin to zero.

Anonymint is a well known Monero hater. His mathematics knowledge is a joke; just enough to be able to waste the time of Monero's PhD cryptographers. He's been coming up with imaginary vulnerabilities since 2014. They require ridiculous conditions which exist only in his head. For his vulnerabilities to work, an attacker would have to own over 80% of all outputs on the blockchain, and also continue to generate new transactions to maintain that. In other words, they might work if you created your own testnet, but never on Monero's blockchain.

Meanwhile, it's almost certain that Zcash has a deanonymization backdoor, as hinted at by Zooko and Matthew Green. So Zcash is almost certainly a honeypot, with even less privacy than Bitcoin. It's not surprising that they would put out fake news on Monero, as their inferior system can't compete without deception and tricks.

Thanks a lot for posting this! I didn't know that, if it's true it can undermine a lot of monero's potential.. Let's see how it will end

This site shows the linkability of Monero:

https://monerolink.com/

Note the above is without the additional vulnerabilities which @AnonyMint detailed. Thus even 10 ring sigs mixes may be still insufficient.

More details:

https://steemit.com/shadowbrokers/@zooko/re-synapse-re-crazyflashpie-re-synapse-re-demotruk-re-synapse-re-theshadowbrokers-theshadowbrokers-monthly-dump-service-june-2017-update-20170606t153120581z

P.S. Zooko-Wilcox the CEO and lead dev of Zcash commented on AnonyMint’s blog.

I have no ideas. I think to hide your IP automatically not that you need some special IP changing provider. It is still in alpha so I guess only some knows how will work. and if it will not work will be abandoned. 
But you have plenty Verge guys here and on this forum and on Twitter, they offers you bitcoin with an already working IP changer. So you should ask them what is the point to offer a transparent block chain with a honeypot.   Lets hope the will give you a satisfying answer.

No, the USD is.

He wrote that low-latency onion routing such as Tor and I2P are honeypots.
Why is Monero adding another alleged honeypot technology to their existing alleged honeypot technology?
Whose “expertise” can we trust on any of this?

Seems that the dismissiveness of Monero “experts” has been challenged.

To correct your statement. Monero is most anon and untraceable and fungible cryptocoin in existence. It has long way to achieve an ideal of  "complete anonymity". If that is not just a myth.
On internet you can always be traced by IP unless you change it regularly. Most people know that. that s why there are some programs that change IPs.  This is how some of my friends from Iran was able to play games that was forbidden to be played from Iran.

Verge is a Bitcoin clone that has build in it such program. That is only thing special about it. Bitcoin + hide IP.

Monero dont have hide IP.  Since Monero is not a copy/paste Bitcoin clone it had other priorities so far. But, but but. Kovri is almost here. Hide IP program that will be part of Monero. 



Before Ring CT anonymity in Monero was optional and miners ofcourse did not chose their transactions to be anonymous. I find that totally normal. Most coins that try to be anonymous still have such feature to chose to have anon or transparent transaction. They should definitely ready this paper you posted. Oh they wrote it. Then is all good.

Complete anonymity? This report states over 87% of all transactions were able to be traced back to the real output and their study extends to RingCT. This is what happens when you have a bunch of unqualified developers working on cryptosystems.. It's not completely unexpected though, Fluffypony is the "lead developer" and he isn't even a developer.. he's a troll who's sold the public a bag of shit wrapped up in tinfoil and they believe its platinum.
https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf

I spoke with the authors about Boolberry's approach to solving the Cryptonote traceability issue and they stated "its definitely a step in the right direction." One thing to note here is that Boolberry's developer, crypto_zoidberg, launched this fix right out of the gate in 2014. He was able to identify this flaw years before this report was published which leads me to believe he probably had a hand in the creation of the Cryptonote protocol.
https://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-solves-cryptonoteflaws-37055246

Well, I think it's a difference wheter it is Tor (Honeypot) or a general issue where IPs are easy visible...

We dont have any choice and we cant do anything about it. Monero have been known for its complete anonymity but as being said above it can already traced by its IP which is really a shocking thing for me.
Looking back that Bitcoin is commonly used in UG transactions until monero have popped out. If prices would still remain or maintain then demand of it would really be still lesser. If they are already being traced they they are complete fucked up.

In that blog he dismissed Verge as also being onion routing same as Tor/I2P which are known honeypots.

But on a pure speculative analysis, the XVG chart appears to be in a wedge that is nearing its big move.
Could Verge be the beneficiary of a Monero decline given that Zcash is just too damn slow for payments (up to minutes)?
As I understand it, he had proposed a different way of using the zkSNARKs to make it fast for real-time payments in his project.
If he is correct about Verge onion routing technology being not suitable, then perhaps it will just be a pump that will not sustain?

Yesterday, Verge Dev proofed on Twitter that Monero user-IPs can be found in the network.. I think Monero is going down.

No growth in adoption? No surge to keep price moving up. Dark markets likely have a lower ceiling and aren’t likely a growth market, beause illegality doesn’t have good network effects.
When 0.5% of the (criminally inclined) population is trying to network with each other, economies-of-scale are low. Why do ya think Dash branched out into “instant payments”.


Did you see this:

Monero, Dash, Zcash and altcoin anonymous are best coin for UG market, why the price of them can't increasing when Bitcoin is fresh cryptocurrency? I don't know the reason the price of them still cheap, special Monero stand still the price 0.015 in long time, from early year until today, it still can't breakout taget 0.03 per coin

I still think they have tons of potential. I especially like how Dash is able to fund development and marketing.

Markets can remain irrational for longer than the short can remain solvent.

Burst didn't collapse after this post for example.
It went down tho.

Unfortunately this type of censorship campaign is standard operating procedure for the Monero core team. In addition, they also have a long history of engaging in attacks on individuals and competing projects whom they perceived as threats.

Fluffypony recently censored his hired mathematician who goes by the alias "Shen Noether" from their github when he voiced concerns about RingCT. Although he is a mathematician, not a cryptographer, he was the only person involved in Monero capable of contributing anything meaningful to their project.

https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/4

I personally don't have any respect for Shen or his work due to his involvement in a coordinated attack on the Shadowcash project. Instead of handling things politely like any other academic would he stooped to Fluffy & co's level and contributed to the smear campaign. That said, he still shouldn't be censored for his opinions on the project or his own work toward the project.

Monero has FUD'd and smeared their way to the top market caps without doing anything of major note. I wouldn't be surprised if the DNM that added Monero was part of a larger marketing strategy to get Monero attention. The oasis market was around just long enough to convince AB to add it then as soon as they did it pulled an exit scam. What that tells me or anyone with half a brain is that their sole purpose was to get a legit DNM to add Monero not to service customers.

Maybe FBI reports of looking into Monero is more geared towards that front than the actual codebase. Now with those out of the way and "Shen" no longer contributing it seems the only place Monero can go is downward.

Seems that Monero folk are trying to sweep this under the rug?

I found copies of the posts @fluffypony deleted.