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We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

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I believe that poverty is one of the most controversial issues. The fact is that there is a dilemma about who would you give a million dollars to: to a thousand poor strangers or to one native person? There is no right answer to such a question. My friend crypto millionaire likes to serve to the poor. And I think it's not right. I immediately remember the saying: do not give the poor a fish, but teach him to fish, because then he will be full all his life.

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Quote from: marcous on July 16, 2023, 07:12:36 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 16, 2023, 04:22:54 AM

We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

That's true if a number of things are fulfilled, such as having a place to live (a house), access to education, health and daily basic needs, then the social status can be said to be not poor. Conversely, if access to these things is not fulfilled, a social gap will be created which will end up in poverty. In a broader definition of poverty, money plays an important role to improve social status and can provide access to opportunities and can be used for self-development.

I think even though poverty is often generalized by not having money. There are several other factors such as not having access to education, health, and business opportunities which can also be called poverty. By managing finances well and working hard, we can avoid poverty, of course it's not easy, but it's an obligation for every individual to improve the standard of living in society.

Its not merely a monetary issue, but rather one of access to the possibilities, health, and education that such funds make possible. No matter how hard people try, they wont get very far without these

Its true that working hard and being responsible with money can help people get out of poverty, but calling it a "obligation" is a bit much. Problems at this level are systemic. It is the responsibility of all members of society to ensure that everyone has access to quality education, healthcare, and opportunity. Therefore, it is not enough for individuals to make an attempt; collective action is required. Responsibility, not fault, is at issue here. I've witnessed firsthand the wonder of human resiliency and the dissonance of cultural norms. It certainly provokes some deep consideration

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Quote from: waONE on July 16, 2023, 07:37:12 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 16, 2023, 04:22:54 AM

We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

Poverty is a problem that is so complex that sometimes we only focus on economic deficiencies,
be it education, health and others it must also be considered,
the government really needs to make an appropriate policy or program and support is also needed to at least reduce poverty.

This is like unraveling tangled threads, not to mention there is assistance, for example in my country where the data was incorrect, the correct quota for A can be shifted to another. Strange, indeed. But, that's the general condition. I think the government also has a heart for the people so that this can be handled properly and wisely. It is the person who causes this to be off target.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 16, 2023, 04:22:54 AM

We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

Poverty is a problem that is so complex that sometimes we only focus on economic deficiencies,
be it education, health and others it must also be considered,
the government really needs to make an appropriate policy or program and support is also needed to at least reduce poverty.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 16, 2023, 04:22:54 AM

We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

That's true if a number of things are fulfilled, such as having a place to live (a house), access to education, health and daily basic needs, then the social status can be said to be not poor. Conversely, if access to these things is not fulfilled, a social gap will be created which will end up in poverty. In a broader definition of poverty, money plays an important role to improve social status and can provide access to opportunities and can be used for self-development.

I think even though poverty is often generalized by not having money. There are several other factors such as not having access to education, health, and business opportunities which can also be called poverty. By managing finances well and working hard, we can avoid poverty, of course it's not easy, but it's an obligation for every individual to improve the standard of living in society.

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We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

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Obviously poverty has a broad meaning, but if we compare poverty in the city and poverty in the village, I would say that poverty can be reduced because the village relies more on natural products. I would emphasize primary needs here, which include food, clothing and shelter as well as education.
But in education I think we can still get it as long as there is a will, because the government is now making many policies that make it easier for someone to access education. However, if a person does not have the drive within himself, he will not use the programs carried out by the government.

Poverty does have a broad meaning and each region has its own classification in assessing poverty, of course it is a different matter when comparing people who are called poor in the city and people who are called poor in the province but we can draw both of them into one direction as unable to fulfill all their basic needs, for example in terms of food, more or less they will definitely get food and in fact the poor in cities can still live as well as in the provinces, in education it is the same, because if the government has a free education program it can be accessed even with general education intake, so the poor can only fulfill their primary needs with the money they have, and even then they are still lacking both in cities and in provinces.

The problem that often occurs when talking about poverty is when it is treated slightly differently.
Actually, things like this are common knowledge if you look at some conditions where people who are in a lower standard of living are treated a lot differently and this almost covers all points not only about attitudes but sometimes to facilities.
In addition, I don't know what it is like in other countries but looking at the conditions and examples for my own country there are a lot of policies that should benefit the poor such as some assistance in the form of food or money instead of things like this that make this a big question because some unscrupulous officials who act like mafia with almost related networks cut the existing budget which makes this even more difficult when talking about poverty.

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The term poverty is very subjective, so it will depend on how you examine the situation, a person is not necessarily classified as poor for not having money or for not being able to meet their daily needs, there is also the position in which they cannot have access to Fundamental things such as studying, a decent home to live in or to be able to maintain their health, those types of comforts and privileges that others with a better economic status have. Now, if you already have all these benefits and money is not considered an obstacle to living in a calm and complete way, it seems to me that you are not a person who can be considered poor, since you feel satisfied with what you have. And he has the necessary tools to survive.

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Quote from: Fiatless on June 14, 2023, 04:14:10 AM

I see poverty as the inability to provide what you need. So when people assume that poverty is when you don't have money I don't agree. Now what if you have all you need and you don't require money to buy anything, are you poor? Some people live in communities where everyone lives agrarian life. They have all they need because everything they need to survive is available. Food is on the farm, water available and everybody is happy. Although it was hard during the Covid-19 lockdown many people lived without money. I have also seen many people leaving cities and moving to rural areas to live a natural life.

In summary when you have everything you need to survive and you don't need money, are you poor?

I completely agree with you that poverty cannot be solely defined by the lack of money. It is more about inability to meet one's basic needs which can vary depending on the circumstances. As you mentioned some people who live in agrarian communities may not need money to survive because they have everything that they need available to them. To be able to survive everyone should work and earn money to be able to sustain their financial needs. I know that everyone will do any job just to survive poverty.

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Honestly if you differentiate the situation of the people in the cities and provinces, poverty might have a new meaning to it. If you don't have money in cities, you can't buy foods and any other basic needs. In some provinces, as long as you have rich soil, with different crops and veggies, together with river with fishes, you can eat. They don't have money but are they consider to be in poverty if they can survive everyday life?

It is not all about food but also shelter and education. Let's say they have a house but don't own it or have access to education. Yes, yes they can survive on a daily basis in terms of food, but how about clothing? the education? Are they going to school? Also other basic needs like pens, paper, and other stuff that is used in the home. Poverty is really a broad term, but it is really different in provinces and cities because you'll die in cities if you don't have money, unlike in provinces where you can pick some vegetables beside the road.

Obviously poverty has a broad meaning, but if we compare poverty in the city and poverty in the village, I would say that poverty can be reduced because the village relies more on natural products. I would emphasize primary needs here, which include food, clothing and shelter as well as education.
But in education I think we can still get it as long as there is a will, because the government is now making many policies that make it easier for someone to access education. However, if a person does not have the drive within himself, he will not use the programs carried out by the government.

Poverty does have a broad meaning and each region has its own classification in assessing poverty, of course it is a different matter when comparing people who are called poor in the city and people who are called poor in the province but we can draw both of them into one direction as unable to fulfill all their basic needs, for example in terms of food, more or less they will definitely get food and in fact the poor in cities can still live as well as in the provinces, in education it is the same, because if the government has a free education program it can be accessed even with general education intake, so the poor can only fulfill their primary needs with the money they have, and even then they are still lacking both in cities and in provinces.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 14, 2023, 08:01:08 AM

Quote from: adiksau0414 on June 30, 2023, 10:37:05 AM

Honestly if you differentiate the situation of the people in the cities and provinces, poverty might have a new meaning to it. If you don't have money in cities, you can't buy foods and any other basic needs. In some provinces, as long as you have rich soil, with different crops and veggies, together with river with fishes, you can eat. They don't have money but are they consider to be in poverty if they can survive everyday life?

It is not all about food but also shelter and education. Let's say they have a house but don't own it or have access to education. Yes, yes they can survive on a daily basis in terms of food, but how about clothing? the education? Are they going to school? Also other basic needs like pens, paper, and other stuff that is used in the home. Poverty is really a broad term, but it is really different in provinces and cities because you'll die in cities if you don't have money, unlike in provinces where you can pick some vegetables beside the road.

based on mathematical calculations, each region has its own income level limit. whether in the city or in the village will have a nominally different level of basic needs. People are said to be poor if their income is below the regional income standard, so it is difficult to meet their needs in the area where they live. for example in the village, indeed they do not lack food, but we can calculate their income from the profit of each harvest, so that it is at that level, because the necessities of life are not only food that they can produce themselves, but there are many other needs which of course must be met. fulfill it must be exchanged for a certain amount of money

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Poverty is often associated with a lack of financial resources, but it can also be defined as the inability to meet basic needs. If individuals have access to all the necessary resources for survival, such as food, water, and shelter, without requiring money, they may not be considered poor in a material sense. However, poverty can encompass other aspects such as limited access to education, healthcare, and opportunities for social and economic advancement, which may still affect individuals even in self-sustaining communities.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 14, 2023, 08:01:08 AM

Quote from: adiksau0414 on June 30, 2023, 10:37:05 AM

Honestly if you differentiate the situation of the people in the cities and provinces, poverty might have a new meaning to it. If you don't have money in cities, you can't buy foods and any other basic needs. In some provinces, as long as you have rich soil, with different crops and veggies, together with river with fishes, you can eat. They don't have money but are they consider to be in poverty if they can survive everyday life?

It is not all about food but also shelter and education. Let's say they have a house but don't own it or have access to education. Yes, yes they can survive on a daily basis in terms of food, but how about clothing? the education? Are they going to school? Also other basic needs like pens, paper, and other stuff that is used in the home. Poverty is really a broad term, but it is really different in provinces and cities because you'll die in cities if you don't have money, unlike in provinces where you can pick some vegetables beside the road.

Obviously poverty has a broad meaning, but if we compare poverty in the city and poverty in the village, I would say that poverty can be reduced because the village relies more on natural products. I would emphasize primary needs here, which include food, clothing and shelter as well as education.
But in education I think we can still get it as long as there is a will, because the government is now making many policies that make it easier for someone to access education. However, if a person does not have the drive within himself, he will not use the programs carried out by the government.

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Quote from: adiksau0414 on June 30, 2023, 10:37:05 AM

Honestly if you differentiate the situation of the people in the cities and provinces, poverty might have a new meaning to it. If you don't have money in cities, you can't buy foods and any other basic needs. In some provinces, as long as you have rich soil, with different crops and veggies, together with river with fishes, you can eat. They don't have money but are they consider to be in poverty if they can survive everyday life?

It is not all about food but also shelter and education. Let's say they have a house but don't own it or have access to education. Yes, yes they can survive on a daily basis in terms of food, but how about clothing? the education? Are they going to school? Also other basic needs like pens, paper, and other stuff that is used in the home. Poverty is really a broad term, but it is really different in provinces and cities because you'll die in cities if you don't have money, unlike in provinces where you can pick some vegetables beside the road.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on June 30, 2023, 10:26:10 AM

Poverty can exist in any form, we need to check and examine ourselves to know the areas of life we are lacking behind, we can work on the things causing such setback and see the desired change we want, we can say that poverty is also when you're been silenced in the society and in your career or professional engagement, whereby your voice is not heard and you're not being fulfilled to carry your heart desired endeavors.

This is the need to live in society. sometimes if we are weak on one side there are still our neighbors who want to lend a hand to help, the help doesn't only have to be money, if money alone it only lasts for a while.

In a society, their connectivity is certainly different and sometimes one of them is able to facilitate this condition until the exposed individual has a job that is deemed appropriate and according to the individual's level of ability (Level of education).

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Quote from: adiksau0414 on June 30, 2023, 10:37:05 AM

Honestly if you differentiate the situation of the people in the cities and provinces, poverty might have a new meaning to it. If you don't have money in cities, you can't buy foods and any other basic needs. In some provinces, as long as you have rich soil, with different crops and veggies, together with river with fishes, you can eat. They don't have money but are they consider to be in poverty if they can survive everyday life?

Exactly bro, because the lifestyle from the urban and provinces have a huge differences when it comes to providing their needs. In urban almost $100 wouldn't even last long at a week since there's a lot of needs you'll have to think about especially the price range. Since the products mostly food are from provinces imported to cities which they can add an interest for them to profit. While for the rural, it's the sources of foods which can be cheap if you buy directly at them. Plus they are already contented with their way of living as long as they can provide foods at their plate. OF course some of them have a bigger dream causes them to go at cities to find a huge opportunity in life like corporate industry.

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Poverty is not only related to lack of money. Although lack of money is one of the factors often associated with poverty, the definition of poverty involves much more than financial aspects. Poverty also includes the inability to meet basic needs such as food, clean water, adequate housing, education, access to health services, and fair economic opportunities. Therefore, if a person has everything needed to survive without needing money, but does not fulfill these essential aspects, they can still be considered poor.

But if you have money, meeting the basic needs of life is not too difficult. In today's society, as long as you have money, you can buy everything in this world, money is considered the measure of everything, so it is not wrong to say that no money is poor.

To be honest, I have never seen anyone get everything they need without money, even in remote rural areas, you need money to sustain life. Things have changed significantly, unlike in previous years when you could sustain your life by raising cattle and farming. Without money, you can't raise livestock and grow crops these days.

Indeed, money is one important aspect in maintaining survival. However, to measure poverty is not only seen from the financial side, but other main aspects such as education, access to health services. Even in rural areas, although people seem to live a poor life because maybe their houses are slums, behind that they sometimes have large gardens and large savings and even all other basic needs are met, such as clean water, food, education and access to good health services.

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Quote from: Fiatless on June 14, 2023, 04:14:10 AM

I see poverty as the inability to provide what you need. So when people assume that poverty is when you don't have money I don't agree.

Not being unable to meet one's fundamental needs such as for food, shelter, and clothing is poverty. Poverty comes in many forms. Even if one's fundamental requirements are satisfied without the need for money, poverty may still exist due to lack of access to chances for personal and economic development, healthcare, and education, among other things.

Quote from: Fiatless on June 14, 2023, 04:14:10 AM

Now what if you have all you need and you don't require money to buy anything, are you poor? Some people live in communities where everyone lives agrarian life. They have all they need because everything they need to survive is available. Food is on the farm, water available and everybody is happy. Although it was hard during the Covid-19 lockdown many people lived without money. I have also seen many people leaving cities and moving to rural areas to live a natural life.

In summary when you have everything you need to survive and you don't need money, are you poor?

As location, finances, and personal circumstances all differ widely, it may not be possible for everyone to thrive in a self-sustaining society.

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Honestly if you differentiate the situation of the people in the cities and provinces, poverty might have a new meaning to it. If you don't have money in cities, you can't buy foods and any other basic needs. In some provinces, as long as you have rich soil, with different crops and veggies, together with river with fishes, you can eat. They don't have money but are they consider to be in poverty if they can survive everyday life?

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Poverty can exist in any form, we need to check and examine ourselves to know the areas of life we are lacking behind, we can work on the things causing such setback and see the desired change we want, we can say that poverty is also when you're been silenced in the society and in your career or professional engagement, whereby your voice is not heard and you're not being fulfilled to carry your heart desired endeavors.

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