Is Roshtein fake money streamer or not?

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on November 19, 2022, 01:49:35 PM

I am a follower of Roshtein. From my perspective, I can say that he is a genius at his craft. I actually want to see more of him streaming. So I know the fact that there are various deals between casino and the streamer. Regardless, based from my conclusion everytime I watch his streams, I believe that the money that he is spending to play on Stake came from his own pocket.

I know it is hard to believe it. In my case, at first I did not believed that it is a "real" money, but then later on, I am convinced that the money is not fake. You can see how genuine his reactions are and how he behave on his next day stream almost everytime he had a big loss from his previous stream(s).

This guy, Roshtein, is different from other streamers.

You can't judge a content creator based on his reactions and how he behaves on stream, they know their work and they are pretty good at acting as well. If you are convinced that he uses his own money only because his reactions look genuine then you might have been convinced due to his acting. I'm not putting any blame on anyone, but that is what happens mostly.

Even if the streamers are using real money, that money is most probably sponsored by the casino itself since it is a pure promotion for them since there are thousands of people watching the stream and a lot of people follow that as well.

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Quote from: QueenVera on April 08, 2023, 04:58:48 PM

I've been a fan of Roshtein for a long time now and he has been so good with what he does and I really can't say that his monu are fake but they seem so real to me and he tries as much as possible to put this even in his videos, and if you really observe him very well especially after losing very heavy figure, you'll understand that on such cases, he tries as much as possible not let his losses after his next video which is a clear sign that he felt the impact of loss and since that's his work, he has no issue with betting again the next day or second
Whatever the case be, I love this guy and I would love to see more of his videos and streamings.

He is responsible for me losing so many times after seeing his videos as they gave me a boost of adrenaline and I immediately got and started playing those slots only soon to find out that I kept losing.I don't know if his money is true or fake at this point as there are several controversies about him that I just go and enjoy his videos when I need a boost to my moral after losing in slot machines.Luckily I have stopped playing slots and this time it looks like it is forever although I have only exactly 2 weeks without touching a slot machine.My favorite provider was Play n Go and Roshtein has a lot of videos with this provider winning huge amounts.

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I've been a fan of Roshtein for a long time now and he has been so good with what he does and I really can't say that his monu are fake but they seem so real to me and he tries as much as possible to put this even in his videos, and if you really observe him very well especially after losing very heavy figure, you'll understand that on such cases, he tries as much as possible not let his losses after his next video which is a clear sign that he felt the impact of loss and since that's his work, he has no issue with betting again the next day or second
Whatever the case be, I love this guy and I would love to see more of his videos and streamings.

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Quote from: kiwislotz on April 07, 2023, 07:04:26 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on November 21, 2022, 04:53:06 PM

Most gambling streamers are paid every stream, so there is a possibility that Roshtein has the same deal as the others that are doing the said content on their channels. You simply won't down a lot of money in something that you are endorsing, because that is counter-intuitive. Instead, you'll want to get money from that endorsement while creating content for them. That is the most logical thing to do, and it would be no surprise if this is the case. They just want to show you how 'good' it is to play on these platforms, but they don't want to put their money on the line—especially if they are known personalities already.

not true i have been streaming on twitch/youtube over the past 2 years and i have no stream deal with any casino.
an affiliate yes.
i do not make alot of money from affiliation and i work a 9-5 to fund it.

some are paid and some are not, depending on the initial agreement between the casino and the streamer.
In terms of slot streamers or other types of games, I don't know whether to use real money or fake money and whether you are also paid for each stream, which is definitely more fun to enjoy videos.
let it be their business if streaming using fake money or real money is not our business, what is certain is that the video is only for entertainment.

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 21, 2022, 04:53:06 PM

Most gambling streamers are paid every stream, so there is a possibility that Roshtein has the same deal as the others that are doing the said content on their channels. You simply won't down a lot of money in something that you are endorsing, because that is counter-intuitive. Instead, you'll want to get money from that endorsement while creating content for them. That is the most logical thing to do, and it would be no surprise if this is the case. They just want to show you how 'good' it is to play on these platforms, but they don't want to put their money on the line—especially if they are known personalities already.

not true i have been streaming on twitch/youtube over the past 2 years and i have no stream deal with any casino.
an affiliate yes.
i do not make alot of money from affiliation and i work a 9-5 to fund it.

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I enjoy most of his streamings and I can't really say fir sure if his real or genuine and just as the previous people has ready said earlier, most times these streamers have some deals with this casinos and depending on what the deal is, one can't for 100% sure and certain if a streamer is real or spends fake Money.

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For those who are interested on his offer, here is our chance to become a streamer as well,

https://twitter.com/ROSHTEINS/status/1600162143889813504

Chance of a lifetime offer and the person who will be chosen is going to be very lucky indeed as Roshteins are offering free mentorship, and who knows you could be the next biggest streamer out there, hehehehe.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on November 19, 2022, 01:49:35 PM

Quote from: I794 on November 19, 2022, 01:25:10 PM

Guys, what u think about it?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

I am a follower of Roshtein. From my perspective, I can say that he is a genius at his craft. I actually want to see more of him streaming. So I know the fact that there are various deals between casino and the streamer. Regardless, based from my conclusion everytime I watch his streams, I believe that the money that he is spending to play on Stake came from his own pocket.

I know it is hard to believe it. In my case, at first I did not believed that it is a "real" money, but then later on, I am convinced that the money is not fake. You can see how genuine his reactions are and how he behave on his next day stream almost everytime he had a big loss from his previous stream(s).

This guy, Roshtein, is different from other streamers.

You can't really be quite sure about it. Just because they behave like that, doesn't really mean that they are playing real money. Although for sure, there would be signs, but I'd just like to remind you that they could act depending on the character they want to portray in their stream. Some streamers are really paid well from making contents that promote the casino. Most of them, if not all, are given free money to spend in the casino to play and to make a good content for advertisement and promotion reasons.

Depending on their agreement on whether receiving free money outright just to play and make content or using the streamer's own money and then offering a reimbursement afterwards could be their deal. What I'm certain of is that both parties have a win-win situation because they are both benefiting from the set up. Streamers having more engagements means more supporters and more money. Meanwhile, being promoted by well-known streamers that have good reach on audience means more traffic on the casino website and more potential players and regulars that means more profit on their end.

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All of these things might be true but people generally watch for the host and the rest is gravy. They wont stay if they dont like watching that host, there are other similar gambling streams so I think that justifies it mostly though it would be ideal if people were open about all the smoke and mirrors used; a win is still a win as the game odds and chance of a win are observable.

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Quote from: acroman08 on December 01, 2022, 06:07:22 AM

Quote from: I794 on November 19, 2022, 01:25:10 PM

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

I won't be surprised if he was using sponsored money to gamble while streaming and I am pretty sure a lot of gambling streamers do the same thing. I know there are people who complain about it and say that they are deceiving their viewers but I don't really see anything wrong if streamers are using sponsored money.

If those streamers stated before they begin to gamble in their streams or at least there was a message somewhere this is the case I am sure many people will not have a problem with this, since then they will have all the information about the nature of the stream and they can decide whether to watch the stream or not, but if the streamers do not reveal this information and then it is later discovered that they are using play money or sponsored money then this is a way to deceive their audience and it is understandable they get mad about it.

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Quote from: I794 on November 19, 2022, 01:25:10 PM

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

Though we can share our opinions, no one knows the reality.
I also heard the same regarding streaming on fake money, and some people agreed on this as well, but on the other hand, some people think the oposite3 way.
Unfortunately, no one has some creditable information regarding the authenticity of the same.

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Quote from: Solosanz on November 29, 2022, 09:19:22 PM

I don't care if he's use fake money or real money on his stream, what I know is when I want to watch a streamer, I choose the one who very funny, active interaction with the viewers and don't make me bored. It doesn't make sense if I need to know the original source that he got his money, I'm pretty sure if you're rich from investing in Bitcoin and you're live in poor countries, your neighbors will judge you get the money from illegal source right?

I do the same. We are choosing show and i don`t care what money he use for it. Nothing changes for me as a spectator if it is "fake" money. If the streamer makes high quality content - i watch him.
And i think that it is a bad idea to blame someone without proves.

I certainly agree. Weather they're using real or fake money doesn't really matter to me as long as they're fun to watch. I watch streamers based on their skills and not on the type of money that they use to gamble. For sure there are lots of streamers who are using fake money to gamble just to promote a casino but I don't think that's a big deal because streamers are streaming to make money.

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Quote from: rodskee on November 30, 2022, 11:14:38 PM

Quote from: Findingnemo on November 30, 2022, 03:34:55 AM

Its not actually fake money, we need to describe it as sponsored money so the user himself is not risking any money on own, its completely provided by the casino to spread their words among the userbase and he will get paid for it and the concept is simple like you're getting paid from signature campaign to promote their casino name in bitcointalk.

actually it is not literally as fake money but looking at the concept ? yeah it is considered as fake because the way he promotes the gaming from that site uses the money that provided by the casino itself so it is the game and the money is fake .

and we cannot compare that to signature campaigning here in bitcointalk , because there is no game happening here and there is no fooling of people , we post regularly to be visible for potential players while the questioned one is making people believe that it is winnable to play on that particular casino with high percentage .

I used the word signature campaign because its kind of promotion and about the particular case its also the promotion but the only difference is the transparency level but we can't expect everything to be completely transparent when it comes to business and we can sense the influence by big companies to consume their products over the period of decades to get such a big brand today so that's how it works. If the person who you're following is good enough to tell the truth he is sponsored then he can be appreciated but this is just business so he doesn't mind what other thinking until everything goes fine.

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Quote from: Solosanz on November 29, 2022, 09:19:22 PM

I don't care if he's use fake money or real money on his stream, what I know is when I want to watch a streamer, I choose the one who very funny, active interaction with the viewers and don't make me bored. It doesn't make sense if I need to know the original source that he got his money, I'm pretty sure if you're rich from investing in Bitcoin and you're live in poor countries, your neighbors will judge you get the money from illegal source right?

I do the same. We are choosing show and i don`t care what money he use for it. Nothing changes for me as a spectator if it is "fake" money. If the streamer makes high quality content - i watch him.
And i think that it is a bad idea to blame someone without proves.

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Quote from: I794 on November 19, 2022, 01:25:10 PM

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

I won't be surprised if he was using sponsored money to gamble while streaming and I am pretty sure a lot of gambling streamers do the same thing. I know there are people who complain about it and say that they are deceiving their viewers but I don't really see anything wrong if streamers are using sponsored money.

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Quote from: joeperry on November 30, 2022, 03:20:03 AM

Those probably were real money but he can't withdraw it as he was only hired by the gambling site to play in the website as a part of the promotion but I really don't think that it was his money. In regards with the Twitch videos I think it was last year when the Twitch banned gambling sites in their site so it was no surprise that his videos were deleted. I am not just sure if he deleted it or the Twitch deleted it.

This is a new statement of yours about Roshtein Sir, I didn't think that his condition could be like that when he is doing live streaming on Twitch

or other social media platforms. There are so many comments here that almost all of them may have some truth in their opinions. But isn't

Roshtein's well-known influencers the only reason because if it's true, he's being given sponsorship at the casino that he will campaign on various

social media platforms.

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Quote from: I794 on November 19, 2022, 01:25:10 PM

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

Well the current situation further solidifies the notion that he bets on the sponsor's money and not from his own pocket. This makes him a fake money streamer. In my opinion twitch banning gambling streamers is gonna cost them a lot and my even put the streaming platform giant under, because a huge percentage of their in-house streamers are gamblers, and with this ban they are literally prohibiting streamers like Rosh from streaming. Not to mention they could've made some compromise where gambling streams could still be moderated one-way or another. In a business standpoint this is not good for twitch, but altogether this just means less platforms for some gambling companies to ever abuse their reach and get to people they aren't supposed to be catering towards.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on November 30, 2022, 03:34:55 AM

Its not actually fake money, we need to describe it as sponsored money so the user himself is not risking any money on own, its completely provided by the casino to spread their words among the userbase and he will get paid for it and the concept is simple like you're getting paid from signature campaign to promote their casino name in bitcointalk.

actually it is not literally as fake money but looking at the concept ? yeah it is considered as fake because the way he promotes the gaming from that site uses the money that provided by the casino itself so it is the game and the money is fake .

and we cannot compare that to signature campaigning here in bitcointalk , because there is no game happening here and there is no fooling of people , we post regularly to be visible for potential players while the questioned one is making people believe that it is winnable to play on that particular casino with high percentage .

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Quote from: Findingnemo on November 30, 2022, 03:34:55 AM

Its not actually fake money, we need to describe it as sponsored money so the user himself is not risking any money on own, its completely provided by the casino to spread their words among the userbase and he will get paid for it and the concept is simple like you're getting paid from signature campaign to promote their casino name in bitcointalk.

Fake or not it doesn't matter because its just their viewers is just take that thing deeply and I'm not surprised if he used fake or sponsorship money because for sure his main intention is to promote the casino and gain more viewers. Those streamers will not risk their money for the sake of having fun only, they do that to earn so maybe its good for viewers to look them up as one of entertainment source and not for hopes to earn money the same with the streamers they watch.

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