Topic: Is Roshtein fake money streamer or not? - page 2. (Read 920 times)
Its not actually fake money, we need to describe it as sponsored money so the user himself is not risking any money on own, its completely provided by the casino to spread their words among the userbase and he will get paid for it and the concept is simple like you're getting paid from signature campaign to promote their casino name in bitcointalk.
Those probably were real money but he can't withdraw it as he was only hired by the gambling site to play in the website as a part of the promotion but I really don't think that it was his money. In regards with the Twitch videos I think it was last year when the Twitch banned gambling sites in their site so it was no surprise that his videos were deleted. I am not just sure if he deleted it or the Twitch deleted it.
There have been rumors about this guy since 2019 that is a fake money streamer and was a big thread on reddit about him so I don't know ...the guy is pure entertaining but super mega shady. I have on rule on guys like him ...I don't trust anyone who wears a hat like that ...looks like a wizard and sometimes his charisma will get you so I preferred to never watch him again. Regarding Train...I have no respect for that guy whatsoever. , simply because there are tons of kids watching his stream that can also subscribe to him , when Rosh , doesn't have that feature implemented and I don't think Twitch will ever implement the subscribe button to his channel.
- I get and understand what you mean mate, of course, if he does a live stream for example on the Facebook platform many children can watch him on the FB platform. Now, there are just some of his viewers who don't care about what he does whether it's true or not.
Because there are viewers for whom Roshtein may be able to provide comfort to others and not to others. So they don't care if this livestreamer Roshtein has good intentions or not.
I don't care if he's use fake money or real money on his stream, what I know is when I want to watch a streamer, I choose the one who very funny, active interaction with the viewers and don't make me bored. It doesn't make sense if I need to know the original source that he got his money, I'm pretty sure if you're rich from investing in Bitcoin and you're live in poor countries, your neighbors will judge you get the money from illegal source right?
Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
Most streamers have some "rotten", as it is difficult to do lives frequently and have so many hits to the point of overcoming the risks.
Either with fake money or "sponsored" by the casinos themselves, I don't kid myself with that kind of people anymore and I prefer to place my bets on my own.
If Roshtein plays with counterfeit money? Probably yes, but we'll never know for sure until he makes some oversight or mistake that is noticeable by those watching.
Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
Frankly you should assume that anyone who is streaming gambling related content is going to be compensated by a gambling operation in some way. The commissions that gambling companies can afford to pay are some of the highest advertising rates you'll find. If you picture gambling sites are pure money making machines, because players pay so much in and very rarely take anything back out again, every new depositing customer they can get from any source is super valuable. There are lots of different ways it can be "faked" as well, credits simply added to the account so they're never playing with their own money or even an external contract where they get paid a sum to their bank for the service, then deposit it to make it look entirely natural.
Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
In essence, we do not know for sure that he is playing fake money or not. I'm not a Twitch user, so I can't make any conclusions or assumptions based on your story or from the YouTube views that you share. after Twitch bans casinos and streamers from showing their content, the streamers will automatically delete all videos and content containing gambling. so naturally, if he did the same.
I'm not a twitch user, so I don't really know about those streamers. actually on YouTube there are also many streamers who create gambling content, be it slots, dice, roulette, or whatever it is, we cannot conclude that they are playing with fake casino money. there is no hard evidence to support it. I have a friend, he make his content on youtube channel. his content is gambling, he often streams live when he plays slots, and he uses his own money. so, the conclusion. not all streamers, play with fake money.
Streamers work for money. If he get not enough money from stream - he get them from company. He can use money that he get due to contract, possible that casino gives him some money for gambling but i can`t call it "fake money" if he win - he got real money. How did he get it - it is another question and it isn`t about "fake money" as for me.
Or he use his referrals' income to gamble. Since there are million of subscribers and even more views, I believe he must make a huge amount of money reffering gamblers to casinos. In the end he uses this money to gamble on his videos without risking money from his own pocket. It's more like "free money" than "fake money". It's just a possibility, though. We can't confirm anything, because all the informations at our reach are purely speculative.Anyway, i think, that it is out of my business where he gets money. And i prefer to think that it is real money until i see proves that it isn`t so.
So, what I can say is this :
Every Saturday Eddie from Stake.com host a $50 000 giveaway, which is based on 1 ticket for every $1000 wagered for entry into the giveaway. He then draws the tickets live and when he reads out the 10 x $5000 winners... he indicates if the winner drawn..are an affiliate or not.
The rules of the Giveaway is, if you receive affiliate benefits, then you do not qualify for the $5000 ....and I have seen him draw Roshtein's tickets and then he re-draw that ticket, saying that Roshtein is an affiliate of Stake.com. (He does not specifically say, what those affiliate bonuses are)
Every Saturday Eddie from Stake.com host a $50 000 giveaway, which is based on 1 ticket for every $1000 wagered for entry into the giveaway. He then draws the tickets live and when he reads out the 10 x $5000 winners... he indicates if the winner drawn..are an affiliate or not.
The rules of the Giveaway is, if you receive affiliate benefits, then you do not qualify for the $5000 ....and I have seen him draw Roshtein's tickets and then he re-draw that ticket, saying that Roshtein is an affiliate of Stake.com. (He does not specifically say, what those affiliate bonuses are)
I can only say with Roshtein's live streaming, the chances are high that before he does a live stream, what he is going to do is scripted, the money he is using may be actually from the casino owner, and it is possible that the owner went through it. fund in Roshtein's bank account, then what the house edge will do on the platform he will play on is they will control how much money Roshtein will win. And after streaming, Roshtein can return the money and the only thing that will be given to him is the amount that they just negotiated.
But this is just my opinion and observation that it is possible that my guess about Roshtein may or may not be correct.
But this is just my opinion and observation that it is possible that my guess about Roshtein may or may not be correct.
Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
Let your friend said that and let your feeling believe on it , but the thing here is that He already stopped streaming so what is the main concern here ? considering that he is fake money streamer , what would you wanted to stablish here?I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
its already off so better leave it that way, and besides this is a trend in online casino , fake money using and fake people advertising for the site what we could get even worst?
and how come that they keep winning and very few that they lose? that is something unbelievable if you understand gambling that deep.
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He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.
it is given that this streamer uses fake money as he have connection with those casinos.
Searching for clues on the internet about whether Roshtein is a fake money streamer or not produces conflicting articles. There are articles that states that Roshetein is not a fake streamer and even enumerates the myth belief of people. It is kinda interesting but the article sounds like a release specifically to justify Roshtein actions. If you are interested on the article you can click it here.
So what are these myth belief that the article is talking about? To list it here:
Myth #1: Roshtein plays with fake money
Source: Is Roshtein Fake? Debunking Myths About the Most Popular Casino Streamer of 2021 | Gambling News Stories and Latest Online Casino News
Issue why Roshtein is labeled using fake money
Sadly the video on this is taken down.
Explanation of the writer:
That is the first myth and the one we are discussing in this thread. The reason why people believe that Roshtein is a fake money streamer is that he was caught surprised that his account balance is the same in both Demo and Real gameplay. That is really one huge piece of evidence that the balance of Roshtein is coming from the casino. I think the casino later explain that it was just a glitch but in my point of view, it is impossible to have such a glitch unless the Casino has done something to meddle with the balance. The article writer's explanation is a bullcrap IMO.
So what are these myth belief that the article is talking about? To list it here:
Myth #1: Roshtein plays with fake money
Source: Is Roshtein Fake? Debunking Myths About the Most Popular Casino Streamer of 2021 | Gambling News Stories and Latest Online Casino News
Issue why Roshtein is labeled using fake money
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All discussions of Roshtein’s alleged fake money playing start with the Practice mode video. In 2019, during a regular stream, a Twitch viewer asked Roshtein if he was playing for real cash or in the slot’s free demo mode using fake money. In reply, Roshtein said he was playing for real money. In order to prove this, he decided to open one of the casino slots in demo mode. Then the unexpected happened. His balance in the demo mode was equal to 22k euros, the same as when he played for real cash.
Sadly the video on this is taken down.
Explanation of the writer:
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Is the Practice mode video proof of Roshtein being fake? Let’s think critically for a second. If Roshtein was a fake blogger, would he risk losing his entire audience in a few seconds? After all, no one forced him to open the free demo mode. He simply decided to show one of the viewers what it looks like. What did Roshtein say about the Practice mode video? Roshtein commented on the Practice mode situation in the same VOD. He said he did not understand what happened and that it was some kind of an error.
That is the first myth and the one we are discussing in this thread. The reason why people believe that Roshtein is a fake money streamer is that he was caught surprised that his account balance is the same in both Demo and Real gameplay. That is really one huge piece of evidence that the balance of Roshtein is coming from the casino. I think the casino later explain that it was just a glitch but in my point of view, it is impossible to have such a glitch unless the Casino has done something to meddle with the balance. The article writer's explanation is a bullcrap IMO.
Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
He may very well be. Unless we have evidence there is no way of finding out. I do not think that the policy update on twitch is somehow meant for Roshtein alone. There has to be a better reason for their new rules. They allow some streaming of some betting but not other types. They also allow some casinos but not the ones mentioned in the list. Makes you wonder what exactly they are looking to avoid.
As far as the streamer Roshtein goes, I do not think there are any laws against him streaming for "entertainment purposes" as long as he does not give financial advice or promise returns on investments.
Never heard of gambling streamers getting in trouble with any regulators...
In the end, streamers get paid so much money for a reason to view certain websites and/or products. But I think there is also some truth to it and what they say. Depending on the industry in which they are involved, of course. I can't imagine a gambling site wanting to pay eur 10,000 for an honest review of a streamer, for example. Nowadays that is with streaming and extremely effective marketing method.
Streamers work for money. If he get not enough money from stream - he get them from company. He can use money that he get due to contract, possible that casino gives him some money for gambling but i can`t call it "fake money" if he win - he got real money. How did he get it - it is another question and it isn`t about "fake money" as for me.
Or he use his referrals' income to gamble. Since there are million of subscribers and even more views, I believe he must make a huge amount of money reffering gamblers to casinos. In the end he uses this money to gamble on his videos without risking money from his own pocket. It's more like "free money" than "fake money". It's just a possibility, though. We can't confirm anything, because all the informations at our reach are purely speculative.Anyway, i think, that it is out of my business where he gets money. And i prefer to think that it is real money until i see proves that it isn`t so.
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The casinos may pay those who promote online casinos to attract more people to their casinos. People who see the stream may not know about it and end up visiting the casino because they see the streamer can easily earn money. They think that they can also earn big winnings.
It is obvious, when a streamer and a casino had a deal, the casino will provide the bankroll while the streamer promote the gambling platform. Streamer even flash their affiliate link to track people who signed up under them. This is also one way for the casino to determine if the marketing is a success.
He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.
I think we must know the facts behind the streamers' bankrolls. Because more often than not, those who are watching the stream will try to emulate the action of the streamer. Knowing that the money used by streamers is sponsored, then the idea of viewers imitating the streamer will die down.
The casinos may pay those who promote online casinos to attract more people to their casinos. People who see the stream may not know about it and end up visiting the casino because they see the streamer can easily earn money. They think that they can also earn big winnings.
It is obvious, when a streamer and a casino had a deal, the casino will provide the bankroll while the streamer promote the gambling platform. Streamer even flash their affiliate link to track people who signed up under them. This is also one way for the casino to determine if the marketing is a success.
He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.
I think we must know the facts behind the streamers' bankrolls. Because more often than not, those who are watching the stream will try to emulate the action of the streamer. Knowing that the money used by streamers is sponsored, then the idea of viewers imitating the streamer will die down.
My rule of thumb is that most of streamers use fake money or a mix of actual funds and bonuses provided by the casino.
If the streamer favors an specific casino over others, it would be easy to assume there is some deal going on behind the scenes, it is the same with those webpages to gamble with Counter Strike skins and cosmetic objects. I have read about cases where very popular youtubers record themselves gambling on platforms they personally ownership over, of course, they do not disclose this fact to their viewers.
If the streamer favors an specific casino over others, it would be easy to assume there is some deal going on behind the scenes, it is the same with those webpages to gamble with Counter Strike skins and cosmetic objects. I have read about cases where very popular youtubers record themselves gambling on platforms they personally ownership over, of course, they do not disclose this fact to their viewers.
True, if a streamer favors a casino or always plays on the same casino in his stream, there is a huge possibility that the streamer is sponsored and that the money he is using to wager is from the casino and not from his own pocket. Those who are not sponsored by casino will play in different casino in order to search for his lucky platform where he can win easily.
My rule of thumb is that most of streamers use fake money or a mix of actual funds and bonuses provided by the casino.
If the streamer favors an specific casino over others, it would be easy to assume there is some deal going on behind the scenes, it is the same with those webpages to gamble with Counter Strike skins and cosmetic objects. I have read about cases where very popular youtubers record themselves gambling on platforms they personally ownership over, of course, they do not disclose this fact to their viewers.
If the streamer favors an specific casino over others, it would be easy to assume there is some deal going on behind the scenes, it is the same with those webpages to gamble with Counter Strike skins and cosmetic objects. I have read about cases where very popular youtubers record themselves gambling on platforms they personally ownership over, of course, they do not disclose this fact to their viewers.
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Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?
I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
Let your friend said that and let your feeling believe on it , but the thing here is that He already stopped streaming so what is the main concern here ? considering that he is fake money streamer , what would you wanted to stablish here?I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.
After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?
https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow
its already off so better leave it that way, and besides this is a trend in online casino , fake money using and fake people advertising for the site what we could get even worst?
He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.
There have been rumors about this guy since 2019 that is a fake money streamer and was a big thread on reddit about him so I don't know ...the guy is pure entertaining but super mega shady. I have on rule on guys like him ...I don't trust anyone who wears a hat like that ...looks like a wizard and sometimes his charisma will get you so I preferred to never watch him again. Regarding Train...I have no respect for that guy whatsoever. , simply because there are tons of kids watching his stream that can also subscribe to him , when Rosh , doesn't have that feature implemented and I don't think Twitch will ever implement the subscribe button to his channel.
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