Topic: Is Roshtein fake money streamer or not? - page 5. (Read 901 times)

I don’t understand exactly what’s the importance of determining whether the streamer is using real money or fake because it’s his personal deal to the casino and has no responsibility to disclose to us there deal just to satisfy our curiosity. There’s no benefits for us to pursue this curiosity since they probably have NDA before they become partnered streamer.

You enjoy his stream and that’s the most important thing. You don’t risk any money on the guy so just move on.

That will be the secret because we can only guess and never know. And if he does play, even using his own money, that's up to him. But maybe some streamers have contracted with casinos to promote their sites and maybe those streamers get paid or free money to play. And even if they lose, it will mean nothing to them because they don't spend money to play gambling and attract many people to become followers or to play in the casinos it promotes.

Is it possible to play the game with "fake" money? In my opinion, the money used by the streamers is real money, funded by the casino but the streamers has no full control over the money. They can use to play games in the casino but they are not allowed to withdraw it. However I dont really care about it, it does not matter whether they are using fake or real money. I dont even like to watch such gambling live streamers who bet big all the time.

It's because Twitch was ban gambling and few casinos including Stake, so he doesn't stream anymore. The reason why he do stream is he get paid by Stake for his advertisement, if Stake didn't pay fees for him, why he need to advertise Stake and stream again? you wouldn't get any profit if you keep playing slots due to house edge. I'm pretty sure when he already find a good stream site that allow gambling and Stake want to pay him fees, he will continue to stream.

I'm enough with fake money or real money, don't discuss about it since that's still a rumor.

I'd still say most (if not all) streamers who gamble are actually paid for their losses (or have a set amount casinos give them to play with). The reason they can make it even with that is their ability to create a stunt or reaction that would still relate to the users, regardless if it was their money or not, and that's their craft, does leave a bad taste though since some people think they can hit it big like them with no risks involved. Though I'd say most of their following actually just stem from people trying to win their giveaways.

As for him not streaming anymore, I reckon any sort of streamer similar to him wouldn't be able to with Twitch's guidelines. Nor is it allowed in Youtube, which are two of the biggest platforms so I reckon they're still looking for alternatives right now.

I personally believe if that was fake money aka demo account given by the gambling owner. the streamer has a contract with the gambling sites to promote it through doing regular live. Think about that how easy the owner of site to fulfill your account with so much money in the balance form.


Pretty much the same as some local gambling streamers in my country, all of the comments were full of people chasing giveaways (or maybe bots). I can't deny some might be watching him for entertainment purposes like me.

Seeing how easy any streamer like roshtein to win big bonus makes me think if it looks unreal. Local gambling streamer in my country was also getting max win so easy. But this is how marketing through streamer works. I do believe mostly of streamers used WSO (Winrate Slot Online account)

Possible, it's either:

1. own money
2. money paid by his sponsor

Not sure though, maybe he was streaming on other platforms like Clive?

And this streamers are being paid huge amount of money so it's unlikely that they will suddenly disappear. And as per his tweet:



https://twitter.com/ROSHTEINS/status/1592874103098474496

So that is probably a hint already that he will be back soon.

Well, the thing is, most of the videos, or better put , streams we watch that involves playing with huge amount of money is fake, though like yahoo said, we can never know 100 percent, but the thing is that we should never believe everything we see on streams to be true, most are fake and are designed for nothing but to lure watchers into playing with monies they probably can not afford to loss in the name risking it all to win it big.
This has destroyed alot of gamblers and caused alot of others to become super addicted due to chasing losses.

Most that watch aren't watching because they love the streamer but more because they're moving from stream to stream chasing the giveaway. That's 1 thing that helps their numbers as far as subs goes. They do x amount of giveaways per stream.

All the big streamers (Xposed, Roshtein, ...) are playing with money that is not really theirs and is funded by the casino. Before Xposed moved to Stake, all his losses were covered by Roobet and he could keep 25% of all the winnings (source: https://gamerempire.net/what-gambling-site-does-xposed-use-to-bet/).
So even though it can be considered as "fake money" it is still entertaining to watch!

This is the fact, unless the streamer himself admits we can't get into conclusion whether he's playing with real money or fake money. Streamers play a great role in attracting users towards the respective platform. At times the bets looks to be completely against the reality, still we believe in it. This is how common man's mind. Streamers are paid good and as said in one of the post if one can broadcast his deposit it can be believed that he's playing real game.

I mean if someone can play with free money instead and you wouldn't know the difference, why wouldn't they? And Roshtein sure looks like fake it till you make it guy with that 5 year anniversary luxury glamour videos. Money attracts money, even if that money would be fake.
Then there's the issue that they are probably under investigation by tax officials and officials tracking their income. At leat to them they need to tell what's real and what's the show.
Many influencers keep a role of being rich as attracts money, but maybe not as much as they would people like to know.

Obviously this is just me guessing. Who knows, maybe i am just skeptic and some influencers just have made it.

I also think that Roshtein is sponsored.  So he is playing with the casino's or someone's money which can be considered "fake money".  I do agree with @yahoo62278 that he is getting a commission on his stream, either through the percentage of the result of his gambling session or the number of viewers of his stream.  And of course, all we can do is speculate.  But there are lots of articles about him that seems to show that he is not a fake money streamer.  But as obvious as it is, how can he maintain being a high roller if there is no one sponsoring his streams?

When the bank roll is high they usually can't fully withdraw all their winnings unlike what you said, but only a percentage of them like 10%, someone has made a thread about the different deals offered by casinos to streamers. Being paid by a percentage on their winnings allows them to look super happy when they make some good winnings during their streams while letting them showing big amounts on their screen.

No matter who the streamer is, it's always going to be hard to prove their legitimacy unless they outright admit that they are using a fill balance or something alike.
A lot of streamers are on deals where they are paid X amount weekly/monthly and are able to gamble with this as they choose to do so, and the winnings are fully withdrawable.

Some streamers are on deals where they are given infinite refills of money every X amount of minutes or whenever their balance reaches 0, these are the streamers that personally I don't understand how users can watch them as it is as far away from the reality of gambling as you can get.

Not speaking on specific people, I think the only transparency you can hope for with crypto casino streamers is they show you them depositing and withdrawing on stream or even publicising their deposit transaction id's which users can look at themselves, as well as also showing an organic growth in terms of their bet sizes.

^No one will use their own money for the sake of the content, it should be sponsored money that comes from the company and we don't know their agreement. That is not fake money, that is sponsored money that comes from the gambling company, they use it for marketing purposes only and as you can see, sometimes streamers like this have better odds but I don't know if odds can be manipulated because they always win. However, as stated above, we don't know what is their agreement, so this is only a conclusion towards them.

Could it be Roshtein streams using demo account during most live broadcasts because there are claims that the balance never changes. What marvels most is that his stakes are always high. It is still a strong debate if he is a high roller or fake but there are no solid claims to which side to classify him but yet his followers keeps increasing i think this isn't clear at all.

I cannot support any of it if it is real or not but I can say that he can confirm it himself if he would do it. There's only two things I can think of, it's either not his own pocket money or his own pocket money that is used to gamble in stake. It could be true that there is an agreement between him and stake which stake will provide the funds to be used to gamble and he must gamble in stake which will help spreading the name stake for other gamblers to know it's existence.

I was scammed by a casino owner, the casino name was Bitlucy. Anyone who knows me on the forum know what happened with me. Some believe and some does not, I do not care anymore now. Eventually the owner scammed many clients, including me. The whole incident effected my real life and virtual life with that my financial status too. However, the bright side of every loss was to gather huge experience from this unfortunate event.

None of the streamers play with real money. Depending on their channel's popularity the casino owners offer them credit balance. All numbers are relative and depending on the level of bargain they come to an agreement with each others.

If someone has 5M subs then they will get $50k, $100k or even $1M credit. Someone with 1k sub may be offered $100 or even $150. You get the idea.

There are conditions for them to be able to cash it out. A condition of wagering x times. x could be 20, 30, 40, 50
When someone is lucky they actually make good amount of money. Sometimes the casino owner will give another condition of able to withdraw a maximum amount. In that case, even after the successful required wager, the streamer only can withdraw the maximum amount that was allowed to him and casino owner will remove the rest of the balance.

A casino needs traffic and clients. The streamers provide it to the casino. It's a win - win for both. The strategy works very well.

Just like you, I also think that they are playing with fake money. I have more trust and faith in streamers who only buy bonus buys for small money ($20 - $1K looks more real). But as @yahoo62278 has said above that whatever our opinion is to say that they use fake money to play, the fact is we don't know for sure 100%.