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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

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But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives.

You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation.

Science has created modern society not religion.

This is the whole point about big bang theory.

There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him.

Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real.

Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves.

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So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it

I didn't even know you had a book. What does your book say is true?

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I didn't say I had a book

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Quote from: Gimpeline on February 19, 2017, 03:39:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 03:35:21 PM

Quote from: markj113 on February 19, 2017, 03:29:34 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:56:47 PM

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

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But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives.

You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation.

Science has created modern society not religion.

This is the whole point about big bang theory.

There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him.

Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real.

Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves.

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So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it

I didn't even know you had a book. What does your book say is true?

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Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 03:35:21 PM

Quote from: markj113 on February 19, 2017, 03:29:34 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:56:47 PM

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

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But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives.

You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation.

Science has created modern society not religion.

This is the whole point about big bang theory.

There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him.

Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real.

Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves.

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So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it

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Quote from: markj113 on February 19, 2017, 03:29:34 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:56:47 PM

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

Cool

But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives.

You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation.

Science has created modern society not religion.

This is the whole point about big bang theory.

There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him.

Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real.

Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:56:47 PM

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

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But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives.

You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation.

Science has created modern society not religion and as more people become educated those that follow religion continue to fall away.

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Quote from: Gimpeline on February 19, 2017, 03:15:01 PM

No it isn't. Stop lying

Okay. Keep on lying. After all, from the definition #6: something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.

For sure those atheists that adamantly push their atheism forward have a religion of atheism.

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No it isn't. Stop lying

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Quote from: Gimpeline on February 19, 2017, 03:05:21 PM

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Quote from: Iranus on February 19, 2017, 11:06:13 AM

No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.

Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

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Stop lying. That link is about religion, not atheism.

You stop lying. The info in the definition of religion includes atheism as a religion, without saying atheism.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:56:47 PM

Quote from: Iranus on February 19, 2017, 11:06:13 AM

No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.

Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

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Stop lying. That link is about religion, not atheism.

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Quote from: Iranus on February 19, 2017, 11:06:13 AM

No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.

Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

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No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.

Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 19, 2017, 10:17:30 AM

In my opinion, scientists can only discover things created already by our creator, God.
They can't create anything but only repeat things from the God's creation.
If can't explain something, scientists makes theory.
Theory is their belief, but not proof.
So, yes, science is also kind of religion.
Any way, scientists can only research created universe (from the moment of creation).
They can't research before creation (before time and space), so they are limited really and should be humble before the Creator, God.
Only God knows everything.

Scientists search the universe we live in. This definition is correct. Everything in science begins with theories. I would advise you to investigate the scientific theory.
Is the theory of gravity a belief in you? Or is the theory of evolution a belief?

You also said that the constant universe was created by God. Do you have any proof for that?
Have you developed a theory in this regard?

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Quote from: st0nefish on February 19, 2017, 09:18:53 AM

Quote from: kodes88 on February 19, 2017, 08:11:15 AM

No, not all science is a religion, but all are in the science of religion. All the knowledge that exists and has spread around the world to learn from religion, even that does not exist yet is being learned through religion. Religion is the main yanng of all the science that exist in the world. There will be no science if there is no religion.

I think you're joking. How do you say it will not be science without religion? Scientists do not use religious arguments when conducting research. They work with the terminology of science.

Many of the information revealed in the scientific works contradicts those in the religious books. How do you explain this?

If kodes88 is joking, he shouldn't be. Why not? Because everybody lives by religion. People who say they don't, simply have a religion of non-religion. The definition of religion shows this. The closest one can come to having no religion is being a mental vegetable.

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In my opinion, scientists can only discover things created already by our creator, God.
They can't create anything but only repeat things from the God's creation.
If can't explain something, scientists makes theory.
Theory is their belief, but not proof.
So, yes, science is also kind of religion.
Any way, scientists can only research created universe (from the moment of creation).
They can't research before creation (before time and space), so they are limited really and should be humble before the Creator, God.
Only God knows everything.

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Quote from: kodes88 on February 19, 2017, 08:11:15 AM

No, not all science is a religion, but all are in the science of religion. All the knowledge that exists and has spread around the world to learn from religion, even that does not exist yet is being learned through religion. Religion is the main yanng of all the science that exist in the world. There will be no science if there is no religion.

I think you're joking. How do you say it will not be science without religion? Scientists do not use religious arguments when conducting research. They work with the terminology of science.

Many of the information revealed in the scientific works contradicts those in the religious books. How do you explain this?

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No, not all science is a religion, but all are in the science of religion. All the knowledge that exists and has spread around the world to learn from religion, even that does not exist yet is being learned through religion. Religion is the main yanng of all the science that exist in the world. There will be no science if there is no religion.

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I remember a dialog from a movie (Contact). Dialog was like this. "Ironically, the thing people are most hungry for - meaning - is the one thing science hasn't been able to give them."

Religions mostly give meaning. But science can not... So i can not consider science as a religion.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on February 18, 2017, 06:13:15 PM

Damn, this conciousness is drowning me in just by reading these post. By the way, science for me is not a religion. It is a study of the physical and natural world.
It is not a religion, there are no priest or bishops, but there are scientists and geniuses. There are no churches or other places to praise the god but there are experiment rooms and other observatories.
Science is the solution of every problem that these world has. There are few problems in these world that science cant explain, but I know everything will be explained by science, there are just some discoveries that are not yet discovered but if it is discovered, that will be a door for a new discovery relating to everything.

This is really good. The people of the world and of science need more people like you. People who understand that big bang, black hole, relativity, evolution, and a whole bunch of other theories are not fact.

People get too hung up on these theories as though they are fact, when it is not know that they are fact, and when some of them should be even dropped as theory, because it has been proven that they will never be determined to be fact, even if they really are factual.

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Damn, this conciousness is drowning me in just by reading these post. By the way, science for me is not a religion. It is a study of the physical and natural world.
It is not a religion, there are no priest or bishops, but there are scientists and geniuses. There are no churches or other places to praise the god but there are experiment rooms and other observatories.
Science is the solution of every problem that these world has. There are few problems in these world that science cant explain, but I know everything will be explained by science, there are just some discoveries that are not yet discovered but if it is discovered, that will be a door for a new discovery relating to everything.

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Science is not a religion. In classical belief systems, you accept without question. But science is based on experimentation and observation. Scientists are questioning. Scientific theories develop over time. But belief systems are not changed.

Science != Religion

I agree with you on part of science. Science is facts and hard evidance, so in sciend there is eithar truth or false answer. But religion is not blind belief, for some people that is. There are those who choose to be blind. But there is also questioning in religion, there is diferent understanding of same sentence. Religion is not something that you need to believe blindly, well that is what I think.

A person who begins to question the religion becomes an atheist over time. Because religious arguments and scientific arguments are in conflict with each other.
If one starts to question the religion, it will reject the religion . Because religions want their ideas to be accepted without questioning.

Science always encourages interrogation.

I have to agree with you there that mostly religion is ran by faith while science by reason. Though i don't really agree that these two can't go along with each other. Sometimes, people have to believe in something that they can't really explain to be better persons. I myself prefer proof before i believe in something but there are times when you just have to take a leap of faith.

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