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February 03, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
hmmm , relegion And science is a continuity of thought, religion without science is meaningless, and vice versa. I hope these two guidelines will be running live in harmony, without which superior in one science think
you are right, but think with some things that have no meaning in science and religion, they argue without end, and do not have a heck discordant in science

yes they argue without coachman, running without a driver, maybe some things will ruin this world, science and religion fight each other


but many thinkers homage to religion and science, for example, al-Ghazali, he was also a philosopher, there also have contradictions in science and religion is Galileo Galilei.

of course ,I agree with your opinion. and I will add karl marx, he describes some class, and the class struggle, the book Das Kapital, and 7 the holy family, karl marx describes ne
it turns out you also know karl marx? , Was amazing, did you also read a book about the dialectic of nature works engels?
legendary
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February 03, 2017, 09:56:40 PM
hmmm , relegion And science is a continuity of thought, religion without science is meaningless, and vice versa. I hope these two guidelines will be running live in harmony, without which superior in one science think
you are right, but think with some things that have no meaning in science and religion, they argue without end, and do not have a heck discordant in science

yes they argue without coachman, running without a driver, maybe some things will ruin this world, science and religion fight each other


but many thinkers homage to religion and science, for example, al-Ghazali, he was also a philosopher, there also have contradictions in science and religion is Galileo Galilei.

of course ,I agree with your opinion. and I will add karl marx, he describes some class, and the class struggle, the book Das Kapital, and 7 the holy family, karl marx describes ne
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February 03, 2017, 09:53:39 PM
hmmm , relegion And science is a continuity of thought, religion without science is meaningless, and vice versa. I hope these two guidelines will be running live in harmony, without which superior in one science think
you are right, but think with some things that have no meaning in science and religion, they argue without end, and do not have a heck discordant in science

yes they argue without coachman, running without a driver, maybe some things will ruin this world, science and religion fight each other


but many thinkers homage to religion and science, for example, al-Ghazali, he was also a philosopher, there also have contradictions in science and religion is Galileo Galilei.
legendary
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February 03, 2017, 09:50:34 PM
hmmm , relegion And science is a continuity of thought, religion without science is meaningless, and vice versa. I hope these two guidelines will be running live in harmony, without which superior in one science think
you are right, but think with some things that have no meaning in science and religion, they argue without end, and do not have a heck discordant in science

yes they argue without coachman, running without a driver, maybe some things will ruin this world, science and religion fight each other
sr. member
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February 03, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
hmmm , relegion And science is a continuity of thought, religion without science is meaningless, and vice versa. I hope these two guidelines will be running live in harmony, without which superior in one science think
you are right, but think with some things that have no meaning in science and religion, they argue without end, and do not have a heck discordant in science
legendary
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February 03, 2017, 09:45:13 PM
hmmm , relegion And science is a continuity of thought, religion without science is meaningless, and vice versa. I hope these two guidelines will be running live in harmony, without which superior in one science think
legendary
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February 03, 2017, 09:28:31 PM
Science doesn't have beliefs it has theories. Those are two different things.

Belief in God for Christians is a sure thing. In their hearts and minds the know that God exists no matter what evidence you provide to the contrary.

A Theory is an idea about how something works. Everyone in science knows its not fact but a possibility.

So you see, if a Christian or other deity worshiper believed in the big bang theory they would know its a fact and without a doubt in their mind its proof. While science knows its just a possibility of creation and probably the best idea there is thus far.


When scientists or anyone else believes that the things expressed by science theories are reality and factual, they have a religion going for themselves. You can find lots of people who have turned science into a religion for themselves by  reading through the links on this page: https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html.

Of course, nobody knows for sure if these people believe the theories to be fact, or if they are simply liars when they treat the theories as though they were fact.

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Science theories are not believed until proven SO Grin..So stop making things up BADLOGIC..

How many times am I going to have to show you this link https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html, where there are links to many pages where people talk like they believe big bang is fact, while it is just theory or less?

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legendary
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February 03, 2017, 05:21:20 PM
Science doesn't have beliefs it has theories. Those are two different things.

Belief in God for Christians is a sure thing. In their hearts and minds the know that God exists no matter what evidence you provide to the contrary.

A Theory is an idea about how something works. Everyone in science knows its not fact but a possibility.

So you see, if a Christian or other deity worshiper believed in the big bang theory they would know its a fact and without a doubt in their mind its proof. While science knows its just a possibility of creation and probably the best idea there is thus far.


When scientists or anyone else believes that the things expressed by science theories are reality and factual, they have a religion going for themselves. You can find lots of people who have turned science into a religion for themselves by  reading through the links on this page: https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html.

Of course, nobody knows for sure if these people believe the theories to be fact, or if they are simply liars when they treat the theories as though they were fact.

Cool
Science theories are not believed until proven SO Grin..So stop making things up BADLOGIC..
legendary
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February 03, 2017, 05:06:46 PM
Mmm, lets dig deeper here.

When scientists or anyone else believes that the things expressed by science theories are reality and factual, they have a religion going for themselves.
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So here your saying religion is a belief or set of beliefs that cannot be proved to be factual, right? That's your definition of religion.

Of course, nobody knows for sure if these people believe the theories to be fact, or if they are simply liars when they treat the theories as though they were fact.

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Now your saying that people that treat theories as fact are liars, so the same rule must apply to religious people that treat their beliefs as fact, right? Stand to reason.


Since you treat Christian mythology as factual, that means by your logic, you're a liar.
To make matters worse, as we both know, theories are superior to mythology as theories are based on observations and experiments and mythology is based on blind wishful thinking, blind guess work and not forgetting a dollop of pseudoscience to keep the scientifically illiterate happy.

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legendary
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February 03, 2017, 03:27:07 PM
Science doesn't have beliefs it has theories. Those are two different things.

Belief in God for Christians is a sure thing. In their hearts and minds the know that God exists no matter what evidence you provide to the contrary.

A Theory is an idea about how something works. Everyone in science knows its not fact but a possibility.

So you see, if a Christian or other deity worshiper believed in the big bang theory they would know its a fact and without a doubt in their mind its proof. While science knows its just a possibility of creation and probably the best idea there is thus far.


When scientists or anyone else believe that the things expressed by science theories are reality and factual, they have a religion going for themselves. You can find lots of people who have turned science into a religion for themselves by  reading through the links on this page: https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html.

Of course, nobody knows for sure if these people believe the theories to be fact, or if they are simply liars when they treat the theories as though they were fact.

Cool
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February 03, 2017, 02:47:50 PM
Science doesn't have beliefs it has theories. Those are two different things.

Belief in God for Christians is a sure thing. In their hearts and minds the know that God exists no matter what evidence you provide to the contrary.

A Theory is an idea about how something works. Everyone in science knows its not fact but a possibility.

So you see, if a Christian or other deity worshiper believed in the big bang theory they would know its a fact and without a doubt in their mind its proof. While science knows its just a possibility of creation and probably the best idea there is thus far.


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February 03, 2017, 02:12:58 PM
The way I see it, religion and science, faith and knowledge are two basic and essential aspects of the human spirit, which move in different planes, parallel or intersecting, but not mismatched. First I should note that there is no issue of contradiction or conflict between them. Religion and science are two great intellectual figures complementary and not mutually exclusive. These are two manifestations of the human spirit that move at different levels. They have autonomous areas of interest and research.
Any belief contrary to science. This is the reason that in science nothing is accepted on faith and prove his innocence by experience and discussion. And faith is built on authoritarian recognition of God without evidence.
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February 03, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
The way I see it, religion and science, faith and knowledge are two basic and essential aspects of the human spirit, which move in different planes, parallel or intersecting, but not mismatched. First I should note that there is no issue of contradiction or conflict between them. Religion and science are two great intellectual figures complementary and not mutually exclusive. These are two manifestations of the human spirit that move at different levels. They have autonomous areas of interest and research.
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February 02, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
Science is not religion. religion needs believe, and religion is scientific

Do understand the science of big bang theory? Do you believe those who tell you about it? Science has believe. Science is religion.

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thats what he is talking about. maybe you just dont understand what he or she trying to say. but you have only the same thought. science is a religion science need to believe and realigion also needs faith so you two just said that religion is science or vice versa. we need to understand each other so we could be productive.
legendary
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January 28, 2017, 07:14:42 PM
??Now I am smilled like never before hehe little confused science a religion?You are funny person really very funny.No science isnt a religion ,science is science I mean science is which scientists like and they are doing things to discover more things about our world and all universe because it can be really useful for all humans which are not humaneaters or from other civilization which dont have nothing with modern world.Religion is like example christianity,jewish,budism,islam but science can only proof us that something exist.Science is connected with religion because it show us how things from Bibilia exist and it gives us more gifts from God.

But when scientists guess about things, they have a theory.
When their theory is believed even though it is guesswork, they have a religion.
Science is a religion for those who believe science theory to be true.

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When their theory is believed..It's not believed until it's been proven so..
So bang goes your theory about theory..

Look through the sites listed here https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html to see how many times the authors state that big bang theory is fact. It isn't just a few. Yet big bang is still a theory.

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Of course that big bang is theory.
We can try to research creation but can't go beyond that.
We can't recreate time before creation, only creator can.
We are also created being, and only our creator, God, can answer all this questions to us.
But he already did, in Bible and other holy books Smiley



Universes are not as simple as you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO4uzgiRHkE

legendary
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February 02, 2017, 07:43:31 PM
God was never a scientific theory..

As headlines go, it's certainly an eye-catching one. "Scientists Prove Existence of God," German daily Die Welt wrote last week.


But unsurprisingly, there is a rather significant caveat to that claim. In fact, what the researchers in question say they have actually proven is a theorem put forward by renowned Austrian mathematician Kurt Gödel -- and the real news isn't about a Supreme Being, but rather what can now be achieved in scientific fields using superior technology.

When Gödel died in 1978, he left behind a tantalizing theory based on principles of modal logic -- that a higher being must exist. The details of the mathematics involved in Gödel's ontological proof are complicated, but in essence the Austrian was arguing that, by definition, God is that for which no greater can be conceived. And while God exists in the understanding of the concept, we could conceive of him as greater if he existed in reality. Therefore, he must exist.


Renowned scientist, Michio Kaku, has released a video in which he claims to offer scientific proof for the existence of God.

Michio Kaku: Is God a Mathematician? - YouTube
Video for Michio Kaku video of god▶ 5:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jremlZvNDuk
2 Jan 2013 - Uploaded by Big Think
Michio Kaku says that God could be a mathematician: "The mind of God we believe is cosmic music, the .


SEE EVEN SMART PEOPLE WITH DEGREES..Can be stupid Wink..

Such a long way around saying the simple thing, that you are stupid. I guess that is what stupid people do.

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Stupid is as stupid does..And i don't pray Grin.
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February 02, 2017, 07:13:24 PM
- https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology

Logical discourse, the theory of knowledge, dictates that all knowledge is at best justified belief.

So, in reality, it is impossible to truly know anything.

Therefore, if Science = Knowledge and Religion = Belief

then where all knowledge is at best justified belief, yes that would make Science a Religion of Justified Belief.   Grin



P;
S believes that P;
if P were false, S would not believe that P;
if P is true, S will believe that P.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 09:23:57 PM
Science is not religion. religion needs believe, and religion is scientific

Do understand the science of big bang theory? Do you believe those who tell you about it? Science has believe. Science is religion.

Cool
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February 01, 2017, 08:55:52 PM
Science is not religion. religion needs believe, and religion is scientific
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 29, 2017, 01:08:13 AM
God was never a scientific theory..

As headlines go, it's certainly an eye-catching one. "Scientists Prove Existence of God," German daily Die Welt wrote last week.


But unsurprisingly, there is a rather significant caveat to that claim. In fact, what the researchers in question say they have actually proven is a theorem put forward by renowned Austrian mathematician Kurt Gödel -- and the real news isn't about a Supreme Being, but rather what can now be achieved in scientific fields using superior technology.

When Gödel died in 1978, he left behind a tantalizing theory based on principles of modal logic -- that a higher being must exist. The details of the mathematics involved in Gödel's ontological proof are complicated, but in essence the Austrian was arguing that, by definition, God is that for which no greater can be conceived. And while God exists in the understanding of the concept, we could conceive of him as greater if he existed in reality. Therefore, he must exist.


Renowned scientist, Michio Kaku, has released a video in which he claims to offer scientific proof for the existence of God.

Michio Kaku: Is God a Mathematician? - YouTube
Video for Michio Kaku video of god▶ 5:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jremlZvNDuk
2 Jan 2013 - Uploaded by Big Think
Michio Kaku says that God could be a mathematician: "The mind of God we believe is cosmic music, the .


SEE EVEN SMART PEOPLE WITH DEGREES..Can be stupid Wink..

Such a long way around saying the simple thing, that you are stupid. I guess that is what stupid people do.

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