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Quote from: Blackmet on April 18, 2016, 09:17:10 PM

Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books.

It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see.

Feel free to comment.

Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion.

What?!

Science barely explains anything around the world. And when it explains anything in detail, it gets so complicated and convoluted that nobody can understand what it is saying.

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Religion explains everything about the world. And it describes nothing in any detail that anyone can understand, so important religious books can be interpreted different by different scholars -- leading to radically different explanations of how the world works.

Science may not explain everything, but at least it is internally consistent.

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Quote from: romero121 on April 19, 2016, 09:52:31 AM

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Quote from: Blackmet on April 18, 2016, 09:17:10 PM

Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books.

It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see.

Feel free to comment.

Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion.

What?!

Science barely explains anything around the world. And when it explains anything in detail, it gets so complicated and convoluted that nobody can understand what it is saying.

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Quote from: JesusHadAegis on April 19, 2016, 09:08:33 AM

Quote from: Blackmet on April 18, 2016, 09:17:10 PM

Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books.

It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see.

Feel free to comment.

Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion.

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Quote from: Blackmet on April 18, 2016, 09:17:10 PM

Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books.

It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see.

Feel free to comment.

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Quote from: Tusk on April 18, 2016, 03:14:47 PM

If science is based on mathematics and mathematics is supernatural, does that not make science supernatural?

Science is not fully based on mathematics. They only use math to do computations to prove their theory and to solve other stuffs. But there are science stuffs that does not base on mathematics. So even if we assume that math is supernatural, science will not be supernatural as well.

Quote from: Blackmet on April 18, 2016, 09:17:10 PM

Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

Not everyone though. IMO, when relating to God there are 3 kinds of scientists:

1. Scientists who uses science to prove that Jesus did not exist at all and all the other stuffs that he did are either explainable by science or not real.

2. Scientists who try to dig deeper in the history and prove the existence of Jesus Christ.

3. Scientists who fully don't care about God and other religious stuffs. They just concentrate in discovering and inventing things. Grin

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Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.

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Quote from: AzibLala007 on April 18, 2016, 01:20:10 PM

science is never like a religion because it has no boundries.
and in science you have to hurt people.
it will never be a religion.

God has no bounds, or boundaries, as you say. He is limitless. But science is limited by the things that it can find out.

If you think that science has to hurt people, do you mean like when the housewife calls her range science, and then burns her hand on it?

Science is a religion because people trust in it like they should be trusting in God.

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If science is based on mathematics and mathematics is supernatural, does that not make science supernatural?

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science is never like a religion because it has no boundries.
and in science you have to hurt people.
it will never be a religion.

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Quote from: KennyR on April 18, 2016, 12:25:20 PM

Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on April 17, 2016, 06:25:56 AM

science is not religion. science is a field of science that studies the science on this earth. while religion is a spiritual bond between man and his god. it was clearly different.

Both were clearly described, Truly science is not a religion because its based upon the innovation and technology of the proofs. Religion is just based upon the bonding which happens without any reason.

This is not entirely true.

Science has theories. Theories might be based on facts, but in a theory the facts are presented in a new way that is not known to be factual. If a theory is believed as truth without finding out that it is truth, you have a religion going by people having faith in something that is not truth necessarily.

The foundation of most religions is God. God has been proven to exist by science, and shown to exist in nature. The questions about God have to do with knowing about Him, more than that He exists. This is where God-religions come from.

Religions that don't accept the existence of God, are very strong religions. Why? They have to fight the proofs and evidences in science and nature. They are strong because their believers have to have very blind faith to avoid looking at nature and science.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on April 17, 2016, 06:25:56 AM

science is not religion. science is a field of science that studies the science on this earth. while religion is a spiritual bond between man and his god. it was clearly different.

Both were clearly described, Truly science is not a religion because its based upon the innovation and technology of the proofs. Religion is just based upon the bonding which happens without any reason.

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As long as science keeps on making up these fantastic theories, and then believing them to be true without proof, and barely any evidence, they are pushing science into the realm of strong religion.

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Well this is a refreshing change. At least your admitting that a strong religion like Christianity is based upon no proof and barely any evidence.

Maybe we're managing to pry those tightly shut eyes of yours open at long last. Just a tad mind, but least it's a start. Well done!

Well, thank you, again, for showing us that you can't read, and that you don't really know very much. But, that is like most of us, isn't it? At least until we learn. Why don't you learn?

The fact that the universe operates through cause and effect, and the fact that it is very complex, and the fact that we find nothing other than universal entropy... these three universal facts prove that God exists. If God didn't exist, one or more of these three facts would have to be non-existent, as well.

Oh, so one minute your saying science has fantastic theories without proof and barely any evidence, now in your next post your saying science proves God as fact. Make up your mind. Cheesy

That's the problem, when someone starts believing a crazy mixed up book, they themselves start getting crazy and mixed up in the head too. And the deeper they're into this book, the more mixed up they get. You're very mixed up.

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2016, 03:23:01 PM

But I do want to thank you. The more you prompt me to say this, the more opportunity people have to see and to start to understand.

My question is, do you understand?
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Oh, yes I understand exactly what your trying to do. Don't worry about that, I can read you like a book.

Well, spell it out simply, the thing that you understand, and what you read in me the "book," so that everyone can understand.

And, I'll spell out for you, again, what I am saying.

Science has facts and it has theories. The facts prove God. The theories make science a foolish religion when people believe them as truth.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2016, 03:23:01 PM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on April 17, 2016, 01:41:36 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2016, 10:39:01 AM

As long as science keeps on making up these fantastic theories, and then believing them to be true without proof, and barely any evidence, they are pushing science into the realm of strong religion.

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Well this is a refreshing change. At least your admitting that a strong religion like Christianity is based upon no proof and barely any evidence.

Maybe we're managing to pry those tightly shut eyes of yours open at long last. Just a tad mind, but least it's a start. Well done!

Well, thank you, again, for showing us that you can't read, and that you don't really know very much. But, that is like most of us, isn't it? At least until we learn. Why don't you learn?

The fact that the universe operates through cause and effect, and the fact that it is very complex, and the fact that we find nothing other than universal entropy... these three universal facts prove that God exists. If God didn't exist, one or more of these three facts would have to be non-existent, as well.

Oh, so one minute your saying science has fantastic theories without proof and barely any evidence, now in your next post your saying science proves God as fact. Make up your mind. Cheesy

That's the problem, when someone starts believing a crazy mixed up book, they themselves start getting crazy and mixed up in the head too. And the deeper they're into this book, the more mixed up they get. You're very mixed up.

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2016, 03:23:01 PM

But I do want to thank you. The more you prompt me to say this, the more opportunity people have to see and to start to understand.

My question is, do you understand?
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Oh, yes I understand exactly what your trying to do. Don't worry about that, I can read you like a book.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on April 17, 2016, 01:41:36 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2016, 10:39:01 AM

As long as science keeps on making up these fantastic theories, and then believing them to be true without proof, and barely any evidence, they are pushing science into the realm of strong religion.

Cool

Well this is a refreshing change. At least your admitting that a strong religion like Christianity is based upon no proof and barely any evidence.

Maybe we're managing to pry those tightly shut eyes of yours open at long last. Just a tad mind, but least it's a start. Well done!

Well, thank you, again, for showing us that you can't read, and that you don't really know very much. But, that is like most of us, isn't it? At least until we learn. Why don't you learn?

The fact that the universe operates through cause and effect, and the fact that it is very complex, and the fact that we find nothing other than universal entropy... these three universal facts prove that God exists. If God didn't exist, one or more of these three facts would have to be non-existent, as well.

But I do want to thank you. The more you prompt me to say this, the more opportunity people have to see and to start to understand.

My question is, do you understand? Or are you simply trying to hide yourself from God by speaking against Him? You can't hide from God. This Guy Who used cause and effect to set the whole universe in place, knows everything about you, and essentially holds your life in His hands.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2016, 10:39:01 AM

As long as science keeps on making up these fantastic theories, and then believing them to be true without proof, and barely any evidence, they are pushing science into the realm of strong religion.

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Well this is a refreshing change. At least your admitting that a strong religion like Christianity is based upon no proof and barely any evidence.

Maybe we're managing to pry those tightly shut eyes of yours open at long last. Just a tad mind, but least it's a start. Well done!

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on April 17, 2016, 06:25:56 AM

science is not religion. science is a field of science that studies the science on this earth. while religion is a spiritual bond between man and his god. it was clearly different.

As long as science keeps on making up these fantastic theories, and then believing them to be true without proof, and barely any evidence, they are pushing science into the realm of strong religion.

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science is not religion. science is a field of science that studies the science on this earth. while religion is a spiritual bond between man and his god. it was clearly different.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2016, 10:56:35 AM

Besides, Big Bang has a tad of corny math to it, but neglects the possibilities of thousands of other math calc that could negate it. Big Bang is one of the most supernatural things that science has come up with yet.

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This seems like you've taken someone else's opinion and made it your own. If not, can you explain this statement for us (who aren't familiar with Big Bang physics)?

Perhaps when you were a child you went to school. If not as a child, then somewhere along the line you learned how to speak, how to write, how to do the many things that you learned how to do. When you learned the basics of atheism, you might have said something like, "That's the way I believe. I never heard anyone say it like that before. It is true. From now on I will follow it until someone shows me something better."

Nobody, not even you, have all the concepts that you will ever have, already built clearly into yourself. Somewhere along the line you will find new things out, or you will find some of the things you think said clearly enough that they form a better basis for your thinking.

The fact that Big Bang is just one of possibly thousands or more of ways that the universe might have come into being, is something that has always been known, though seldom said. The fact that Big Bang theory doesn't dispel multitudes of other possibilities, has always been truth. The fact that it hasn't been said often doesn't make it untruth.

The fact of God-creation is way more logical than Big Bang creation. One major reason is that Big Bang doesn't have any method for suggesting the fact of the intelligence that now exists, but God-creation does.

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OK, so what exactly were you referring to when you wrote:

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2016, 10:56:35 AM

Big Bang has a tad of corny math to it, but neglects the possibilities of thousands of other math calc that could negate it.

Which branch of maths in particular is "corny" and which other branches of math "negate" the "corny" math?

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Quote from: organofcorti on April 16, 2016, 08:52:58 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2016, 10:56:35 AM

Besides, Big Bang has a tad of corny math to it, but neglects the possibilities of thousands of other math calc that could negate it. Big Bang is one of the most supernatural things that science has come up with yet.

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This seems like you've taken someone else's opinion and made it your own. If not, can you explain this statement for us (who aren't familiar with Big Bang physics)?

Perhaps when you were a child you went to school. If not as a child, then somewhere along the line you learned how to speak, how to write, how to do the many things that you learned how to do. When you learned the basics of atheism, you might have said something like, "That's the way I believe. I never heard anyone say it like that before. It is true. From now on I will follow it until someone shows me something better."

Nobody, not even you, have all the concepts that you will ever have, already built clearly into yourself. Somewhere along the line you will find new things out, or you will find some of the things you think said clearly enough that they form a better basis for your thinking.

The fact that Big Bang is just one of possibly thousands or more of ways that the universe might have come into being, is something that has always been known, though seldom said. The fact that Big Bang theory doesn't dispel multitudes of other possibilities, has always been truth. The fact that it hasn't been said often doesn't make it untruth.

The fact of God-creation is way more logical than Big Bang creation. One major reason is that Big Bang doesn't have any method for suggesting the fact of the intelligence that now exists, but God-creation does.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2016, 10:56:35 AM

Besides, Big Bang has a tad of corny math to it, but neglects the possibilities of thousands of other math calc that could negate it. Big Bang is one of the most supernatural things that science has come up with yet.

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This seems like you've taken someone else's opinion and made it your own. If not, can you explain this statement for us (who aren't familiar with Big Bang physics)?

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