Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? - page 44.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

It is not only stealing, it is also bad for the all bitcoin community.

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depends on your local law. where i live i would assume that stealing btc is illegal.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Morally it is not good to steal bitcoin. Under some country, it is under cyberlaw. And the penalty is one degree higher. So stealing bitcoin is punishable by law in some country and consider as illegal. Though the chance of you generating previously owned BTC is really next to impossible.

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stealing anything is illegal even if it is a ice cream from a baby and bitcoin is a serious matter. So definitely stealing bitcoin is illegal.

But why do you want to steal other's bitcoin when you can earn bitcoin very easily? Try signature and avatar campaigns and you will earn around 7-8 USD every week. Which you can use in trading and multiply your holdings like anything. Try legal and ethical ways bro, don't steal.

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Steal things always is illegal, but in your situation there would not be steal of anything.

In BTC no one really owns BTC, they own a code that allow you to move a certain amount of Bitcoins. You can steal the private key, but not the BTC itself.

If you somehow generated a private key that has BTC inside without stealing it or doing other illegal stuff, then you are not stealing, and you have the right to move the BTC if you wish.

If you should or should not do it, it is up to you

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Quote from: Cresciuanto on July 17, 2016, 09:41:46 AM

stealing of every think s illegal. there is not doubt about this. but if you dont know that where does these bitcoin comes from. then its mean that you have not stole it. then how can you say that it is stealing. you steal it by using some illegal spirit then it is stealing.

Stealing, whenever, whatever is illegal. Every country has a law against it, and since the internet seems to be without boundaries, there are boundaries.
And stealing is crossing that boundary.

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stealing of every think s illegal. there is not doubt about this. but if you dont know that where does these bitcoin comes from. then its mean that you have not stole it. then how can you say that it is stealing. you steal it by using some illegal spirit then it is stealing.

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Yes it is illegal as to steal Bitcoin you have to hack someone's wallet and we know that hacking is illegal world wide....

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Quote from: romero121 on July 17, 2016, 07:55:18 AM

Grabbing someone's property or things without their knowledge is very wrong. Possibly these days with the increased and improved security feature stealing of bitcoin is truly hard.

of course it is wrong, it does not matter if bitcoins are considered to be money right now or not i think it will still be illegal all the time because it is not a right thing to steal

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Hi Alanay. Stealing is a crime but when we say stealing bitcoin, it is a different scenario. We can't actually say that the situation you have cited is stealing because you have no control of it since it is already there when you made that wallet and you have no idea where it came from or to who it really belongs. But if someone contacted you saying that it is their bitcoin, you have the obligation to return it.

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Grabbing someone's property or things without their knowledge is very wrong. Possibly these days with the increased and improved security feature stealing of bitcoin is truly hard.

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I think everyone needs to calm down on this. First off its impossible for this to happen but if you created a wallet and bam theres a bitcoin in it? Im not
sure how thats stealing. Thats like saying walking down the street you find a $20 bill on the ground. You pick it up and look around and no one is around or
takes it, should you just leave it flying around? Maybe leave it there for a bit and if no one claims it then its just lost and that old saying, Possession is 9/10s
of the law.

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Thank you for all your replies, I guess there is no simple answer or solution. I am gonna just say if it ever happens that person probably deserves to take the Bitcoin, could you imagine winning the lottery 1,000,000 times and never being given any prize for it? I guess that's kind of how it would feel like. I would say also if this is ever a concern in the future (I know it probably won't ever be) then diversifying would be a good idea.

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Any act of stealing is illegal. That is an international rule. Anyone who caught stealing something will be jailed or be punished. But your problem is not as much as in real life. That's a coincidence. But if you have conscience, then don't do it. What if he/she need that money than you do ? If you have a good heart, then leave it. Don't steal something you do not own. Because that's an international rule.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and ~~by some miracle it has~~ Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Of course, what country in this earth who doesn't regard that stealing is wrong? And I don't even know if that method is even possible?

I think he has to say is do not impersonate on theft. Because he said that while getting a new address he has a bitcoin. Nah mean he has no intent to steal or him gets the luck of making a new address

Maybe you can underline about the senteces,the bold sentences are means about takings anythings it's not their right, but the strike through sentences can make the bold sentences is become pointless.

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Quote from: Jeremycoin on July 17, 2016, 05:42:18 AM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Of course, what country in this earth who doesn't regard that stealing is wrong? And I don't even know if that method is even possible?

I think he has to say is do not impersonate on theft. Because he said that while getting a new address he has a bitcoin. Nah mean he has no intent to steal or he gets the luck of making a new address

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Of course, what country in this earth who doesn't regard that stealing is wrong? And I don't even know if that method is even possible?

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Quote from: X-ray on July 17, 2016, 04:52:19 AM

Quote from: ebookscreator on July 17, 2016, 04:50:04 AM

Its illegal stealing bitcoin is not prohibited and if you trace by someone you will be in the jail and arrest by NBI..
Better to dont expect and learn stealing better to look for other way to have bitcoins.

huh that's not going to happen, if the problem were the same as OP,it's clearly the sender's mistake,and there's no reason to get the one who receive bitcoin jailed,no strong evidence because the receiver don't know what's going on and don't even touching the bitcoin before was sent

I think he is relaying on that title not in op said that he generate a address with bitcoins already.
But honestly its not stealling bitcoin for someone else because he just receive it or generated withnew address that you didnt know that has already a bitcoin inside..

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In your case it sounds like you found it, and who found it can keep it! But that doesn't mean that you can't try to find the real owner and return coins. Stealing is when you take something from someone, no matter what, and that is not nice thing to do.
Finding things like money or something that worth is just luck. But like someone said, chances to find wallet with money inside is like you are waiting money to fall from the sky. Almost impossible!

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

First off it is not stealing because you didn't steal them but you found them by chance.So it is not illegal but it is ethically Wrong and if you are religious it amounts to sin to use someone else's coins.If such rare thing happens,You should delete the address because finding thd real owner is almost impossible

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