They said 1st batch will actually start at the end of this month.
Last thing I read was it was sold out.
Their site claims to be sold out - but that could be that they have it coded to say that when they have 0 inventory on hand.
Topic: Is Syan a real deal? - page 9. (Read 7628 times)
Last thing I read was it was sold out.
Their site claims to be sold out - but that could be that they have it coded to say that when they have 0 inventory on hand.
They said 1st batch will actually start at the end of this month.
Last thing I read was it was sold out.
Thank you for your interest in the Vega Home Bitcoin Digital Currency Miner.
We expect to opening batch 1 for orders towards the end of this month or the start of November for shipping in January 2018. I have gone ahead and added you to the advanced notification list.
In the meantime, if you have any further questions, please let me know.
I messaged them. I will let you know if they reply.
I asked for a review unit at no cost up front. I would review it and return it if I don't like it . If I like it I would buy it at a fair price.
I told them I can provide reviews of other gear that was sent to me. I told them I have help sales of companies after my reviews.
I don't send money to new companies without at least one or two people that I know that have received gear.
I simply say if they don't send one to me or some else well trusted here for reviews that shows a lack of concern for miners.
So lets see if they send some gear to some of us.
They said 1st batch will actually start at the end of this month.
Last thing I read was it was sold out.
Thank you for your interest in the Vega Home Bitcoin Digital Currency Miner.
We expect to opening batch 1 for orders towards the end of this month or the start of November for shipping in January 2018. I have gone ahead and added you to the advanced notification list.
In the meantime, if you have any further questions, please let me know.
The miner case looks a lot like Cooler Master HAF series pc case http://www.conrad.com/medias/global/ce/6000_6999/6000/6010/6018/1169075_ZB_00_FB.EPS_1000.jpg
And I wonder how they only have so little amount of pictures.
No interior pics, hash board pics.
I would be really careful with this, but can't say for sure if it is a scam.
And I wonder how they only have so little amount of pictures.
No interior pics, hash board pics.
I would be really careful with this, but can't say for sure if it is a scam.
They said 1st batch will actually start at the end of this month.
Last thing I read was it was sold out.
They said 1st batch will actually start at the end of this month.
The S9 isn't best in class - Bitfury was showing similar efficiency to what Syan is claiming on their demo
Bitmain can also hit that efficiency with their chips and have shown it. I dont get how you can argue the S9 is not best in class right now by the numbers. Show me a bitfury miner I can purchase right now? Show me ANYONE thats ever seen a Syan? BW couldnt match efficiency in a retail product, neither could Canaan, neither could Bitfury, neither could Ebang....the list goes on.
Bitmain has NOT shown that level of efficiency, though they've shown somewhat CLOSE to it on the first few VERY UNRELIABLE batches of the S9 - and stopped trying on the later batches as the miners could NOT operate reliably when pushed that close to their bottom voltage spec for max efficiency.
BitFury chips are used in the Hotmine X5/X6 line of miners, among others I don't remember offhand.
BW doesn't SELL retail, you're arguing strawmen there - and we don't KNOW what the efficiency on their current miners ended up at, their CHIP level claims however did in fact beat Bitmain and were in Bitfury territory for their "3'd gen" 14/16nm chip design claims.
Canaan beats Bitmain HANDS DOWN on reliability, at a cost in efficiency.
I never mentioned EBang, YOU are the only one bringing them up.
Another strawman argument since I never made ANY claim about them at all.
It's nowhere near as cut and dried "Bitmain is the best" as you claim.
I have a working s-9 from batch 1 or 2 down clocked to 500 vs 600 as it has the old custom software. and it does .0985 watts with a plat psu.
now if all my s-9s worked like this
The S9 isn't best in class - Bitfury was showing similar efficiency to what Syan is claiming on their demo
Bitmain can also hit that efficiency with their chips and have shown it. I dont get how you can argue the S9 is not best in class right now by the numbers. Show me a bitfury miner I can purchase right now? Show me ANYONE thats ever seen a Syan? BW couldnt match efficiency in a retail product, neither could Canaan, neither could Bitfury, neither could Ebang....the list goes on.
Bitmain has NOT shown that level of efficiency, though they've shown somewhat CLOSE to it on the first few VERY UNRELIABLE batches of the S9 - and stopped trying on the later batches as the miners could NOT operate reliably when pushed that close to their bottom voltage spec for max efficiency.
BitFury chips are used in the Hotmine X5/X6 line of miners, among others I don't remember offhand.
BW doesn't SELL retail, you're arguing strawmen there - and we don't KNOW what the efficiency on their current miners ended up at, their CHIP level claims however did in fact beat Bitmain and were in Bitfury territory for their "3'd gen" 14/16nm chip design claims.
Canaan beats Bitmain HANDS DOWN on reliability, at a cost in efficiency.
I never mentioned EBang, YOU are the only one bringing them up.
Another strawman argument since I never made ANY claim about them at all.
It's nowhere near as cut and dried "Bitmain is the best" as you claim.
Keeping an eye on this. If they allow escrow, it means there is some credibility at least, though only first hand results will tell the story. I do appreciate the watercooling though I must say. For these prices, this can definitely bring home miners back into the game 
The S9 isn't best in class - Bitfury was showing similar efficiency to what Syan is claiming on their demo
Bitmain can also hit that efficiency with their chips and have shown it. I dont get how you can argue the S9 is not best in class right now by the numbers. Show me a bitfury miner I can purchase right now? Show me ANYONE thats ever seen a Syan? BW couldnt match efficiency in a retail product, neither could Canaan, neither could Bitfury, neither could Ebang....the list goes on.
What about durability? ever thought about that?
The S9 isn't best in class - Bitfury was showing similar efficiency to what Syan is claiming on their demo
Bitmain can also hit that efficiency with their chips and have shown it. I dont get how you can argue the S9 is not best in class right now by the numbers. Show me a bitfury miner I can purchase right now? Show me ANYONE thats ever seen a Syan? BW couldnt match efficiency in a retail product, neither could Canaan, neither could Bitfury, neither could Ebang....the list goes on.
Also if the chip is 25% more efficient than the current best in class S9 you would think they would be plastering advertisements whereever they could. They could completely take over the bitcoin hardware game if these machiens were legit.
The S9 isn't best in class - Bitfury was showing similar efficiency to what Syan is claiming on their demo - and there have been "upgrades" to both GF and TSMC processes since then that make the efficiency claims of the Syan unit reasonable.
That doesn't mean they are NOT a scam - it just means that *IF* they are a scam, they're a well thought out scam.
They're also not the first company to come "out of nowhere" with a new miner - a few of which have proven to be legit....
Don't even bother with this product- the photo they provide is a neat photoshop of a coolermaster mini-itx case and this texture for the front grill: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/82/87/f98287fbb86f9471007191c84cae8d1a.jpg
Yea thats exactly what i found and posted about earlier in this thread.
Don't even bother with this product- the photo they provide is a neat photoshop of a coolermaster mini-itx case and this texture for the front grill: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/82/87/f98287fbb86f9471007191c84cae8d1a.jpg
*** Syan miner is a SCAM! If someone buys their miners without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***
That ^^ and once again to repeat the 'How to prove they are a REAL miner maker' Mantra:
a. Do the Tradeshow route to get (legit) press coverage to show the general public you at least built something.
b. Start an official Syan thread here for announcements and LEGIT press coverage links.
c. Solicit very-well known reputable users here to do a review of it with the usual conditions: Send it to them gratis, they do a yay/nay/meh review of it with pictures and screenshots. After a week or 2 of testing the reviewer will then either return it or if they really like it - pay for the one they were sent.
Until the above happens - they shall forever remain Vaporware and probable scam.
I've been emailing the customer support to ask about the next batch and the payment options. here is their response:
Thank you for writing.
PSU, board and chips all come with a 5 year warrenty for defects.
I can fully appreciate your concern. I have also been mining for a number of years and I'm fully aware that many companies have failed to deliver. It is always a concern with a new company.
Our preferred payment option is obviously BTC since we aim to support the network wherever we can. However, we also will be accepting fiat payments via our escrow provider.
If you have any doubts at all, you could always wait and place an order for batch 2.
Please let me know if you have anymore questions.
Best regards,
Clive.
Only thing left to do.......visit their headquarters and see what the hell is going onThank you for writing.
PSU, board and chips all come with a 5 year warrenty for defects.
I can fully appreciate your concern. I have also been mining for a number of years and I'm fully aware that many companies have failed to deliver. It is always a concern with a new company.
Our preferred payment option is obviously BTC since we aim to support the network wherever we can. However, we also will be accepting fiat payments via our escrow provider.
If you have any doubts at all, you could always wait and place an order for batch 2.
Please let me know if you have anymore questions.
Best regards,
Clive.
a. Do the Tradeshow route to get (legit) press coverage to show the general public you at least built something.
b. Start an official Syan thread here for announcements and LEGIT press coverage links.
c. Solicit very-well known reputable users here to do a review of it with the usual conditions: Send it to them gratis, they do a yay/nay/meh review of it with pictures and screenshots. After a week or 2 of testing the reviewer will then either return it or if they really like it - pay for the one they were sent.
Until the above happens - they shall forever remain Vaporware and probable scam.
I've been emailing the customer support to ask about the next batch and the payment options. here is their response:
Thank you for writing.
PSU, board and chips all come with a 5 year warrenty for defects.
I can fully appreciate your concern. I have also been mining for a number of years and I'm fully aware that many companies have failed to deliver. It is always a concern with a new company.
Our preferred payment option is obviously BTC since we aim to support the network wherever we can. However, we also will be accepting fiat payments via our escrow provider.
If you have any doubts at all, you could always wait and place an order for batch 2.
Please let me know if you have anymore questions.
Best regards,
Clive.
Thank you for writing.
PSU, board and chips all come with a 5 year warrenty for defects.
I can fully appreciate your concern. I have also been mining for a number of years and I'm fully aware that many companies have failed to deliver. It is always a concern with a new company.
Our preferred payment option is obviously BTC since we aim to support the network wherever we can. However, we also will be accepting fiat payments via our escrow provider.
If you have any doubts at all, you could always wait and place an order for batch 2.
Please let me know if you have anymore questions.
Best regards,
Clive.
Only thing left to do.......visit their headquarters and see what the hell is going on
I've been emailing the customer support to ask about the next batch and the payment options. here is their response:
Thank you for writing.
PSU, board and chips all come with a 5 year warrenty for defects.
I can fully appreciate your concern. I have also been mining for a number of years and I'm fully aware that many companies have failed to deliver. It is always a concern with a new company.
Our preferred payment option is obviously BTC since we aim to support the network wherever we can. However, we also will be accepting fiat payments via our escrow provider.
If you have any doubts at all, you could always wait and place an order for batch 2.
Please let me know if you have anymore questions.
Best regards,
Clive.
Thank you for writing.
PSU, board and chips all come with a 5 year warrenty for defects.
I can fully appreciate your concern. I have also been mining for a number of years and I'm fully aware that many companies have failed to deliver. It is always a concern with a new company.
Our preferred payment option is obviously BTC since we aim to support the network wherever we can. However, we also will be accepting fiat payments via our escrow provider.
If you have any doubts at all, you could always wait and place an order for batch 2.
Please let me know if you have anymore questions.
Best regards,
Clive.
My guess is bitmain could send an s-9 shipped to me in NJ ,USA for 600 usd and turn a profit. SMALL PROFIT but a profit.
Maybe. Gotta remember it's got almost 200 16nm ASICs in there, and those aren't exactly cheap to make.
How likely that company with millions investment will use Google Translate to save few hundred bucks on website translation to Russian language?
I mean Baikal also has horrible translations (well they used to) and they are chinese/russian. It is a little suspicious though, but what’s more suspicious is just the lack of information about anything on their site. I smell vaporware. Only specs and not much else. Also if the chip is 25% more efficient than the current best in class S9 you would think they would be plastering advertisements whereever they could. They could completely take over the bitcoin hardware game if these machiens were legit.
well they would have a 25% edge only if the power was cheap under 5 cents
and of course if it is cheap to build machine.
My guess is bitmain could send an s-9 shipped to me in NJ ,USA for 600 usd and turn a profit. SMALL PROFIT but a profit.
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