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Topic: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us? - page 12. (Read 1747 times)

legendary
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Someone here can explain to me - why do people think that the government SHOULD provide a comfortable life, and the citizens of the country themselves should only sit, wait, and until the state has solved the problem FOR THEM, suffer? Smiley
It actually sounds very funny. At least because the majority does not understand how the state and the state economy work. And they do not understand where the eradication of poverty, for example, can come from. For starters, one simple word - TAXES! If everyone pays them, as in Switzerland, for example, then they live like in Switzerland. Do you know that the population there opposed the increase in the introduction of an unconditional basic income? Which would provide everyone with an even higher standard of living? They probably didn't know. Do you know why? Think!
And remember an even simpler thing - the state - does not print money to distribute! It collects taxes and in proportion to taxes, according to priorities, divides them into pensions, and provides a minimum living standard, and medicine, and much more. Those. forms an acceptable standard of living! But at the expense of taxes and adequate distribution. And if the government that the population chooses itself is corrupt, and the population does not pay taxes, then it is stupid to dream of "solving the problem of poverty"!
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it becomes funny when people always debate about how the government solves poverty in a country.
But we don't realize that in the world there must always be a balance, between rich and poor, between night and day, and good and evil and so on.
Do we not understand what if we live without balance, we have created this world with full balance. Let's imagine if we all became rich people, then who would be called rich, who would do what people do, such as farming, gardening and so on.
So I think it's destiny in this world between rich and poor.
legendary
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Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.
That is the reality. Most of the government are not pro-people even when they are expected to be. Maybe because that will not satisfy their personal desires so instead of working to alleviate poverty, they are making the people poorer and poorer. Reality sucks. The reason why people should never completely rely on the government to solve the problem with poverty. People should be more responsible to work on their own, so they can raise their own family and give them the necessities in life.
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Poverty is already on there before the war happened. It just make things worse. I think if the individual have a chance to make his financial better maybe it can end poverty. Plus the goverment is support their people by open jobs and make some regulations that benefit people.

Jobs and education really are the keys. I am just glad right now here in our country that there are a lot of projects here about roads to improve our economy as well as generate jobs for people, which is very helpful, and also with education, it is free tuition here, which means it can ease the burden on the parents. It doesn't mean that it will end poverty, but some of those families could improve their lives.
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When self-interest is affected, some people always find a way to blame the happenings around it, and here I don't completely agree with the OP on seeing that as the cause of their poverty. a country. Where the government can play an important role in poverty reduction and hunger eradication by implementing social and economic support policies and programs for low income people and impoverished areas. And if you only look in one direction of the problem, it is not fair to all that the people and the leaders are trying to overcome the common predicament.
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Poverty is already on there before the war happened. It just make things worse. I think if the individual have a chance to make his financial better maybe it can end poverty. Plus the goverment is support their people by open jobs and make some regulations that benefit people.
legendary
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Poor people will continue to exist on earth so long as life exists. Those who think it can be ended don't sincerely understand the dynamics. It's not going to change. From centuries ago, poor people existed and I don't think it's going to be any different now. Everyone can't be rich even if government provides for all what is required to become rich. Poverty shouldn't be seen as something abominable. It should be recognized as a major part of life.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
It's very obvious and understandable that any country having a crisis always experience hardship, because they will be blockage of boarder so importation and exportation of goods and services will not moving frequently in the country, so therefore i believe that will contribute almost thirty five percent (35%) of increment of items in the country and it will look like salary's is too low for human to survive.
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Depends on the government. If corruption is a very big deal, like how Mona Sahlin was prosecuted for buying a single toblerone bar with her government credit card, then yeah then that type of government can figure out all the issues, including poverty to health to education and everything else, no problem will happen in that nation. Why? Because the citizens and the government branches have the culture and the power to do that, and they know that's the right thing to do. But unfortunately in most parts of the world, we have people stealing billions from the taxes and nobody does anything about it, and citizens still vote for those people because "the other guy is evil". So you can steal 10 billion dollars from taxes of those people and same people you stole from will elect you again if you scare them enough about the other candidate. That nation won't be ending poverty, impossible.
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We can't blame the current war, because we can see the condition of the country before the war, didn't it experience difficulties?
actually the poverty of one country was seen before the war with the fluctuations in the prices of food, oil and natural gas, before but we didn't realize it early on because we still had money and when our funds were low we just realized it and always blamed the government,
actually how much money do we have if to live will be enough,
hero member
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
I know the government has its responsibility to end poverty, but I don’t think they will eventually put an end to it if also the people are not doing their part. Both should help each other so that poverty if not totally gone, at least it’s reduced or controlled. But take note that we should not rely completely from the government, we should also learn to work on our own and find a stable source of income so that we can provide for our family, and not just being dependent on what the government can give to us.
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Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.
Correct. we have to trust ourselves more to change our life to a better financial situation.
and when talking about the role of the government which is currently disappointing its people a lot, I think that is also happening in my country. But I see that the central government has done its best. but it's the local level government down that sometimes can't satisfy the people. often even an aid from the central government does not reach its true purpose for the poor. and even more assistance is received by people who have a fairly stable economic condition and are even rich.

but of course we can't blame the entire government because I believe there are still people who are honest in the government. but unfortunately I personally also consider that the majority of them cannot be trusted at all.

then we cannot entrust the change in our life to the government. we do have to fight for ourselves. and we must get used to not expecting any help from other people or even the government.
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The causes of poverty are not solely caused by external factors such as war or global economic conditions, but are also the result of systemic problems such as inequality, corruption and inadequate governance.
I think what you say is quite right, because the cause of poverty does occur through a number of things as you mentioned and I think there is one more thing that can cause poverty to easily increase. This is a lack of jobs for young people with a certain level of education who have already graduated from college. They often find it difficult to find jobs that can generate money, so most of them also fall into poverty very easily.

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Regarding the problem of poverty, in my opinion, this is a complex problem, and cannot be solved by the government alone or by individuals alone. This requires a collective effort and a multi-faceted approach involving government policies, private sector initiatives and individual action.
This is indeed a very complex matter, so to eradicate it requires special action from several parties which do not only involve the government, because community parties and the private sector who have the ability to fix this also need to move to reduce the poverty rate so that in the future there were no more difficulties among the common people. So clearly this is not only a special task of the government alone.
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Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.
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People are demonstrating because they can't buy basic necessities, which have risen while their wages haven't gone up. At the same time, basic needs cannot be provided or distributed properly, so in some areas, there are no supplies at all. So it's normal for people to protest asking for help from the government but unfortunately, the government doesn't seem to hear them or seems slow in sending the supplies.

But the government cannot completely eliminate poverty because it depends on how each person wants to try to be able to get a better life. It may not seem easy as he has to put all his effort into it but it's worth it if he wants to overcome his poverty.
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Poverty can not be solve only by either of the two.  It can only be stopped if the two parties work together. We as individuals has a major role to play to stop poverty in our society and same as the government.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
In My Opinions tue increase in the prices of basic needs and the low salaries in your country is a major issue that has multiple factors contributing to it. And the Ukraine and Russia war may have played a role in the increase in gas and crude oil prices, it is not the only issue that has caused the rise in prices of basic needs.
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Actually, when the government gets a lot of blame when a country experiences difficulties, it is natural. They are like a coach in football. if the team he was in charge of didn't play well, then they would be the first to be blamed, and such a consequence they already understood.
The surge in goods, especially those that are staple goods, will always make it difficult for the people. This is the duty of all of us, I mean the government moves with its policies, and we as a society must be able to help in pushing these policies so that we get satisfactory results.
However, as a government, it must not be anti-criticism, and if they are anti-criticism, those who actually make their policies will be opposed by many people.
Correct. means that in this case cooperation between the government and the people themselves is needed. And naturally the government must be open and accept any criticism, suggestions or complaints from the people they deal with. because after all they must be aware that they are currently in government also because they have been chosen and given the trust of the people.

Maybe what we as ordinary people can do right now is try to start improving ourselves. be it in any case, especially in matters related to finance. work more than complain a lot.
That is the problem for most people now. I don't mean to side with the government, but from what I see now, many people are blaming the government but they are just sitting around doing nothing. For example, they lack money to meet basic needs, but they just keep quiet and keep blaming the government. It may be true that employment and the ease of finding work will be directly related to the government, but that doesn't mean we only blame one party. As I said before, we have to be sustainable in order to benefit one another. Unless we have tried our best, but government policies are not on our side.
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actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.
If this inflation is actually giving a hard time for all those employed individuals, how much more for those jobless people. I think the government should start to consider increasing the salary rate especially for minimum wage earners so they can still live a balanced life and can still afford to eat thrice a day despite of the foods prices surging. Well, for jobless people, they should also learn to work and earn a living, as controlling poverty is not a full responsibility of the government but also on the citizens themselves.

It is tough for the government in this case, if the country's economy does not improve, the increase in wages means that more money will be circulated in the economy, which easily pushes up inflation. I think they have a reason not to rush to raise everyone's salary, there are a lot of factors to consider. The poverty and unemployment of the people are partly the faults of the government when its policies cannot move the country forward. But it is not because we are poor that we blame the government, when there are difficulties, let's try harder and make more efforts to overcome difficulties. Don't just rely on the government.
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It works both ways. The government and the citizens should work hand on hand.

The paradox is that governments only exist when there are poor people. If everyone in society were equal, the main incentive for subjugation would disappear. Yes, governments may claim to be fighting poverty, but they do not go further than that.

Government may help to solve the poverty but we shouldn't totally rely on them.

There are things that will also depend on the people in order to make the action more effective. Unfortunately, not all governments are like this but there are corrupt governments who can only think about themselves but I think the people on these countries can still do something to improve their lives.

The paradox has a point. It's something not impossible for the government to do. The only that the people should not on the government in solving poverty is when there's nothing to rely on to them. And that's how things get worse because people try to solve things on their own but what about those who can't? If there's somethings that the government works on to solve poverty and not things that only benefits them, it'll be easier for the people to cooperate. People should know the plan and should see where the taxes go.
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