Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us? - page 13.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

This is a big problem in many different micro and macro areas, so I find it difficult to give an overview of the problem.
But I see a few points later, whether poverty in a country or from individuals is a common story of the people of that country. And I don't want to blame the government for not doing well when I have not really done well, yes there are limitations that make people suffer, I myself was born in a country after the war and I understand that the unity of an entire nation makes a difference. And protest is the way that I feel is not the solution to the problem, this life sometimes we have not seen people suffering billions of times more than what we just experienced.

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If poverty really depends on government i think there no poverty since many many years ago, i think there is another factor on it, and it from people it self, if they want change there will be try to be better, poverty may be less but need time for that.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on March 23, 2023, 07:24:37 PM

The paradox is that governments only exist when there are poor people. If everyone in society were equal, the main incentive for subjugation would disappear. Yes, governments may claim to be fighting poverty, but they do not go further than that.

Governments are there more than just helping the poor but they can also bring peace when there are wars. When I say war, it can also be a miss-understanding of one or two people in our locality. There are small government establishments placed on our localities to solved these mini-conflicts. Government may help to solve the poverty but we shouldn't totally rely on them.

There are things that will also depend on the people in order to make the action more effective. Unfortunately, not all governments are like this but there are corrupt governments who can only think about themselves but I think the people on these countries can still do something to improve their lives.

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Quote from: AnonBitCoiner on March 24, 2023, 01:06:29 PM

actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.

If this inflation is actually giving a hard time for all those employed individuals, how much more for those jobless people. I think the government should start to consider increasing the salary rate especially for minimum wage earners so they can still live a balanced life and can still afford to eat thrice a day despite of the foods prices surging. Well, for jobless people, they should also learn to work and earn a living, as controlling poverty is not a full responsibility of the government but also on the citizens themselves.

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When it comes to poverty alleviation, the government has a huge part to play and individuals who are also not comfortable with their impoverishment also has their part to play.
Governmental policies goes a long way in ending or minimizing the poverty ratio of a particular society because it the government policies that creates enabling environment for trade and commerce to thrive and also it some governmental policies that can as well cripple the economy thereby causing more number of people of the said society to remain in poverty
Then individually we can also end poverty by meaningfully engaging in activities that'll yield us good financial returns like engaging in business, scientific research and findings, technological innovations etc.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

They can always do that if they really try hard to. But since the government has a lot of responsibilities to fulfill, they can’t hardly provide the needs of all families. Though they can give assistance but those are only good for short term, and if these people won’t work hard and strive hard on their own, they will only be starving to death.

In short, people need to help themselves in order to alleviate their status in life.
The government can only provide to some extent, but the real work will be on the people themselves.
Should not blame the government about your status in life, because yourself alone can carve the path of your future.
You may have born as poor, but growing up, you can help yourself how to get out of poverty.
Just remember, how many stories you've heard about those rags-to-riches stories?

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

They can always do that if they really try hard to. But since the government has a lot of responsibilities to fulfill, they can’t hardly provide the needs of all families. Though they can give assistance but those are only good for short term, and if these people won’t work hard and strive hard on their own, they will only be starving to death. That’s why putting an end to poverty does not depend completely on the government alone, the citizens should also do their part so they can provide for their family and alleviate poverty.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on March 24, 2023, 02:18:23 PM

Actually, when the government gets a lot of blame when a country experiences difficulties, it is natural. They are like a coach in football. if the team he was in charge of didn't play well, then they would be the first to be blamed, and such a consequence they already understood.
The surge in goods, especially those that are staple goods, will always make it difficult for the people. This is the duty of all of us, I mean the government moves with its policies, and we as a society must be able to help in pushing these policies so that we get satisfactory results.
However, as a government, it must not be anti-criticism, and if they are anti-criticism, those who actually make their policies will be opposed by many people.

Correct. means that in this case cooperation between the government and the people themselves is needed. And naturally the government must be open and accept any criticism, suggestions or complaints from the people they deal with. because after all they must be aware that they are currently in government also because they have been chosen and given the trust of the people.

Maybe what we as ordinary people can do right now is try to start improving ourselves. be it in any case, especially in matters related to finance. work more than complain a lot.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

The causes of poverty are not solely caused by external factors such as war or global economic conditions, but are also the result of systemic problems such as inequality, corruption and inadequate governance.

Regarding the problem of poverty, in my opinion, this is a complex problem, and cannot be solved by the government alone or by individuals alone. This requires a collective effort and a multi-faceted approach involving government policies, private sector initiatives and individual action.

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Actually, when the government gets a lot of blame when a country experiences difficulties, it is natural. They are like a coach in football. if the team he was in charge of didn't play well, then they would be the first to be blamed, and such a consequence they already understood.
The surge in goods, especially those that are staple goods, will always make it difficult for the people. This is the duty of all of us, I mean the government moves with its policies, and we as a society must be able to help in pushing these policies so that we get satisfactory results.
However, as a government, it must not be anti-criticism, and if they are anti-criticism, those who actually make their policies will be opposed by many people.

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Quote from: AnonBitCoiner on March 24, 2023, 01:06:29 PM

actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.

By providing jobs and supporting organizations that helps the small individuals like for farmers or in agriculture government will be able to help if there are assigned people who will be responsible in making projects suitable for their areas. If every penny of the government will be spent in providing better projects it can make difference to their country. But if the country focuses only on making the official richer then there is no hope for small individuals problems will continue to arise and we will be alone to face the problems encountered.

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actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.

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This is not easy task for any government. Imagine running whole nation they have to look after millions of things ideally. From small rural village planning to big highway projects and from small vegetable market to big industrialisation. In that also there are hundreds of challenges at every footstep. Many times people try to avoid taxes and thus governments balance sheets are always on low side which means there is not enough money to fulfil the individuals dream of getting what they want. For that they need to work, pay taxes on time, have that healthy money circulation.

Does wat affect it? Oh yes it did affect it. Depending on the country you residing in and the wagering system this can again change.

Developed countries count the minimum wage based on ease of daily needs fulfilment. Plus they also look at hourly payment system.

On the other hand there are developing countries who can never see such minimum wage system due to population, different ways of budget, rules and much more.

So somehow it’s imbalanced throughout the globe.

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Government shouldn't be in the position to control inflation, but they've taken that responsibility upon themselves to try and handle the balancing act of currency manipulation. Depending on the country, the government has the ability to resolve most economic woes by opening up free markets, lowering tax rates and regulation to encourage entrepreneurship, and staying out of the creation of central bank policies which hamper growth.

An individual government can't control global affairs like war. Understand, however, that most of the economic problems you see are a result of government ineptitude, not the Ukrainian war. The war just made matters worse.

Quote from: DanWalker on March 23, 2023, 11:05:33 AM

Whether a country is developed or not, rich or not, depends a lot on the government because they are the ones who run the country. But if you are poor or just a small part of society can't blame the government entirely, the government can't go door to door to check and help everyone in their country.

I find the problem to be the sanctimony of the government which is they would like to go door to door and help everyone in the country. Instead of physically going door to door, they create a social welfare state at the expense of the working class.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Yes, it is a natural thing, in my opinion, for people who hold demonstrations about how difficult and how expensive basic commodities are in the necessities of life, the war between Rusai and Ukraine has indeed put a high enough emphasis on the scarcity of gas and oil so that there is a lack of supply to meet the needs of the people who are impact on rising prices.

Quote from: Marvell1 on March 23, 2023, 09:12:44 AM

It can be said that inflation is also a part of the world economy, but at this time due to the consequences of the pandemic and war, inflation has become larger and more unpredictable. Every government is different, some are still trying their best to bring stability and prosperity to their people but there are many greedy governments that only care about themselves and leave their people alone. But no matter what country you live in, don't expect too much or depend too much on others, I believe that only we can save ourselves, no one can save us.

Yes, of course, this is the impact of inflation, which basically pushes prices higher, and we can't deny that. Even so, we cannot depend on other people, still the place for public complaints is the government in their own country for the welfare and meeting the needs of their people.

But it would also be nice if we didn't just stay silent with such big problems that couldn't be solved personally, but that doesn't mean we just keep complaining about situations like that, we also have to increase our ability to be able to find opportunities to improve the economy that exists in our own families. before talking about how to reduce inflation and stabilize the supply of people's needs.
You are right, the logic that must be applied in this case is that no one can save us but ourselves.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I would not try to shift the responsibility onto the shoulders of the government.
Let me explain:
- The government is those people to whom you have entrusted the management of the country. This is your choice. YOUR trust.
- your life and your well-being are ONLY IN YOUR hands. The state cannot provide a RICH life, the State can provide the minimum necessary standard of living.
- The state will primarily take care of large companies that provide taxes, jobs, but not about you or your neighbor specifically.
- Your activity, the desire to live better, this is the only thing that will make you and those around you richer. The more you earn, the more you will spend. The more your neighbor will earn by selling you vegetables or meat. The better you make repairs and buy building materials from your manufacturer.

That is why we must strive to ensure that the middle class grows, which really starts the economy (spends money, if very primitively), and as a result of this, the standard of living of all others grows. The state does not make you rich, but it should not prevent you from being rich

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Your citizens will also not get anything if they keep blaming the government if the government is really trying to solve the problem, because the high prices of basic necessities are not caused by the government in a country alone. But this is a matter that covers a very general and large scope so that every country also needs to move to overcome this, even though some countries do not feel the high price of basic necessities at this time.

For this problem, I also don't want to directly point to the war between Ukraine and Russia. Because in the past there was also a war in the Middle East, but the prices of goods and staples for food were not as expensive as they are now, so I don't think that the high prices of gas and crude oil are now a result of the war between Ukraine and Russia. I think more that it is the cause of the scarcity of gas and crude oil at this time so that the price becomes expensive which also affects food staples.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on March 23, 2023, 09:12:44 AM

It can be said that inflation is also a part of the world economy, but at this time due to the consequences of the pandemic and war, inflation has become larger and more unpredictable. Every government is different, some are still trying their best to bring stability and prosperity to their people but there are many greedy governments that only care about themselves and leave their people alone. But no matter what country you live in, don't expect too much or depend too much on others, I believe that only we can save ourselves, no one can save us.

I don’t think the government will be responsible enough to end poverty. It won’t be, but they can create different initiatives to control and lessen poverty. However, it’s the people themselves that should be responsible to end poverty, and not the government. Because even if the government provides different opportunities for the people, if the people don’t have the right mindset to see progress in their own lives, they will always live poorly and continue to struggle in life.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 08:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

If a country's problem is definitely the one who solves it is the people in it (the people) because if only the government moves without the support of the community, surely the results will not be optimal and will not even develop.
conversely, if only the people move without government support, it will definitely not be organized and will not be controlled.

So in essence, if you want to fix the country's problems, you have to work together between the people and the government, so that they are more efficient and controlled.

the mistakes of today's society and government are less united, the result is disputes that never subside, caused because the government and society are not united in advancing their country.

and there are many things that cause disputes between the community and the government, one of which is the many officials in the government who are corrupt and unfair. This factor often becomes a dispute between the community and the government.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on March 23, 2023, 07:24:37 PM

The paradox is that governments only exist when there are poor people. If everyone in society were equal, the main incentive for subjugation would disappear. Yes, governments may claim to be fighting poverty, but they do not go further than that.

Maybe you're right. because even a corrupt government can plunge a country into even greater poverty. although it all depends on each of us to change our lives. we want to work harder and smarter or not. but the role of government is also important in efforts to prosper the people of a country. if there are no corruptors in the body of government then I think a country will develop more quickly to become a developed country and the poverty rate can be reduced every year. but everyone has their own interests. including those in government positions.

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