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Quote from: Herbert2020 on April 22, 2019, 01:41:42 AM

no, that is not the problem with IEO, ICO,... and it is not the reason why they are considered bad or even fraudulent.

the problem is that regardless of what 3 words they choose to describe themselves, in the end they are raising funds to produce a token that has no reason to exist otherwise because it has no usages. then those funds goes in their pocket and they don't do anything else apart from releasing that token!
and that is the main reason why all of them always go down in price and eventually die after a while.

Applicable to those scam ICO's. But in a legit project, I beg to disagree, The raised fund is to support the laid out project proposal written on their whitepaper, the token is simply some decorative memento that can be used as utility or security and be traded in an exchange for the speculative investors.

Many thinks that IEO is somehow shady because the system force the buyer to buy at a higher price when the token is placed on sale and they failed to bag some tokens. But it is the investors or buyers choice as if the exchange forced them to buy their IEO. Others think that some exchanges favors whales and the deal was done even before the sale begins.

If you can compete with bots, I guess you can participate in this kind of event.

You can have the bot, I guess you might have time in your time. --> Oh no. I think you are right. But the IEO was originally born for the purpose of calling for capital. But perhaps many investors want to speculate and earn fast profits.

They defied everything to benefit themselves and forget the feelings of others. But if the exchanges want to be fairer for investors, they can set a limit on the amount of tokens. I am sure that the exchanges themselves also want to make a big profit so they allow whales to buy in large quantities

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Why do new investors consider the IEO a scam / Should I invest in IEO?
The fact that IEO is a form of mobilization is very smart because it minimizes risks for investors. However, there are two big problems that are common in IEO: the number of tokens that are being held too much by some people, if the token floor will bring a good amount to them, if the token is reduced to the floor then they will quickly take a loss or sell out of the market but the big risk is to be in new investors. Therefore, for those who have lost their money in this market, they lose faith and consider it a fraud.
Everyone please rate IEO projects on the exchanges

IEO could be used by exchange or the team it self as a tool to manipulate the price of the coin in the exchange since the crowd funding takes place in an exchange. Another thing is the number of tokens each can buy, a whale can easily buy a big chunk of the supply and sell it at a higher price.

A whale can easily buy a big chunk of the supply and sell it at a higher price --> Oh. That is probably the risk for small investors.
Is there any way to make the market more fair? I myself think that the regulations restricting the buying volume of the new exchanges make the risk decrease.
Ex: The trading floor may stipulate that each individual investor must not buy more than 1BTC or 10 ETH ... -> Reduce the whale's whaling

that would be censorship and i dont think people would want that even bitcoin still gets manipulated and also i dont think the exchange would want their profits going down, more volume equals more profit for the exchange.

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Quote from: 33bitcoin on April 22, 2019, 08:50:33 AM

IEOs can be a great way to make money but you have to be really fast with your buy offers. The number one thing is to get in early and don't be afraid to sell after the first pump. I've already tripled my initial investment in the last IEO I bought.

You are so lucky to get your chance investing with IEO's, not that lucky yet t be able to participate with this such event, what is important is the exchange who cater the initial offering how credible they are and how the market reacts, if the coins was been dissolved right away chances to get quick profits is there, you need to decide quickly and be happy for any amount of profits that you will going to have.

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Quote from: Ailmand on April 22, 2019, 01:49:43 AM

Quote from: tspmhack6 on April 22, 2019, 12:33:16 AM

Why do new investors consider the IEO a scam / Should I invest in IEO?
The fact that IEO is a form of mobilization is very smart because it minimizes risks for investors. However, there are two big problems that are common in IEO: the number of tokens that are being held too much by some people, if the token floor will bring a good amount to them, if the token is reduced to the floor then they will quickly take a loss or sell out of the market but the big risk is to be in new investors. Therefore, for those who have lost their money in this market, they lose faith and consider it a fraud.
Everyone please rate IEO projects on the exchanges

IEO could be used by exchange or the team it self as a tool to manipulate the price of the coin in the exchange since the crowd funding takes place in an exchange. Another thing is the number of tokens each can buy, a whale can easily buy a big chunk of the supply and sell it at a higher price.

A whale can easily buy a big chunk of the supply and sell it at a higher price --> Oh. That is probably the risk for small investors.
Is there any way to make the market more fair? I myself think that the regulations restricting the buying volume of the new exchanges make the risk decrease.
Ex: The trading floor may stipulate that each individual investor must not buy more than 1BTC or 10 ETH ... -> Reduce the whale's whaling

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on April 22, 2019, 01:41:42 AM

no, that is not the problem with IEO, ICO,... and it is not the reason why they are considered bad or even fraudulent.

the problem is that regardless of what 3 words they choose to describe themselves, in the end they are raising funds to produce a token that has no reason to exist otherwise because it has no usages. then those funds goes in their pocket and they don't do anything else apart from releasing that token!
and that is the main reason why all of them always go down in price and eventually die after a while.

Thank you. In my opinion, the IEO is probably a bit safer than ICO for 2 main reasons
1. IEO was evaluated closer by the Team of the exchange platform
2. Be sure to trade on the floor

However if the development team of the IEO is not active, then they will be devalued and die.

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IEOs can be a great way to make money but you have to be really fast with your buy offers. The number one thing is to get in early and don't be afraid to sell after the first pump. I've already tripled my initial investment in the last IEO I bought.

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Quote from: abstractednerve on April 22, 2019, 02:23:20 AM

Quote from: Herbert2020 on April 22, 2019, 01:41:42 AM

no, that is not the problem with IEO, ICO,... and it is not the reason why they are considered bad or even fraudulent.

the problem is that regardless of what 3 words they choose to describe themselves, in the end they are raising funds to produce a token that has no reason to exist otherwise because it has no usages. then those funds goes in their pocket and they don't do anything else apart from releasing that token!
and that is the main reason why all of them always go down in price and eventually die after a while.

That's the bitter truth nowadays. People are taking ICO's name with hate, but it is not about ICO, it's all about the team and the project. Some ICO projects are still doing better, recently Haratoken was sold out by reaching the hardcap within 35 hours! Because they have a strong team and they are working every day in front of people!
IEO is not the solution here, only a real team with a productive ambition can make token's value but most of the ICO/IEO projects raise money only to fill their pocket, nothing else! Even Binance IEO is ot able to save a project/token if the team don't work perfectly!

With my opinion:
1. The launch of the Binance Launchpad started the IEO movement --> IEO expand on other exchange platform.

2. The Binance Chain Mainnet was born --> The Binance Chain Mainnet was born that would involve projects from other platforms such as Etherum or EOS that would switch to it. Even later projects will take the Binance chain as a foundation right from the idea stage

3. Strong team of Binance's are very active and should evaluate good projects to develop--> So investors will be more confident than non-IEO projects on Binance

4. Therefore, with IEO projects on Binance up to now, 100% guarantee success. And I believe that in the coming months perhaps other projects that will be Binance support will also succeed

Do you think same me?

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on April 22, 2019, 01:41:42 AM

no, that is not the problem with IEO, ICO,... and it is not the reason why they are considered bad or even fraudulent.

the problem is that regardless of what 3 words they choose to describe themselves, in the end they are raising funds to produce a token that has no reason to exist otherwise because it has no usages. then those funds goes in their pocket and they don't do anything else apart from releasing that token!
and that is the main reason why all of them always go down in price and eventually die after a while.

Applicable to those scam ICO's. But in a legit project, I beg to disagree, The raised fund is to support the laid out project proposal written on their whitepaper, the token is simply some decorative memento that can be used as utility or security and be traded in an exchange for the speculative investors.

Many thinks that IEO is somehow shady because the system force the buyer to buy at a higher price when the token is placed on sale and they failed to bag some tokens. But it is the investors or buyers choice as if the exchange forced them to buy their IEO. Others think that some exchanges favors whales and the deal was done even before the sale begins.

If you can compete with bots, I guess you can participate in this kind of event.

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Quote from: ExFrozze on April 22, 2019, 05:35:09 AM

I think IEO is a great solution for sales lately, almost all the top markets in the entire world, the greatness of the IEO sales tokens has run out for a few seconds, but there are also long selling, all depending on the market where the launchpad is sold and depends on the project being built , I think there is no fraud in the IEO, all depends on the buyer

Fraud always occurs in all economic sectors. In the IEO many investors have tried to create multiple accounts so that they can buy an IEO when each account is limited the amount that can spend on the IEO. When you own multiple tokens, you can influence and control their prices right on the exchange. I find this unfair when people with a lot of money are controlling it all.

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IEO is a better way to invest in crypto currency as participating in a scam ICO has been reduced drastically . The reputation of the exchanges are at risk with IEO so the exchanges will do their due diligence before allowing an IEO to take place in their exchanges. IEO is actually a good development since access to market is make easier for token issuers and the Investors do not have to follow the crypto coin to see the exchanges they will be listed on after the token sales .

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I think IEO is a great solution for sales lately, almost all the top markets in the entire world, the greatness of the IEO sales tokens has run out for a few seconds, but there are also long selling, all depending on the market where the launchpad is sold and depends on the project being built , I think there is no fraud in the IEO, all depends on the buyer

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I've been wanting to try to invest in those kinds of things but in general. I have seen personally and been sent an email from Bittrex, and I think it would be a great chance to invest in if you get in early. As I have seen, it has been sold out.

I don't know whether it would be really profitable but exchanges that offer it are credible and they are trusted by people, so I don't think they would scam or something.

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The IEO is a big trap to help whales make more money. Whales rely on relationships to be able to buy more tokens through the IEO. When holding a lot of tokens, they can affect the price of the token. So for small investors should find out before deciding to invest in the IEO. Don't become prey to hunters.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on April 22, 2019, 01:41:42 AM

no, that is not the problem with IEO, ICO,... and it is not the reason why they are considered bad or even fraudulent.

the problem is that regardless of what 3 words they choose to describe themselves, in the end they are raising funds to produce a token that has no reason to exist otherwise because it has no usages. then those funds goes in their pocket and they don't do anything else apart from releasing that token!
and that is the main reason why all of them always go down in price and eventually die after a while.

Guess you meant 3 letters in this case. It is true that profit is the primary motive behind any of these ICOs and IEOs, but I am still happy that investors are moving away from the controversial ICOs to something better(IEO).

Majority of the ICOs just ended up creating more unneeded controversies for Bitcoin which is why this is a welcome change.

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Quote from: Virtual miner on April 22, 2019, 02:17:43 AM

because it gives faith to investors that their money is absolutely safe as reputed exchanges are handling their money.

That is a joke, exchanges are never safe.

Looked into it but for the most it is a cash grab for exchanges since they profit the most out of it.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on April 22, 2019, 01:41:42 AM

no, that is not the problem with IEO, ICO,... and it is not the reason why they are considered bad or even fraudulent.

the problem is that regardless of what 3 words they choose to describe themselves, in the end they are raising funds to produce a token that has no reason to exist otherwise because it has no usages. then those funds goes in their pocket and they don't do anything else apart from releasing that token!
and that is the main reason why all of them always go down in price and eventually die after a while.

That's the bitter truth nowadays. People are taking ICO's name with hate, but it is not about ICO, it's all about the team and the project. Some ICO projects are still doing better, recently Haratoken was sold out by reaching the hardcap within 35 hours! Because they have a strong team and they are working every day in front of people!
IEO is not the solution here, only a real team with a productive ambition can make token's value but most of the ICO/IEO projects raise money only to fill their pocket, nothing else! Even Binance IEO is ot able to save a project/token if the team don't work perfectly!

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Quote from: tspmhack6 on April 22, 2019, 12:33:16 AM

Why do new investors consider the IEO a scam / Should I invest in IEO?
The fact that IEO is a form of mobilization is very smart because it minimizes risks for investors. However, there are two big problems that are common in IEO: the number of tokens that are being held too much by some people, if the token floor will bring a good amount to them, if the token is reduced to the floor then they will quickly take a loss or sell out of the market but the big risk is to be in new investors. Therefore, for those who have lost their money in this market, they lose faith and consider it a fraud.
Everyone please rate IEO projects on the exchanges

IEO is a really good way to raise funds. I think much much better than ICO. It has lot less risk and I don't think that it is a scam at all. Infact it is pretty nice because it gives faith to investors that their money is absolutely safe as reputed exchanges are handling their money. Alongside that it also ensures that listing of the token on any exchange is certainly confirmed so Investors will surely get atleast some value for their tokens. But yes it does carry the risk of a lot of number of token being held by one single person which makes it much less transparent.

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2019 will be "Year of IEO".
IEO is less honest than ICO on a ETH smart contract, exchanges can manipulate number of tokens and participants.

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recent IEO shows that lots of people use bot to fill their order, so i doubt you'll find any luck if you try join any high-class ieo. it's also possible that the exchange itself 'buy' the tokens and then pump & dump it later when the exchange opens. it's really risky and stressful, i personally think it's just another tools for some exclusive group to get profits from retail investors. not worth trying if you're a pleb.

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If you look carefully then you would say most of the IEO project was ICO last year. They failed to raise money through ICO, now they are trying to get funded through IEO! So, there is only one difference in IEO that people can buy token through exchange and after finishing the sale token would be listed on that exchange immediately! So, all of the IEOs are not trusted, I suggest everyone to participate in the big exchange's IEO. Do not miss Binance, Kucoin, Bittrex, Huobi, Bibox and some trusted exchange's IEO, and try to ignore all the random exchange's IEO!

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