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Maybe they're gearing up to demonstrate power and win psychological battles, but in real they could never invade Russia again. They couldn't do it fast enough, at least. At the moment when Russian drops in their battle arsenal, maybe they won't win the war but they can make sure that no one else'll due to turning the world into ruins.
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I’m pretty sure that a significant amount of politicians will like to get Russia a lot weaker but since Russia has nukes that is simply not possible.
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None of the nuclear powers can be invaded. Intervening in Ukraine is one thing and invading Russia is another. If the UK and US send their troops to Ukraine, it will not necessarily start the WW3. On the other hand, if they send their troops to invade Russia, it will definitely signal the start of WW3 and MAD. Russia will definitely use some of its 10,000 nuclear war heads and half the world will turn to radio-active waste land.

perfectly agreed. i am sure that nobody dares to start a war with Russia because russia has got a lot of nuclear weapons which sound the death knell of humanity. For that reason, none of the western countries will invade Russia for the mankind's sake.
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Provocations continue:

Expect More Provocations as Russian and US Elections Near! Russian jets intercept US spy planes in Black Sea
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/09/09/expect-more-provocations-as-russian-and-us-elections-near-russian-jets-intercept-us-spy-planes/

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US spy planes have twice tried to approach the Russian border over the Black Sea with their transponders off, the Russian Defense Ministry said, adding that SU-27 fighter jets were scrambled in response.

EXPECT MORE PROVOCATIONS, HACKS & HOAXES!

As we are approaching Russian Duma Elections on September 16, 2016 and US Presidential Elections in November 2016, the provocations of various sorts will be on the rise. They will range from examples such as above aggressive act to hysteria regarding Trump, David Hawking, Bernie Sanders and Bill Mahr being Putin/Kremlin agents as described in this article by Glenn Greenwald: What’s Behind Barack Obama’s Ongoing Accommodation of Vladimir Putin?

Note: I only recommend the opening paragraphs of the above article, which are spot on. I do not recommend the main premise and the rest of the article, especially the warped conclusions about why Obama refused to send troops to Ukraine.

Obama may want to but can’t send troops to Ukraine for much more serious reasons than the lame conclusions drawn in Greenwald’s article. Namely, by doing so:

1.  Obama would have started hot WWIII, and what a gigantic, non-removable blemish it would be for Obama’s already tarnished ‘legacy’!

2. US would lose all of its European allies, including Merkel and Hollande, in one fell swoop, should US cross that line.

3. This may signal an uprising within the thinking and sane parts of the US military – not those crazed ‘Russians are coming’ US military, whose actions we are sometimes observing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZScv4WkqbJE
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The US: A Dead Nation Walking





In his article Orlov concludes that the United States is a dead nation, still walking, but no longer a uni-power. I agree with Orlov that US weapon systems are more focused on profits than on effectiveness and that Russia has superior weapons and a superior cause based on protection rather than dominance. However, in his assessment of the possibility of nuclear war, I think that Orlov under-appreciates the commitment of Washington's Neoconservatives to US world hegemony and the recklessness of the Neoconservatives and Hillary Clinton. Washington is incensed that Russia (and China) dare to stand up to Washington, and this anger crowds out judgment.


Read more at http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/08/26/the-us-a-dead-nation-walking-paul-craig-roberts/.


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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


Bolder for better understanding.

I read the bolds, i still think the same. You said Russia don't have money and what makes you think China have? They dont need money to make weapons. I hope you get it this time.
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criptix, you go on believing what the Western press wants you to believe. In a away, Russia has nothing against you believing that it does not have the money... It just means that you'll be getting a bigger surprise later on  Roll Eyes

https://lenta.ru/news/2016/04/26/gold/
(In March 2016 alone Russian increased it gold reserve by 12 tonnes, to 1441 tonnes (as, by the way, reported by Reuters). In February 2016 Russia was be biggest buyer of gold in the World, China being the second.

Shall we continue talking about the myth of "Russia has no money?"

Nemo you are russian so honest question:

Would you rather see Russia depleting there reserves to build weapons or supporting your falling/failing  economy?


@German history

Hitlers rise to power had seveal reason's and you can write more then one book about it.
But in short it was debt and luck that the former German government enacted some good economic policies which showed it fruits when Hitler came to power.

So Germanys economy was rising by a lot already but a world war of course is expensive so in the end they printed new war money especially to trade with conquered nations.

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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

Anyone can try invading Russia. But the invaders may not succeed and they will have to retreat with heavy losses. This happened to Napolen in 1812 and Hitler in 1941. Russia is a vast country and it is impossible to invade all of Russia.
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


Hitler said something similar to this and where is he now?

I don't say China is weak though. They are indeed a serious opponent which nobody would want them as an enemy. I am just saying Russia is no different. And they have money. They may don't have as many Benjamin printed papers as the others but they got resources, people, and most importantly: Nuclear.

Since you mentioned Hitler I want to add that Hitler created one of the most powerful armies without money, Germany was completely bankrupt yet Hitler created that army by the printing press and debt, as far as I know, the plan was to repay the debt with the riches of the conquered countries.
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


Bolder for better understanding.

I read the bolds, i still think the same. You said Russia don't have money and what makes you think China have? They dont need money to make weapons. I hope you get it this time.
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criptix, you go on believing what the Western press wants you to believe. In a away, Russia has nothing against you believing that it does not have the money... It just means that you'll be getting a bigger surprise later on  Roll Eyes

https://lenta.ru/news/2016/04/26/gold/
(In March 2016 alone Russian increased it gold reserve by 12 tonnes, to 1441 tonnes (as, by the way, reported by Reuters). In February 2016 Russia was be biggest buyer of gold in the World, China being the second.

Shall we continue talking about the myth of "Russia has no money?"
legendary
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


Hitler said something similar to this and where is he now?

I don't say China is weak though. They are indeed a serious opponent which nobody would want them as an enemy. I am just saying Russia is no different. And they have money. They may don't have as many Benjamin printed papers as the others but they got resources, people, and most importantly: Nuclear.

That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


Bolder for better understanding.

I read the bolds, i still think the same. You said Russia don't have money and what makes you think China have? They dont need money to make weapons. I hope you get it this time.
legendary
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


Hitler said something similar to this and where is he now?

I don't say China is weak though. They are indeed a serious opponent which nobody would want them as an enemy. I am just saying Russia is no different. And they have money. They may don't have as many Benjamin printed papers as the others but they got resources, people, and most importantly: Nuclear.

That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


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legendary
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.


Hitler said something similar to this and where is he now?

I don't say China is weak though. They are indeed a serious opponent which nobody would want them as an enemy. I am just saying Russia is no different. And they have money. They may don't have as many Benjamin printed papers as the others but they got resources, people, and most importantly: Nuclear.
legendary
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

You are talking about China.

Russia just doesn't has the money.
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.

This is correct they can go M.A.D. in our a**es and even if we could something to stop them(very doubtful) Russians could always turn to biological weapons if thing were really bad for them, after all if they have nothing to lose, they might as well destroy the human race.
legendary
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That's stupid. Nobody can invade Russia. They can produce weapons like its coming from a demon hole. You may succeed in the end but they will fck you up so bad you won't celebrate it. No need to say they got nuclear.
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It seems odd that it looks like everyone is up against Russia.  I have this implication that Russia is such a country to look at in terms of war because they are a strong country.  They also have advanced machinery and they have well trained military.  If the west would invade Russia it would be difficult for them since Russia have a great population and such a big country next to China I think.  It would be really difficult.  Hope that there will be no invading again since we all live in a times where no one wants crime.

Western view: East invaded the west
Russian view: West invaded the east

Ukraine is always the battlefield for (proxy) wars
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Interesting topic and I hope to watch that movie or documentary.  It seems odd that it looks like everyone is up against Russia.  I have this implication that Russia is such a country to look at in terms of war because they are a strong country.  They also have advanced machinery and they have well trained military.  If the west would invade Russia it would be difficult for them since Russia have a great population and such a big country next to China I think.  It would be really difficult.  Hope that there will be no invading again since we all live in a times where no one wants crime.
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The source for you article - die deutschen wirschaftsnachrichten - is extremely questionable.

You should take everything from them with a grain boeing 747 of salt.

Let's hope that is the case. I am initially going with PCR's observations, assuming he trusts his sources - the publication in die deutschen wirschaftsnachrichten being one of them.

PS: I can't, for obvious reasons, verify the Wirschaftsnachrichten article's postulation that Germany adds Russia as an enemy-state to it's military doctrine. However, I can verify the remainder of the article, which says that Russia is being vilified in the West on false, doubøe-standard, premises. I can also safely say that PCR's assessment is correct - USNATO's military excersises on the Russian border and the mushrooming USNATO military bases / rocket launching sites bring very stark analogies with the Russians of another June 22nd - 1941, when Germany invaded USSR at 4am. That date and time is commemorated in Russia as the day of mourning, it's not forgotten, the momory of that invasion is carried through the generations, and what USNATO is doing now rings a lot of alarming bells.

Add to that with the USNATO's potential nuclear launching sites being closer to the Russian border and hving a shorter flight time to Moscow, means Moscow will have less decision time if it needs to launch a counterattack, should an accident happen.
These governments do not like each other, but for what reason?  Huh  Is it business as usual or do they have personal gains?  Average Russian or French live won't get better from another war.




If you think of countries as you think of business you will see that getting your competition out of the market makes perfect sense. While this approach may seem ruthless is the only way in which I interpret this info.

This issue should not be posted without any prior validation or back-up and solid evidence. This may lead to some peoples change of views and may lead to fear. Those articles are just mere opinions of the author or even if it is true the war is impossible to happen. Those superpower countries would likely to have a peace negotiation rather than putting all their people at risk.
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The source for you article - die deutschen wirschaftsnachrichten - is extremely questionable.

You should take everything from them with a grain boeing 747 of salt.

Let's hope that is the case. I am initially going with PCR's observations, assuming he trusts his sources - the publication in die deutschen wirschaftsnachrichten being one of them.

PS: I can't, for obvious reasons, verify the Wirschaftsnachrichten article's postulation that Germany adds Russia as an enemy-state to it's military doctrine. However, I can verify the remainder of the article, which says that Russia is being vilified in the West on false, doubøe-standard, premises. I can also safely say that PCR's assessment is correct - USNATO's military excersises on the Russian border and the mushrooming USNATO military bases / rocket launching sites bring very stark analogies with the Russians of another June 22nd - 1941, when Germany invaded USSR at 4am. That date and time is commemorated in Russia as the day of mourning, it's not forgotten, the momory of that invasion is carried through the generations, and what USNATO is doing now rings a lot of alarming bells.

Add to that with the USNATO's potential nuclear launching sites being closer to the Russian border and hving a shorter flight time to Moscow, means Moscow will have less decision time if it needs to launch a counterattack, should an accident happen.
These governments do not like each other, but for what reason?  Huh  Is it business as usual or do they have personal gains?  Average Russian or French live won't get better from another war.




If you think of countries as you think of business you will see that getting your competition out of the market makes perfect sense. While this approach may seem ruthless is the only way in which I interpret this info.
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Infowar: Report by Lucas/Pomerantsev equates Russia supporters with radical Islamists
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/08/04/infowar-report-by-lucaspomerantsev-equates-russia-supporters-with-radical-islamists-in-need-of-deradicalization/

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They are feeling the beginning of an end of the failed Western globalist model and they are ready to bite to death in order to preserve their miserable existence.

This is nothing new, Ladies and Gentlemen! It’s dehumanizing someone who thinks differently in order to make it easier for the sheeple to accept an upcoming war. This is how World War II started and this is how millions were burned alive or experimented on! Let me remind you that the puppet masters behind igniting WWI and WWII were located in the same place from whence this report has originated.

The London-based ISD report recommends de-radicalizing the following categories: pro-Kremlin supporters, far left and far right, as well as Russian speakers!



Danielle Ryan ‏@DanielleRyanJ

This is frankly insane. Will there be similar initiatives for “radical, pro-White House supporters”?

Report, authored by Lucas and Pomerantsev, equates anyone supportive of Kremlin policy with radical Islamists in need of ‘deradicalization.’


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