LOL,good I discovered this thread...
Frankly, the bankrupt WEst is just resorting to bluffs- everything in the bankrupt WEst is imploding except for the manipulated stock market, they have become laughing-stock, and they will crumble even before the world stops laughing.
The WEstern comedians are desperate, as clearly shown how confused they were when the South Stream was stopped. THey can not intimidate anymore- and that is actually their only weapon left: the pretension to intimidate.They act strong & growl their threat of war but I can't see anybody is flinching. Everybody is laughing instead.
WEll, who would be intimidated? THey are bankrupt, they are obviously imploding, and what's more hilarious, they can not win wars.. and the most hilarious of all,
nobody needs them anymore.
Their gas supply now is insecure, wait for the next move: the rest of the world is starting to separate themselves from them financially & they will be left alone with their debts.
On December 15, some of the banks in Russia will have their own financial payment system. The rest will follow on May. THat will join similar system on development in China, & that will become the fulcrum of the new world. Away from the bankrupt WEstern elite-controlled one where only the WEstern comedians languishing in their gargantuan debts will remain... the Western financial oligarchs will all drown by themselves...LOL (And Americans will finally be free of their elite fascist parasites)
dude. i totally agree. though europeans might be the weaklings, americans are surely not. i also believe that the empire will crunch to its knees, but they will return more powerful and willing to act after pillaging their citizens. using them as almost slaves usa is able to create a truly powerful police/military state - they have no other choice really. the political establishment is too strong and deep into the core of power there, and there are no alternatives except few white folks with gun chests whose ancestors fought the civil war. america is also very well positioned geopolitically as they are almost completely isolated giving current elite plenty of protection. marching in washington wouldnt be possible as with berlin back in the day. stalin knew that he wasn't fighting hitler in ww2 - he was fighting those behind the british empire as it was the force that started the conflict in the first place (ww1).. as a result britain was defeated but not destroyed, and power just got transferred to usa.
in this war the stakes are higher, though usa is just being used by them few families that are always in the shadow but making all the decisions. usa empire will collapse eventually as a result of ww3 but the problem will persist because whoever comes out of the conflict as the strongest conglomerate will be targeted by those same groups and eventually become just as corrupt in the process - its always been the case through thousands of years. rinse repeat. this unseen power which is not bound by any geographical restrictions goes from host to host infecting sovereign states. in order to truly put an end to this age long war the list of elite families need to published by few of those who actually study this phenomenon. they shouldnt be destroyed, but studied, as they hold sacred knowledge known to very few on earth. they hold relics and many artefacts that prove many theories that dont fit with current understanding of things. their wealth need to be confiscated used to sponsor technological projects that are still forbidden today for benefit of humanity. if we get pass this "fighting each other" thing we can advance so fast that we will be extremely energy efficient tapping to existing unlimited power generation resources. improving climate. overpopulation will not be a problem. this overpopulation myth we hear today is the same bs used by vatican before to brainwash subjects as "born sinner". we can start colonisation of other planets in mere centuries.
all this is obviously utopia but something to aim for nevertheless. maybe its another stage in human development when we solve a problem of learning to not conflict with each other and once united becoming a more advanced species. maybe this is the test put upon us whether we are able to get rid of these non-constructive forces and become an interstellar civilization under one flag. if not - then another mass extinction and the game starts again from 0.
Russia put its own national payment system on track pretty fast after VISA and MasterCard tried to intimidate Russia. An interesting aside is that VISA and MasterCard will have to pay a premium fee for being connected to it, while Russian banks (and potentially those from BRICS) will pay a reduced transaction/connection fee. 
