Is there a difference between buying shares in the stock exchange and gambling? - page 11.

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Quote from: Pony789 on November 08, 2015, 08:38:21 AM

I have no idea about the actual definitions of "gambling" and "investment", but to me, if you are an experienced stock trader and decide to buy shares with a good reason after researches, I would classify your action as an "investment". And if you just listen to your friend's advice to buy a stock without knowing anything, it is more like a "gamble" IMO.

Some times, we say that buying stocks is like gambling. What we actually mean is that we buy the shares at random, just follow advices of others without properly personal research. That will make the "investment" a losing game.

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that is very tricky. but I would say both gambling and investing in stock exchange is a form of gamble. They both have uncertain outcomes and in both you will earn according to your stake. there is both winning and losing. the difference is that in gambling mostly the results will be determined by luck and less skills while stock exchange investing,the outcome will be determined by economic activities. In gambling the outcome is mostly instant while in stock exchange, it will need some more time. but in both, the individuals target high returns. Thank you

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I have no idea about the actual definitions of "gambling" and "investment", but to me, if you are an experienced stock trader and decide to buy shares with a good reason after researches, I would classify your action as an "investment". And if you just listen to your friend's advice to buy a stock without knowing anything, it is more like a "gamble" IMO.

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Stock exchange is not equal to profit. You can lose with shares as well if you open a position and the market goes opposite you. Also playing with shares is a zero based game the difference is that at the stock exchange there is no house edge.

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Quote from: examplens on November 07, 2015, 06:15:00 AM

Quote from: raaajlucky on November 07, 2015, 01:21:22 AM

Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

are you sure for this?
i think that no difference between this things. Both are based on predictions of the future and on assumptions

Yes both of these is based on prediction but I think you can't predict about the gambling game too. Buying stock is far more safer compare to gambling but the result for winning I will choose gambling because you can win bigger in just short of time not from stocks that need to wait long enough to get some profit

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Quote from: raaajlucky on November 08, 2015, 05:54:55 AM

Share market investments gives some profits but gambling giving only loses.

Even though share market invests giving profits is true but one need to do proper research on company before inventing their money otherwise if you invest money in some dummy companies then you may lose all your money in share market as well but it will give some time to withdraw some of your investments before it completely wash away. So in share market you should know when to exit the shares.

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Share market investments gives some profits but gambling giving only loses.

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For me its kinda the same as gambling, they can go down and up almost as fast as bitcoin.
This far my investments did pay off, but the profit was with so co called crisis alot less rewarding.
Would i have done it again ... don't think so. the only reason why it not turned into a disaster is because i had spread it enough in lucky shares which countered the losses on the bad ones.
The only ones making massive profit are the traders and big companies they can afford to loose your money (bank, pension, savings)

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Quote from: BTCevo on November 07, 2015, 02:59:29 AM

Quote from: maku on November 06, 2015, 03:32:07 PM

Quote from: Eastwind on November 03, 2015, 04:14:19 AM

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Both of them rely on skill and luck, we also can analyze condition & think about strategy about how to make profit.
So, i think there aren't any major difference between stocks trading & gambling. The only difference is stock tradings is 100% legal, while gambling isn't legal.

Some gambling such as poker relies more on skill as you bet against other players. Dice is mainly lucky based.

You can be the most knowledgeable poker player in the world and you can still lose. Skill alone is not enough of a factor in gambling.
In fact in most games it is rather insignificant. But from the other hand with proper knowledge about trading, stocks and condition of the companies you won't lose money on investing.

I can't agree on that. It is true that trading, stocks, investing is great if you know how to do it but you will lose a lot too with a wrong movement and the loss is much more bigger than gambling because you need far more balance to earn more money. It is almost the same as gambling, the risk is the same but gambling dont need so much balance to earn more sometimes

With investing you can't lost everything. With gambling it most likely happen.

I like to repeat this sentence: "An investment is simply a gamble in which you've managed to tilt the odds in your favor."

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Quote from: klf on November 07, 2015, 10:04:18 AM

Quote from: OrientA on November 07, 2015, 09:20:03 AM

Quote from: examplens on November 07, 2015, 06:15:00 AM

Quote from: raaajlucky on November 07, 2015, 01:21:22 AM

Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

are you sure for this?
i think that no difference between this things. Both are based on predictions of the future and on assumptions

Gambling is designed in such a way to make the casino owner profit. It is zero sum game, so gamblers will lose out eventually. Gambling is not an investment.

Yes gambling is there only to give profits to gambling houses but players are crazy to beat the house tactics but it is almost 100% impossible to beat the house edge to win in gambling. So I think at some extend sports betting may be better because no house edge in sports betting. I usually play dice games to pass some free time with free money site provides.

Yes I agree with you however did you ever Sport bet in a real account. It looks harder then it actually is. Some games I think are even rigged with the outcome like the Super Bowl.

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Quote from: OrientA on November 07, 2015, 09:20:03 AM

Quote from: examplens on November 07, 2015, 06:15:00 AM

Quote from: raaajlucky on November 07, 2015, 01:21:22 AM

Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

are you sure for this?
i think that no difference between this things. Both are based on predictions of the future and on assumptions

Gambling is designed in such a way to make the casino owner profit. It is zero sum game, so gamblers will lose out eventually. Gambling is not an investment.

Yes gambling is there only to give profits to gambling houses but players are crazy to beat the house tactics but it is almost 100% impossible to beat the house edge to win in gambling. So I think at some extend sports betting may be better because no house edge in sports betting. I usually play dice games to pass some free time with free money site provides.

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Quote from: examplens on November 07, 2015, 06:15:00 AM

Quote from: raaajlucky on November 07, 2015, 01:21:22 AM

Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

are you sure for this?
i think that no difference between this things. Both are based on predictions of the future and on assumptions

I think your not correct because if you do a day trading then only both will be almost same but if one invest money in shares with proper study of company future and ready to wait for few years then surely one can make money in share market. So I don't agree completely both are same but one must invest carefully after checking company and company promoters back ground.

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Quote from: examplens on November 07, 2015, 06:15:00 AM

Quote from: raaajlucky on November 07, 2015, 01:21:22 AM

Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

are you sure for this?
i think that no difference between this things. Both are based on predictions of the future and on assumptions

Gambling is designed in such a way to make the casino owner profit. It is zero sum game, so gamblers will lose out eventually. Gambling is not an investment.

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Quote from: raaajlucky on November 07, 2015, 01:21:22 AM

Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

are you sure for this?
i think that no difference between this things. Both are based on predictions of the future and on assumptions

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Quote from: maku on November 06, 2015, 03:32:07 PM

Quote from: Eastwind on November 03, 2015, 04:14:19 AM

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Both of them rely on skill and luck, we also can analyze condition & think about strategy about how to make profit.
So, i think there aren't any major difference between stocks trading & gambling. The only difference is stock tradings is 100% legal, while gambling isn't legal.

Some gambling such as poker relies more on skill as you bet against other players. Dice is mainly lucky based.

You can be the most knowledgeable poker player in the world and you can still lose. Skill alone is not enough of a factor in gambling.
In fact in most games it is rather insignificant. But from the other hand with proper knowledge about trading, stocks and condition of the companies you won't lose money on investing.

I can't agree on that. It is true that trading, stocks, investing is great if you know how to do it but you will lose a lot too with a wrong movement and the loss is much more bigger than gambling because you need far more balance to earn more money. It is almost the same as gambling, the risk is the same but gambling dont need so much balance to earn more sometimes

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Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

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doing the stock exchange in a nutshell is a higher form of gambling.

higher form meaning the result is the same if you lack to know how to setup for that trade, and other misc stuff. daytrading in general just sucks.

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Quote from: maku on November 06, 2015, 03:32:07 PM

Quote from: Eastwind on November 03, 2015, 04:14:19 AM

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Both of them rely on skill and luck, we also can analyze condition & think about strategy about how to make profit.
So, i think there aren't any major difference between stocks trading & gambling. The only difference is stock tradings is 100% legal, while gambling isn't legal.

Some gambling such as poker relies more on skill as you bet against other players. Dice is mainly lucky based.

You can be the most knowledgeable poker player in the world and you can still lose. Skill alone is not enough of a factor in gambling.
In fact in most games it is rather insignificant. But from the other hand with proper knowledge about trading, stocks and condition of the companies you won't lose money on investing.

I think as long as you plan to do a trading for short term perspective even in investing in shares are not safe to make profits but if you go for long term just buy shares and holding few year time then surely you will get a good profits. But should buy a good company shares and must need to watch out an company performances regularly to make profits on your investments

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Quote from: maku on November 06, 2015, 03:32:07 PM

Quote from: Eastwind on November 03, 2015, 04:14:19 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Both of them rely on skill and luck, we also can analyze condition & think about strategy about how to make profit.
So, i think there aren't any major difference between stocks trading & gambling. The only difference is stock tradings is 100% legal, while gambling isn't legal.

Some gambling such as poker relies more on skill as you bet against other players. Dice is mainly lucky based.

You can be the most knowledgeable poker player in the world and you can still lose. Skill alone is not enough of a factor in gambling.
In fact in most games it is rather insignificant. But from the other hand with proper knowledge about trading, stocks and condition of the companies you won't lose money on investing.

Are there proper investment sites, exchanges where you can trade real life stocks in BTC? Or, with using BTC it's only possible to invest in BTC related shares? Are BTC related shares' prices also so volatile as BTC price itself?

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Quote from: Eastwind on November 03, 2015, 04:14:19 AM

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Both of them rely on skill and luck, we also can analyze condition & think about strategy about how to make profit.
So, i think there aren't any major difference between stocks trading & gambling. The only difference is stock tradings is 100% legal, while gambling isn't legal.

Some gambling such as poker relies more on skill as you bet against other players. Dice is mainly lucky based.

You can be the most knowledgeable poker player in the world and you can still lose. Skill alone is not enough of a factor in gambling.
In fact in most games it is rather insignificant. But from the other hand with proper knowledge about trading, stocks and condition of the companies you won't lose money on investing.

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