Is there a difference between buying shares in the stock exchange and gambling? - page 9.

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Quote from: klf on November 14, 2015, 11:56:54 PM

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Quote from: knightkon on November 14, 2015, 09:48:31 PM

Buying shares of stock is just another form of gambling disguised as investing. The only difference is that you can do some research into your purchase to determine if that is a good idea to make the purchase. The only real difference is that you can look into your "investment" to see if you think you are making a good bet.

Even then, with research you are still only guessing that the price goes up, or that you are buying at a low price, it is just a form of gambling

I think you don't the meaning of share market investment that's why you telling that investing in share market is guessing game. But real scenario is your buying a business if you don't understand the company business then don't invest in that company. So as per me share market investment for long term is totally different from gambling.

So I am guessing you are extremely rich from this, like millions because if you are able to do this you should have no problem repeating it. No?

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Quote from: Aemon on November 14, 2015, 10:17:09 PM

Quote from: knightkon on November 14, 2015, 09:48:31 PM

Buying shares of stock is just another form of gambling disguised as investing. The only difference is that you can do some research into your purchase to determine if that is a good idea to make the purchase. The only real difference is that you can look into your "investment" to see if you think you are making a good bet.

Even then, with research you are still only guessing that the price goes up, or that you are buying at a low price, it is just a form of gambling

I think you don't the meaning of share market investment that's why you telling that investing in share market is guessing game. But real scenario is your buying a business if you don't understand the company business then don't invest in that company. So as per me share market investment for long term is totally different from gambling.

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Quote from: knightkon on November 14, 2015, 09:48:31 PM

Buying shares of stock is just another form of gambling disguised as investing.

If you are using a short term strategy like day trading then you are not investing anything . Some people buy stock for long term but sometimes people buy it for short term

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Quote from: knightkon on November 14, 2015, 09:48:31 PM

Buying shares of stock is just another form of gambling disguised as investing. The only difference is that you can do some research into your purchase to determine if that is a good idea to make the purchase. The only real difference is that you can look into your "investment" to see if you think you are making a good bet.

Even then, with research you are still only guessing that the price goes up, or that you are buying at a low price, it is just a form of gambling

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Buying shares of stock is just another form of gambling disguised as investing. The only difference is that you can do some research into your purchase to determine if that is a good idea to make the purchase. The only real difference is that you can look into your "investment" to see if you think you are making a good bet.

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Quote from: Aemon on November 13, 2015, 03:12:23 PM

I personally don't think there is that much of a difference. In the end you are risking your money to gain money. I think the people who say differently problem won some cash from the market and assume its safe, it isn't.

No one said any investment is 100% safe, but at the least with stock shares you're placing money on something other than just odds on a payout table.
The only way those two investments can be considered to have even chances of making a profit is if you have no knowledge about stock market and shares you are investing in.

Even with "knowledge" of the stock market you still have risk. If it was possible to have knowledge everyone would be doing it and everyone would be rich. The bottom line is you are guessing and hoping for the best.

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Quote from: fox19891989 on November 14, 2015, 11:26:53 AM

almost same, trading stocks means speculation or investment, gambling is also one kine of speculation. trading altcoin means gambling too,but i prefer gambling cause at least i have fun if i lost money, but i don't have fun on trading.

Yes that correct, if you trading shares or alt coins on daily basis then both gambling and trading are same. But if you invest money on good companies like Apple or Google then over the time your share price will surely will appreciate and time to time you will get dividends from company. So investing for long term in share and gambling are different.

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Quote from: DonFintoni on November 14, 2015, 12:26:24 PM

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I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

They are both very similar in that if you are disciplined, patient and do your homework you could make long term profits. But most people participants in financial trading/gambling don't do this and don't make long term profits.

I think if your talking about day trading then correct mostly people make a mistake and lose money in share market but if one buy a good company shares then mostly they will make a good profits over the time. But in case of gambling one will either win profits fast or lose every thing at instantly so both are not same.

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Quote from: MinerHQ on October 25, 2015, 10:12:20 PM

I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

They are both very similar in that if you are disciplined, patient and do your homework you could make long term profits. But most people participants in financial trading/gambling don't do this and don't make long term profits.

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almost same, trading stocks means speculation or investment, gambling is also one kine of speculation. trading altcoin means gambling too,but i prefer gambling cause at least i have fun if i lost money, but i don't have fun on trading.

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There are differences and similarities between buying shares of a company and gambling. Both activities involve risk of capital with hopes of future profit. Gambling is typically a short-lived activity, while stock investing can last a lifetime. Some companies actually pay you money in the form of dividends to go along with owning stock in them.

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How many exchange have a share to sell ? I have see only one, and the price to share is very high, paragonated to the daily earn.
For now, i prefer invest in gambling with investment program

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There is. With gambling you have a house edge against you, and there is no hint whatsoever what the next roll/play might be.

With stocks you can predict a general trend over the next few months and there is no house edge.

Also gambling is addicting while trading stocks? Not really addicting IMO.

If one use share market for predicting every day movement then there is not difference between share market and gambling because no one can predict share market how it moves on daily basis but if any one invest money on some good company and ready to wait for long time then it is investment and they can really make some good profits from share markets.

Yes that is 100% true if any one doing a day trading in share market mostly likely one day they will lose all their earning because no one can predict share market prices on daily basis but for long term point of view any one can analyze the business and invest in some good companies to make profits from their business.

Yes, in day trading no one can make any profits and it is almost same as gambling so do not try day trading in share market and it is completely manipulated some times.

@raajlucky You have no clue about profits made in day trading my wall street experts.You could probably google and see how smart folks have turned all the cashless stuff into million dollars by day trading .This wasnt even cheating but smart ways of doing stuff.This is no where close to gambling ,it is totally based on intellect and financial knowledge .

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Buy and hold of shares in companies which do something efficiently which you approve of ought to be a way of promoting popular and ethical companies and a game of skill and knowledge. What we get instead is that for every page of correct technical product description on which to base investment decisions, we have the distraction of hundreds of "buy this now!" nonsenses. That Wall St nonsenses and sometimes outright lies outnumber correct technical information is what makes giving money to Wall St a game of chance and not a game of skill and knowledge.

There is also the macroeconomic element: if you know that next year someone will print off another T$ then "stupid risks" are only stupid for the taxpayer; for yourself you play "heads I win, tails somebody else loses" as many times as they'll let you. To participate in a market like that in which the honest money of a worker is diluted from time to time with bailout money is like going into a casino in a town where the whales get a big pile of chips on the house while you, the workers, pay for the house.

Therefore betting on Wall St. is disfavourable by comparison to straightforward gambling with a house advantage of a few %.

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Quote from: raaajlucky on November 14, 2015, 08:08:11 AM

Yes, in day trading no one can make any profits and it is almost same as gambling so do not try day trading in share market and it is completely manipulated some times.

Every trading is manipulated and not just stock market. It is the true taste of trading and it is normal. The more someone control something, the higher chance it will be used to manipulate the whole system

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Quote from: Linuld on November 14, 2015, 07:20:38 AM

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Quote from: FrostStick on November 14, 2015, 03:32:27 AM

There is. With gambling you have a house edge against you, and there is no hint whatsoever what the next roll/play might be.

With stocks you can predict a general trend over the next few months and there is no house edge.

Also gambling is addicting while trading stocks? Not really addicting IMO.

If one use share market for predicting every day movement then there is not difference between share market and gambling because no one can predict share market how it moves on daily basis but if any one invest money on some good company and ready to wait for long time then it is investment and they can really make some good profits from share markets.

Yes that is 100% true if any one doing a day trading in share market mostly likely one day they will lose all their earning because no one can predict share market prices on daily basis but for long term point of view any one can analyze the business and invest in some good companies to make profits from their business.

Yes, in day trading no one can make any profits and it is almost same as gambling so do not try day trading in share market and it is completely manipulated some times.

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Quote from: futurebit640 on November 14, 2015, 07:12:06 AM

Quote from: FrostStick on November 14, 2015, 03:32:27 AM

There is. With gambling you have a house edge against you, and there is no hint whatsoever what the next roll/play might be.

With stocks you can predict a general trend over the next few months and there is no house edge.

Also gambling is addicting while trading stocks? Not really addicting IMO.

If one use share market for predicting every day movement then there is not difference between share market and gambling because no one can predict share market how it moves on daily basis but if any one invest money on some good company and ready to wait for long time then it is investment and they can really make some good profits from share markets.

Yes that is 100% true if any one doing a day trading in share market mostly likely one day they will lose all their earning because no one can predict share market prices on daily basis but for long term point of view any one can analyze the business and invest in some good companies to make profits from their business.

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Quote from: FrostStick on November 14, 2015, 03:32:27 AM

There is. With gambling you have a house edge against you, and there is no hint whatsoever what the next roll/play might be.

With stocks you can predict a general trend over the next few months and there is no house edge.

Also gambling is addicting while trading stocks? Not really addicting IMO.

If one use share market for predicting every day movement then there is not difference between share market and gambling because no one can predict share market how it moves on daily basis but if any one invest money on some good company and ready to wait for long time then it is investment and they can really make some good profits from share markets.

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There is. With gambling you have a house edge against you, and there is no hint whatsoever what the next roll/play might be.

With stocks you can predict a general trend over the next few months and there is no house edge.

Also gambling is addicting while trading stocks? Not really addicting IMO.

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Quote from: MinerHQ on October 25, 2015, 10:12:20 PM

I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

Share market players are smart,they tend to make decisions based on historic patterns/data analysis and they seem to be correct most of the time [we'e speaking of legit share market traders from the wall street and not bunch of gamblers who read about sharemarket yesterday and made a dmat account today].While gamblers are people looking for winning streaks totally dependent on luck.There is no rocket science involved.

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