Is there a difference between buying shares in the stock exchange and gambling? - page 13.

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Quote from: futurebit640 on November 03, 2015, 12:43:26 AM

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Quote from: maku on November 02, 2015, 11:12:16 PM

There are some core differences of which I can think now:

1. Gambling is not time consuming while stock investing can last several years.
2. In stock investment you can limit your loses, if you notice that your stocks are unstable, you sell it.
3. Reading stock market is something that can be done more of less, you can never predict outcome of your gambling session.
4. In stock investment the more you can buy the better you end. With gambling there is no guarantee.
5. Gambling is pure luck based game. From the other hand with the right research, you are very unlikely to lose in stock investing. With Gambling you can always lose.

Yes gambling is not consuming because any way one will going to lose their money so again no need to waste time in research

That is correct, if any one gambling means it is more likely they may be losing that money at the end but in some cases it also need lot time to predict the end results. For example, in house racing people go mad in doing research work on jockey and horse for hours or even few days of analysis before betting so in both cases time is required.

Yes it is true. Gambling also need a time to think who can win if betting in any sports so just take money and can't bet on someone. Both gambling and investing in stocks need time to check the history and need to take a decision. However to play games like dice no need of any thinking just need a luck.

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Quote from: raaajlucky on November 03, 2015, 12:12:24 AM

Quote from: maku on November 02, 2015, 11:12:16 PM

There are some core differences of which I can think now:

1. Gambling is not time consuming while stock investing can last several years.
2. In stock investment you can limit your loses, if you notice that your stocks are unstable, you sell it.
3. Reading stock market is something that can be done more of less, you can never predict outcome of your gambling session.
4. In stock investment the more you can buy the better you end. With gambling there is no guarantee.
5. Gambling is pure luck based game. From the other hand with the right research, you are very unlikely to lose in stock investing. With Gambling you can always lose.

Yes gambling is not consuming because any way one will going to lose their money so again no need to waste time in research

That is correct, if any one gambling means it is more likely they may be losing that money at the end but in some cases it also need lot time to predict the end results. For example, in house racing people go mad in doing research work on jockey and horse for hours or even few days of analysis before betting so in both cases time is required.

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Quote from: beepboopbeep on November 02, 2015, 07:23:03 PM

Quote from: hua_hui on November 02, 2015, 07:01:27 PM

well for stock, you can actually do some research to have a better knowledge of the situation to predict what will happen. and if you are really confidence of the stock, it can go up and up and up, not like gamble whereby you can keep going up nonstop just by having a 1time transaction.

Exactly, same can be said with gambling and forex. Roulette or blackjack is just faith in random number generation.

Gambling and forex is almost same, but there are have a different, forex is have a features like stock exchange, but you can lose everything if you not use good analyze and play greedy. So if you take an order in forex without analyze before, it's same as you gambling with it.

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Quote from: MinerHQ on October 25, 2015, 10:12:20 PM

I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

To be honest I think it's quite the same. You can make huge risks in stock market if you want, and you can play it safe and just buy and wit to collect dividends, but there are no guarantees it will work.
You can do the same in gambling, you can even trade in sports betting, so it's al the same for me.

I think if you invest in some good companies and if you can watch out on company activities like what are the new products they are planning, how they manage their customers and how people think about their products they you can invest your money without much risk like putting money in gambling. Because after you investment if some bad news about company then still you can sell take some portion of your money back but in case of gambling you will get zero after losing.

Agree with this, this is what the big different between stock exchange and gambling, some people still think if both same, wrong, it's different. Stock exchange can't make you poor, otherwise gambling is do, if you start addict play too much.

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Quote from: maku on November 02, 2015, 11:12:16 PM

There are some core differences of which I can think now:

1. Gambling is not time consuming while stock investing can last several years.
2. In stock investment you can limit your loses, if you notice that your stocks are unstable, you sell it.
3. Reading stock market is something that can be done more of less, you can never predict outcome of your gambling session.
4. In stock investment the more you can buy the better you end. With gambling there is no guarantee.
5. Gambling is pure luck based game. From the other hand with the right research, you are very unlikely to lose in stock investing. With Gambling you can always lose.

Yes gambling is not consuming because any way one will going to lose their money so again no need to waste time in research

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There are some core differences of which I can think now:

1. Gambling is not time consuming while stock investing can last several years.
2. In stock investment you can limit your loses, if you notice that your stocks are unstable, you sell it.
3. Reading stock market is something that can be done more of less, you can never predict outcome of your gambling session.
4. In stock investment the more you can buy the better you end. With gambling there is no guarantee.
5. Gambling is pure luck based game. From the other hand with the right research, you are very unlikely to lose in stock investing. With Gambling you can always lose.

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Quote from: e1ghtSpace on November 02, 2015, 07:30:22 PM

Stock exchange I think is better than gambling because if you're smart enough you can consistently win. It just takes longer but it is less risky.

Yes that is correct, if not constantly but if one plan for long time perspective then surely one can make some profits from share market but if you plan for short term like day trading then it will be quite risky but still you may not lose complete investments like in gambling if your smart enough when to exit.

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Quote from: FrueGreads on November 02, 2015, 06:06:13 PM

Quote from: MinerHQ on October 25, 2015, 10:12:20 PM

I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

To be honest I think it's quite the same. You can make huge risks in stock market if you want, and you can play it safe and just buy and wit to collect dividends, but there are no guarantees it will work.
You can do the same in gambling, you can even trade in sports betting, so it's al the same for me.

I think if you invest in some good companies and if you can watch out on company activities like what are the new products they are planning, how they manage their customers and how people think about their products they you can invest your money without much risk like putting money in gambling. Because after you investment if some bad news about company then still you can sell take some portion of your money back but in case of gambling you will get zero after losing.

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Quote from: KokiFurihata on November 02, 2015, 05:12:31 PM

I guess any type of investment is a form of gambling. The casino type gambling is just less sophisticated

I wouldn't necessarily say that it would be "less sophisticated" because there are a lot of strategies to a lot of casino games... maybe not dice per se, but poker and black jack hold some sophistication to it.

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Stock exchange I think is better than gambling because if you're smart enough you can consistently win. It just takes longer but it is less risky.

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Quote from: hua_hui on November 02, 2015, 07:01:27 PM

well for stock, you can actually do some research to have a better knowledge of the situation to predict what will happen. and if you are really confidence of the stock, it can go up and up and up, not like gamble whereby you can keep going up nonstop just by having a 1time transaction.

Exactly, same can be said with gambling and forex. Roulette or blackjack is just faith in random number generation.

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well for stock, you can actually do some research to have a better knowledge of the situation to predict what will happen. and if you are really confidence of the stock, it can go up and up and up, not like gamble whereby you can keep going up nonstop just by having a 1time transaction.

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If you are gambling, win or loss is instant and unreversible. In case of stock trading you can decide and say if the game has ended (and you sell the stock with profit or loss) or you wait a bit more. If you wait, it can help your chances to become better.

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Quote from: MinerHQ on October 25, 2015, 10:12:20 PM

I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

To be honest I think it's quite the same. You can make huge risks in stock market if you want, and you can play it safe and just buy and wit to collect dividends, but there are no guarantees it will work.
You can do the same in gambling, you can even trade in sports betting, so it's al the same for me.

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Yes, There is a huge difference.
When I am buying shares in a stock I can study the stock and predict whether the stock will profit or make a loss.
Gambling on the other hand has only 2 options: Win or Loose.

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Quote from: shanem on November 02, 2015, 10:02:54 AM

You can hold a stock if it drops by a lot but once you loses in gambling you lost your bet. Buying stock is seemingly less risky as you can hold for a long period of time.

That is a very good point. When the share price drop, you company is still there, it may recover one day. When you lose your stake, it is gone forever.

A kind of strategy ( or a common technique) that if a share price drops, you buy more to decrease your losses for the case if the price of the share starts to rise again. It's like: you own 2 shares, bought at the price of 100. Price drops to 50. If you just wait for the price to reach 100 again to get to 0 in loss. But if you buy 4 another shares at the price of 50, you only need to wait for the price to reach 75 and you can sell all the 6 shares and you also get to 0 again. It's more likely for the price to reach to 75 than to 100. The only risk in this case is if price won't go over 50 anymore but drops to 25, in this case you have a massive loss of 250, if you sell them.
If you still won't sell them, it's possible that after a period of time the price jumps to 200 and you become rich

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I guess any type of investment is a form of gambling. The casino type gambling is just less sophisticated

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There's a big difference! With gambling, in many ways we can say that you are just playing with luck while if you invest in stockshares you carefully study the market and make the best decision on which share you should invest. In this case it doesn't luck has nothing to do it, but rather have the availability to invest and wait for ROI.

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yes, in my opinion there is. I have a lot more control over my investments in a stock exchange as opposed to gambling. gambling is win lose, stocks are gradations of win and loss.

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Quote from: shanem on November 02, 2015, 10:02:54 AM

You can hold a stock if it drops by a lot but once you loses in gambling you lost your bet. Buying stock is seemingly less risky as you can hold for a long period of time.

That is a very good point. When the share price drop, you company is still there, it may recover one day. When you lose your stake, it is gone forever.

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You can hold a stock if it drops by a lot but once you loses in gambling you lost your bet. Buying stock is seemingly less risky as you can hold for a long period of time.

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