Is there a difference between buying shares in the stock exchange and gambling? - page 4.

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Quote from: hua_hui on October 25, 2015, 10:29:37 PM

there is a huge different in stock exchange n gamble. stock exchange is usually depends on what is their decision and you predict whether it will be positive or negative. by looking up at news, you can roughly predict better in outcome. whereby gamble is mainly depend on luck.

Exactly. Stock exchange requires a lot of background research if you want to be safe. Whereas gambling depends purely on luck.

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Gambling is more safer than stock exchange shares in my opinion.There are many differences in both as to start each you need different kind of information and money.

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Quote from: MaxTax on December 26, 2015, 09:16:20 PM

Duh, the risk is different.

Gambling is a 100% win or a 100% loss
With stock you got at least the chance to cover up some lose of your money. With some proper research you are 99% safe.

I don't agree with you where you said in stock exchange you have chance to recover losses.When value of shares fall down you simple loose your money in a matter of minutes without having any single chance to recover it.

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There is no difference in gambling and stock exchange shares both let you without money in the end.The reason you don't have enough bankroll/funds to recover your losses.

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Quote from: hua_hui on October 25, 2015, 10:29:37 PM

there is a huge different in stock exchange n gamble. stock exchange is usually depends on what is their decision and you predict whether it will be positive or negative. by looking up at news, you can roughly predict better in outcome. whereby gamble is mainly depend on luck.

Exactly. Stock exchange requires a lot of background research if you want to be safe. Whereas gambling depends purely on luck.

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In gambling you have control over your funds and moves while stock shares are not in your control even risk factor is in both things.In gambling at least winning/losing depends on you too but stock shares is a game of elite to make profit from small investors.

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Stock exchange is legal while gambling isn't legal in my country. There is a risk factor in both both that does not make them the same as the shares you buy make you an owner of part of the company and it's not true that one can lose their money by owning shares. It definitely can cause a loss but gambling gives you nothing in exchange of your money except losses or wins (which is again money). If the gambling website or place turns scam, you don't even get your winnings unlike stock market where you get a percent back.

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Quote from: Erza on December 27, 2015, 01:57:46 AM

Quote from: MaxTax on December 26, 2015, 09:16:20 PM

Duh, the risk is different.

Gambling is a 100% win or a 100% loss
With stock you got at least the chance to cover up some lose of your money. With some proper research you are 99% safe.

Gambling will never 100% guarantee win because the chance is different and there are still houseedge that you need to consider it. And I dont think there is 99% safe in any stocks or investments or whatever. Everything that you do will have risk to take, higher risk higher gain

Thats where bankroll management comes in, if you can bet with an advantage and you do it over and over again the chances of long term winnings can = something crazy like 99.99999999999999%.

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Quote from: Odien on December 26, 2015, 10:21:05 PM

Yes, stock exchanges you can pump the market or dump but with gambling it's pure luck.

You need alot of capital if you want to manipulate stock market but even if you manipulate it, stock market will keep holding as long as the company is strong someone will buy alot of its shares back so you will just waste your time and money doing it

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Quote from: MaxTax on December 26, 2015, 09:16:20 PM

Duh, the risk is different.

Gambling is a 100% win or a 100% loss
With stock you got at least the chance to cover up some lose of your money. With some proper research you are 99% safe.

Gambling will never 100% guarantee win because the chance is different and there are still houseedge that you need to consider it. And I dont think there is 99% safe in any stocks or investments or whatever. Everything that you do will have risk to take, higher risk higher gain

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Yes, stock exchanges you can pump the market or dump but with gambling it's pure luck.

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Quote from: MaxTax on December 26, 2015, 09:16:20 PM

Duh, the risk is different.

Gambling is a 100% win or a 100% loss
With stock you got at least the chance to cover up some lose of your money. With some proper research you are 99% safe.

There are no thing like 99% safe at stock trading because if there is this safe method then everyone will win already and rich but only some people get profit at stock trading and the rest lose some amount of their capital somit is almost the same like gambling

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Duh, the risk is different.

Gambling is a 100% win or a 100% loss
With stock you got at least the chance to cover up some lose of your money. With some proper research you are 99% safe.

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Quote from: fravia on December 26, 2015, 12:30:11 PM

to my mind there is nearly no difference, buying stocks is like gambling in my opinion as no one can predict how the price of it will fluctuate and if you will win money or loose the same is in gambling if you roll dice you cant predict the outcome and you cant predict if you will end up in profits

It looks like you don't have an idea of how to buy shares that's why you're saying both are same.

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Quote from: fravia on December 26, 2015, 12:30:11 PM

to my mind there is nearly no difference, buying stocks is like gambling in my opinion as no one can predict how the price of it will fluctuate and if you will win money or loose the same is in gambling if you roll dice you cant predict the outcome and you cant predict if you will end up in profits

If you buy any stock without a proper knowledge about the company working model or what they do but if any one study company well before investing than they can surly predict what will the future price of that company. So never ever invest in any company without knowing about them very clearly. If do that then you will realize both gambling and stock market investing are different.

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TLDR all the posts, but the difference is gambling is exactly that "Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize.

Investing in the stock market over the long term should be done by buying strong companies with increasing earnings ideally at a market value less than they should be worth in the future. Now something I don't recommend but it can be hit or miss is speculating in the market, which is the only thing related to gambling in the stock exchange.

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Quote from: hua_hui on October 25, 2015, 10:29:37 PM

there is a huge different in stock exchange n gamble. stock exchange is usually depends on what is their decision and you predict whether it will be positive or negative. by looking up at news, you can roughly predict better in outcome. whereby gamble is mainly depend on luck.

Thats only true is gambling also have negative EV (playing vs unbeatable house edge).

Thats, however, is not the case. So there is no much diffence, "buying shares" is literally the same gambling at the core of thigs - you are risking x amount of money to make a profit, because you like the odds that it will happen.

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Quote from: fravia on December 26, 2015, 12:30:11 PM

no one can predict how the price of it will fluctuate

Actually you can, its not really difficult to predict how the stock market works because they fluctuate because of rumours. The stock markets are based on rumours and there is a chance that you can short the market when the rumours are going big about some companies

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to my mind there is nearly no difference, buying stocks is like gambling in my opinion as no one can predict how the price of it will fluctuate and if you will win money or loose the same is in gambling if you roll dice you cant predict the outcome and you cant predict if you will end up in profits

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Quote from: maku on December 26, 2015, 07:55:30 AM

By investing you can help companies you believe in, such as socially or environmentally conscious firms and or new tech companies that are working on inventions that might affect you or someone close to you.
By gambling you are not making any contribution towards that goal, instead you are fueling casinos and occasional gain personal profit if you win.

Both have different meaning but actually you are describing the same thing, both is to get personal profit for ourselves. No one will fund some company or buy their share unless they want to gamble about it and try to make profit from that. Investing is just another form of gambling mostly for long term

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