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Topic: Is there a difference between buying shares in the stock exchange and gambling? - page 5. (Read 12318 times)

hero member
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Yes, most of the stock markets are regulated by government rules. But still some inside traders to do the fraud but not in all companies where as in gambling the system itself like that, one can easily lose all there money without any pain. The pain will start only after losing money.

 

Thing is though, people investing through a stock market won't be in danger of total loss of capital overnight (with rare exceptions) thanks to those regulations. There's no way for the stock market itself to steal the money of investors in the same way bitcoin dices and casinos are able to steal deposits without any hassle.

That's true, my argument also same. In stock market if one can analyse company properly then they can make lot of money over the time but we can't make money over night in stock market. If we buy some good company shares and hold for few years than we can really get a lot of profits but we should choose a right stocks to invest at right time.
sr. member
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The stock exchange has no house edge. Nor is it random.
The stock exchange is always sadly compared to gambling. It's not. That's comparing apples and oranges.

The stock exchange is predicable, as you can see the financial choices made by a company and your can decide yourself whether it's time to buy or sell.

Gambling, on the other hand, is random. Sure you can change the client but the server seed is the key.
hero member
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Yes, most of the stock markets are regulated by government rules. But still some inside traders to do the fraud but not in all companies where as in gambling the system itself like that, one can easily lose all there money without any pain. The pain will start only after losing money.

 

Thing is though, people investing through a stock market won't be in danger of total loss of capital overnight (with rare exceptions) thanks to those regulations. There's no way for the stock market itself to steal the money of investors in the same way bitcoin dices and casinos are able to steal deposits without any hassle.
hero member
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Well, the difference is only in place and how to get the money, if you can monetize through exchanger of good results, whereas if you buy shares in gambling you get money from a bad result, but it all depends on your point of view

I really didn't understood anything from your post.

I think that historically, there have been many incidents where the market makers at a stock market dissipated with customer money and nobody had the ability to prosecute them or even trace them in the first place. Also bitcoin gambling is equally regulated so I'd say it's exactly the same.

I feel you're not correct. If you invest money in some good reputed companies than you will surely get profits over the time and dividends regularly but your profit margins may not be like in gambling. But in gambling you totally depending on your luck to earn money so you can't put all you're savings in to gambling to grow your money so for me both are different.

My post was full of irony. In reality, stocks are at least secured by law and regulations. Bitcoin websites are entirely unregulated and there's currently no legislation in place to protect users. In terms of trust, stocks are much much better. Surely the profit potential isn't as great, still not that big of a risk as total loss isn't normal.

Yes, most of the stock markets are regulated by government rules. But still some inside traders to do the fraud but not in all companies where as in gambling the system itself like that, one can easily lose all there money without any pain. The pain will start only after losing money.

 
legendary
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Well, the difference is only in place and how to get the money, if you can monetize through exchanger of good results, whereas if you buy shares in gambling you get money from a bad result, but it all depends on your point of view
hero member
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I think that historically, there have been many incidents where the market makers at a stock market dissipated with customer money and nobody had the ability to prosecute them or even trace them in the first place. Also bitcoin gambling is equally regulated so I'd say it's exactly the same.

I feel you're not correct. If you invest money in some good reputed companies than you will surely get profits over the time and dividends regularly but your profit margins may not be like in gambling. But in gambling you totally depending on your luck to earn money so you can't put all you're savings in to gambling to grow your money so for me both are different.

My post was full of irony. In reality, stocks are at least secured by law and regulations. Bitcoin websites are entirely unregulated and there's currently no legislation in place to protect users. In terms of trust, stocks are much much better. Surely the profit potential isn't as great, still not that big of a risk as total loss isn't normal.
klf
legendary
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I think that historically, there have been many incidents where the market makers at a stock market dissipated with customer money and nobody had the ability to prosecute them or even trace them in the first place. Also bitcoin gambling is equally regulated so I'd say it's exactly the same.

I feel you're not correct. If you invest money in some good reputed companies than you will surely get profits over the time and dividends regularly but your profit margins may not be like in gambling. But in gambling you totally depending on your luck to earn money so you can't put all you're savings in to gambling to grow your money so for me both are different.
hero member
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I think that historically, there have been many incidents where the market makers at a stock market dissipated with customer money and nobody had the ability to prosecute them or even trace them in the first place. Also bitcoin gambling is equally regulated so I'd say it's exactly the same.
legendary
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The stock exchange has no house edge. Economics is the house. And If you know how to economics? Then you know how to earn. Economics is predictable, and if you earn enough money, you can manipulate the market. Just do your research.
To manipulate the market in the end you have to manipulate the customers, but I think if something is not 100% sure that the manipulation is working, you can lose more after. It can be a key point that different market sizes needs different amount to manipulate,e.g. you won't manipulate NYSE but on smaller sub markets maybe it is possible if you have the necessary funds.

Manipulation in stock market is not so easy task for individual persons. But only if any big institutions involved yes, they can do it for some time because finally they will get caught in the system. No one can manipulate either any individual stock or stock market for ever. So just buy a good company shares and make some profits, just forget about manipulations.
hero member
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The stock exchange has no house edge. Economics is the house. And If you know how to economics? Then you know how to earn. Economics is predictable, and if you earn enough money, you can manipulate the market. Just do your research.
To manipulate the market in the end you have to manipulate the customers, but I think if something is not 100% sure that the manipulation is working, you can lose more after. It can be a key point that different market sizes needs different amount to manipulate,e.g. you won't manipulate NYSE but on smaller sub markets maybe it is possible if you have the necessary funds.
sr. member
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It's close to being the same thing but there are small differences between these two. With gambling you're in direct control of your money.
With stocks you are going to have to watch the news and the market at the same time.
legendary
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The stock exchange has no house edge. Economics is the house. And If you know how to economics? Then you know how to earn. Economics is predictable, and if you earn enough money, you can manipulate the market. Just do your research.
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do you think it is absolutely true, but it will not happen if the players have a lot of trick in gambling. And I always do it though there is also a trick that makes the defeat because of a lack of calculation.

Gambling only for entertainment and to see how lucky we are using trick we wear.  Wink Wink
newbie
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there is. there are times when you predict where it goes with stocks. you just have to wait for them. If you want to predict where it goes at any given moment it's not much different from pure gambling
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You can have some sort of knowledge on where the stock market is going to go next but with gambling the outcome is pure luck.
sr. member
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It's close to being the same thing. With both, stock exchange and gambling you're taking risks to lose.
There is no guarantee that you will win and make profits. It's still a gamble you take with both of them. You just gotta hope for the best and be a bit lucky.
klf
legendary
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To put in simple, general definition of gambling vs. investing is: In investing, the odds are in your favor. In gambling, the odds are against you. That is the main difference between gambling and investing.

Also: Gambling is entertainment, investing is business.  Therefore, gamblers are people who seek risk - investors are trying to avert it.



I think you understood investing meaning wrongly. Even in investing there is no guaranty that odds in favour of investors but may be better chances that they can win. Off course gambling is very risky and we can't compare it with investing in shares. In the long run investments will mostly give us profits for sure.
hero member
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Vires in Numeris
The difference between pure gambling and buying stocks of companies is that you are betting on the future of the company and you have a track record you can research. It is a long term investment. But the day to day movements of the stock market are somewhat random, so trying to time the market and make money off the random swings is gambling in a different form.

there is different terms for buying of stocks. so if you are trying to time off the market and buy low and sell high within a certain time frame, it is call speculation of stock. but if you buy and leave it there for years, den it is call an investment.
In stock trading you can diversify 3 main time frame based on the length of the position (time between opening and closeing the position).
Day trading is the shortest, it's intra day position, takes the biggest risk.
Swing trade is longer, from day to several weeks, but it is still a kind of gambling.
Long term trading can be the investment because in that trade you can and should base your decisions on examinations, analysis'
So it's only long term trading can be called an investment, the shorters are mainly based on luck.
legendary
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The difference between pure gambling and buying stocks of companies is that you are betting on the future of the company and you have a track record you can research. It is a long term investment. But the day to day movements of the stock market are somewhat random, so trying to time the market and make money off the random swings is gambling in a different form.

there is different terms for buying of stocks. so if you are trying to time off the market and buy low and sell high within a certain time frame, it is call speculation of stock. but if you buy and leave it there for years, den it is call an investment.
legendary
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Both have same thing actually, equal risk but yes u cannot compare dice with stock for sure

I think you're wrong. Both got risks but not same risks. Not only these two but all investments will have there own risks but we need to so choose investment products depends on our risk factor. In share market if you invest in some good company surely you will not lose all your investment but in gambling if you lose means immediately you will lose everything so lot of difference between stock market invests and gambling.

They have the same risks between investing on stocks and gambling. Both of them will have the chance of losing but the reason why people keep gambling is because it is fast money eventhough it has far greater risk than stocks. And stocks you will slowly get your money but it is a have a risk too be scammed by them or if you say that is not possible because they have a good background that means you will get some profit in a very long way. So both of them have plus and minus. This just for us to choose which one do they prefer

It looks like you're very much interested in gambling that's why you're thinking or trying to find plus points from gambling but in reality gambling is not same as investment in good companies. When you want fast money that means it is not a investment but you're just checking you're luck but any real investments need a time to go grow your money in legal ways. It looks like you want a fast money so you chose high risk or almost impossible way to grow your money. All the best to you.

Risk and possible reward are always go paralell. If you don't want to take risk because you are a conservative or cautious player, you can expect less reward but if you are this kind of personality, this reward should be enough. If you are a risk taker, you can handle the bigger risk mentally, you can expect more reward. But this does not mean that if you can expect that bigger reward, then you will get it automatically, because of luck. If luck is against you, you can take that risk in vain, you won't get any reward, but loss. And luck is the factor you can't influence, this is gambling about. Someone wins, others lose.

If one going to try every day their luck in gambling means that is biggest mistake. To try you're head is strong or not, no need to go and bang you're head on to wall because from common sense we should think wall is stronger. Like that, every one knows it is almost impossible to win in gambling (online games) so just use it for fun purpose instead of making money from gambling. For growing money investing in stocks are much better option.
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