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Quote from: dansus021 on July 17, 2024, 07:09:47 AM

Is there a legal jurisdiction backing up gamblers against the casino oppression? the answer would be yes as long the casino you are playing is legal both physical and online and as long as "legal". I just do quick google search and found that some country has a regulation that designed to ensure fair play, transparency, and to prevent exploitation or oppression by gambling establishments.

You've just given a direct answer because I see no reason why a gambling company will not be penalized for unfair activities to a gambler when the gambler didn't go against the rules of the gambling site or go against their terms of service because since gambling is legalize in most countries it then means that the government can also intervene if there is any form of manipulation in the system except it involves an illegal gambling site. Gambling with a legal site should also be taken into consideration for every gambler so that if there is any form of intimidation against the gambler, he can file a lawsuit against that gambling company.

Even though some gambling sites this days are becoming fraudulent but they can only succeed on someone who doesn't know a way to seek justice and not for someone who understands the law and can afford a lawyer who can solicit for the gambler but it's unfortunate that most gamblers don't want to hire a lawyer maybe due to the processes, time and money it will take to follow up such a case but they don't think of what they will stand to gain if they win the case against such casino company. Another thing is that a lot of gamblers doesn't have the money to also hire a lawyer who will intercede on their behalf.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.

There isn't any form of jurisdiction for a "common man" , but the case sits well with them if you have a professional & legal practitioner. Obviously, he's gonna be well paid to sue them and, this should also be on a huge fund.

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is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

I know of an investigative site that you could report them to, but you gotta make sure of your claims.. This site doesn't convict 'em for whatever; they only call them to address the issue and if not, they'll label them as a scam site.
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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on July 19, 2024, 09:42:16 AM

Quote from: rodskee on July 17, 2024, 06:27:19 AM

i am sure there are some laws that covers the unlawful doing of a business but it would all depend on your country and what laws you have for gambling some countries may have gambling set as illegal and you reporting a casino when it is illegal to gamble in the first place might put you in a compromising situation

I don't think it's necessary to report it if a country considers gambling to be illegal, because those who report it won't get any reward from the government or anything like that. So it's enough to just ignore it and if we are still hesitant to gamble because of this, of course we ourselves have to look for other ways so as not to show it off too much in any media. So everyone just needs to react to it very wisely and keep themselves safe from being chased by people assigned by their own country's government.

Yeah, pesonally, I think it's plainly stupid to want to go reporting a casino's misconduct to the authorities in a country where gambling is not legal, absolutely a very stupid move which undoubtedly may land the person him or herself in some serious trouble.

So, while leaving in a country where gambling is considered as a big offence as it's against the law, the best form of defense is to choose a highly reputable casino where you have a level of trust that they won't mess up or do anything that would bring issues worth reporting to authorities.

And besides, what actually is a gambling casino doing serving customers from a country where gambling is banned? Except the customers are using VPN to bypass/hide their ip, which in this case, the customers don't even have any right to speak up if for what ever reason, they encounter some serious issues with the casino.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

i am sure there are some laws that covers the unlawful doing of a business but it would all depend on your country and what laws you have for gambling some countries may have gambling set as illegal and you reporting a casino when it is illegal to gamble in the first place might put you in a compromising situation

Yes, it's really depend on the country that you lived in, however, it's going to be very difficult if you have a gambling law but it will have to chase let's say a online casino. So there could be legal jurisdiction and it's hard to implement that law.

Is not about the country where you live, is about the country where the casino has its legal license, you could be gambling on Brazil but if you are playing on a casino with a Curacao license, then you have to adapt to their laws. There is no way that you can sue that casino with brazil laws. And that's why users sign the ToS when they open an account on the casino.

The legal side of casinos nowadays is fun, because the owners live in countries with hard laws, but the casinos have licences from Curacao and the servers are in nowhere, so, is complex to precede on a legal way and more if we think about the jurisdiction.

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Quote from: rodskee on July 17, 2024, 06:27:19 AM

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I don't think it's necessary to report it if a country considers gambling to be illegal, because those who report it won't get any reward from the government or anything like that. So it's enough to just ignore it and if we are still hesitant to gamble because of this, of course we ourselves have to look for other ways so as not to show it off too much in any media. So everyone just needs to react to it very wisely and keep themselves safe from being chased by people assigned by their own country's government.

You just stating the obvious and repeating what he said besides crypto casino itself won’t allow you to play on the casino if you are from a country that has a restriction for online casino since their ToS usually states that they exclude player from restricted country that they didn’t mention so player is gambling at their own risk if they play knowing that their country forbid them to play.

To answer this topic, Every country has a law for casino and you can report it to the agency who provides licenses for the casino to operate. For online casino, Curacao is your best place to file complaints since online casino operates online and the legal jurisdiction cover them are the license provider or the country which the casino operates.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

Pretty sure there is, since casinos are still businesses and you are considered as a customer soon as you get in. In certain scenarios where casinos are taken into court for unlawful practice including cheating their customers out of their money and the likes, customers are able to file legal complaints against them and have won. So yeah, just cause you're an addicted gambler doesn't mean that the law already sees you as the scum of the earth or something.

As per casino sites however, the jurisdiction could be quite tricky cause they will have to follow and be apprehended by the government of the country where they declare base of operations in, in situations wherein you're an online gambler that is let's say, beyond the government's jurisdiction, things may go south and you may not receive compensation even if the casino itself is held accountable and is asked to pay recompense to all their customers, since at the end of the day, you're not within their territory and are therefore beyond their ruling and laws.

Law can be quite tricky sometimes I know, but at the very least it pays to know that when a casino conducts malpractice you have something to hope for.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

Most countries have strict and severe rules over gambling actually, unfortunately they usually don't allow people to bet with cryptos on their local platforms for most of them. But if you are a lucky citizen from a country allowing it then you should be well protected against abuses from those casinos. Because administration and courts usually tend to protect customers against companies of this kind of business, especially when they are known to make large profits.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 19, 2024, 04:39:05 AM

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Maybe many casinos doesn't have their psychical office although they gives an address in their site so that will be another problem to track and solve the case. When the casino have the case, they can moves to the new address and they can write the new address so that will difficult to track them.

Yups, that's their goal is not to have a permanent physical office, they will move from one place to another and are unknown, and it is still happening until now.
But some former employees of illegal online gambling have also started to speak up about how the gambling operates and what are the modes, this is a topic that is being hyped in my country right now.

Quote from: iv4n on July 19, 2024, 07:13:11 AM

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I think gamblers have a better chance to solve their problem here in the forum than through a lawyer, if they have strong evidence. Those with a lot of money probably have lawyers to solve any financial problem, but that's a big league.

But it must also be adjusted to the amount of losses or funds frozen on gambling websites.
If it is only a little, then it is not worth it if you have to use a lawyer, because it does require higher fees.

This forum can be the main means to voice about the cases experienced by everyone on some of the gambling listed here or not.
So everyone will know and can be careful.

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Quote from: rodskee on July 17, 2024, 06:27:19 AM

i am sure there are some laws that covers the unlawful doing of a business but it would all depend on your country and what laws you have for gambling some countries may have gambling set as illegal and you reporting a casino when it is illegal to gamble in the first place might put you in a compromising situation

I don't think it's necessary to report it if a country considers gambling to be illegal, because those who report it won't get any reward from the government or anything like that. So it's enough to just ignore it and if we are still hesitant to gamble because of this, of course we ourselves have to look for other ways so as not to show it off too much in any media. So everyone just needs to react to it very wisely and keep themselves safe from being chased by people assigned by their own country's government.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

In regions where gambling and casinos are regulated, there's always guidelines on operations and also a scrutinized terms which makes sure the customers (gamblers) are protected a s much as possible and the casinos are kept in check while they carry on with their activities but then it's also important the customers get aquinted with these terms and make sure to abide by them so as not to be in a position where they become victims of circumstances.

But for regions where gambling is prohibited or illegal, then it becomes difficult when issues as this arise because for place where they are regulated, issues like this are usually channeled to the regulatory bodies to take actions on them and help the customers get justice as should be.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

Every state has its own gambling laws, but what matters to us citizens is how easy/difficult it is to get justice. In most cases, it all boils down to going to a lawyer, and that can be expensive, especially if it's a problem with companies abroad. So for small sums of money, it's not worth going through it, the costs for lawyers and filing lawsuits can be much more expensive, and there is always the risk of losing and having to pay for everything yourself.

I think gamblers have a better chance to solve their problem here in the forum than through a lawyer, if they have strong evidence. Those with a lot of money probably have lawyers to solve any financial problem, but that's a big league.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 19, 2024, 04:26:00 AM

This is now a never-ending problem, when online casinos do not comply with government rules and commit oppression and fraud on every gambling system they build.

When the office built by the Online Casino is outside the jurisdiction, then it is difficult to catch the problematic casino plotter.
There are even many illegal casino sites that do not have any Audit and only take money from their players for their benefit.

In my country where even casinos are banned, there are many illegal casino sites that are still operating, and they have offices abroad, usually in Thailand and here is just an ordinary house that is used as a temporary office for their admins. This kind of thing has become a case that has never been resolved.

Jurisdiction is the matters that people should thinks because if the casino is outside the jurisdiction, they can't do anything and if they still force solve the problem, that can cost too big. Maybe many casinos doesn't have their psychical office although they gives an address in their site so that will be another problem to track and solve the case. When the casino have the case, they can moves to the new address and they can write the new address so that will difficult to track them.

People are victims of scam and oppression from casinos and they can't do anything. They have lost their money in gambling or those who win cannot withdraw their money because of various requirements given by the casino. The only thing people can do is always be careful when they playing gambling and select the casino carefully so they can avoids the problem.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 17, 2024, 07:37:24 AM

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When it comes to online casino, police will difficult to search for the office and that can break their jurisdiction. The casino can operate in outside of the country so that can makes difficult to process the investigation. The casino owner can runs to other country that doesn't have any relationship so the case will not solve. If the regulator can helps to investigate this matter, maybe gambler will have a chance to solve their problem and wins the case.

This is now a never-ending problem, when online casinos do not comply with government rules and commit oppression and fraud on every gambling system they build.

When the office built by the Online Casino is outside the jurisdiction, then it is difficult to catch the problematic casino plotter.
There are even many illegal casino sites that do not have any Audit and only take money from their players for their benefit.

In my country where even casinos are banned, there are many illegal casino sites that are still operating, and they have offices abroad, usually in Thailand and here is just an ordinary house that is used as a temporary office for their admins. This kind of thing has become a case that has never been resolved.

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Quote from: South Park on June 23, 2024, 01:10:25 PM

The reason why it is easier to go against physical casinos than online ones is that very often you will be on the exact same jurisdiction, so the police can open an investigation about your case and find out the truth about what happened, but when the case is against an online casino this is very difficult to do and costly, so if the amount of money you were scammed is on the low side, it is likely the police will not do too much of an effort to try to solve your case, as it will cost them way more money than what you lost to do this.

The investigation for that casino can be easier because the police can meet anyone that they suspicious so they can get as much info as they wants. But that will only if police can apply justice well because casino can bribe police to against the gamblers and helps the casino to support it.

When it comes to online casino, police will difficult to search for the office and that can break their jurisdiction. The casino can operate in outside of the country so that can makes difficult to process the investigation. The casino owner can runs to other country that doesn't have any relationship so the case will not solve. If the regulator can helps to investigate this matter, maybe gambler will have a chance to solve their problem and wins the case.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

i am sure there are some laws that covers the unlawful doing of a business but it would all depend on your country and what laws you have for gambling some countries may have gambling set as illegal and you reporting a casino when it is illegal to gamble in the first place might put you in a compromising situation

Yes, it's really depend on the country that you lived in, however, it's going to be very difficult if you have a gambling law but it will have to chase let's say a online casino. So there could be legal jurisdiction and it's hard to implement that law.

So with that, we should really gamble on casinos that has reputation already, or at least casinos that has been with us here in the community. And even if they have accusations against them, they quickly settled it because they know that their trust and reputation are on the line. As compare to a supposedly new casinos that are just trying to get their reputation here, however, they chooses to scam and not pay their players.

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Is there a legal jurisdiction backing up gamblers against the casino oppression? the answer would be yes as long the casino you are playing is legal both physical and online and as long as "legal". I just do quick google search and found that some country has a regulation that designed to ensure fair play, transparency, and to prevent exploitation or oppression by gambling establishments.

But this all depend where you live like example US gambling is primarily regulated at the state level. Each state has its own gaming commission or regulatory body that oversees gambling activities.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

i am sure there are some laws that covers the unlawful doing of a business but it would all depend on your country and what laws you have for gambling some countries may have gambling set as illegal and you reporting a casino when it is illegal to gamble in the first place might put you in a compromising situation

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 23, 2024, 08:38:03 AM

.. many gamblers like 1xBit it seems like there is nothing that can be done because playing there is already a mistake, and giving up your funds there is the only option.

No, dont play in those websites. Actually that website has already spread its malicious advertising campaign in so many places, pirated movies are having their clips inserted in the movie file and the usualy audience of such movies are less paid common men with a interest in gambling.

Even then, those websites who are running on their forum for years, there is no dearth of them, everyone should use those sites. In the current years the number of casinos have boomed so much that it is hard to keep track, where there were only a handful of them when I first came to the forum.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

As far as I know, everything is done personally by hiring a lawyer and of course the evidence must be strong in order to win in court, but I have never read of a gambler who succeeded in winning a case against an online casino, some of the cases I have read were against physical casinos.

For online casinos you can use this forum, when you feel cheated by the casino but the evidence must be strong, lucky if the casino has an announcement thread here if not then at least it can raise awareness for other players not to use the casino, but if your case is against the casino online which is proven to deceive many gamblers like 1xBit it seems like there is nothing that can be done because playing there is already a mistake, and giving up your funds there is the only option.

The reason why it is easier to go against physical casinos than online ones is that very often you will be on the exact same jurisdiction, so the police can open an investigation about your case and find out the truth about what happened, but when the case is against an online casino this is very difficult to do and costly, so if the amount of money you were scammed is on the low side, it is likely the police will not do too much of an effort to try to solve your case, as it will cost them way more money than what you lost to do this.

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Quote from: AVE5 on June 03, 2024, 05:59:40 AM

I was thinking if there's a jurisdiction conveyed to backup gamblers during when the casino tends to take advantage over a gambler such as when a the casino penalizes a gambler uncalledfully without a prove of violation.
I only learn that some individuals can only take such case personal upon themselves for a resolution of justice for such a helpless gambler but my question is if is there any jurisdiction to backup interests of gamblers as much terms and conditions of casino sites lies to tender legal backups to the Casino companies?

As far as I know, everything is done personally by hiring a lawyer and of course the evidence must be strong in order to win in court, but I have never read of a gambler who succeeded in winning a case against an online casino, some of the cases I have read were against physical casinos.

For online casinos you can use this forum, when you feel cheated by the casino but the evidence must be strong, lucky if the casino has an announcement thread here if not then at least it can raise awareness for other players not to use the casino, but if your case is against the casino online which is proven to deceive many gamblers like 1xBit it seems like there is nothing that can be done because playing there is already a mistake, and giving up your funds there is the only option.

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