Topic: Is there a legal jurisdiction backing up gamblers against the casino oppression? - page 3. (Read 941 times)

There are even worse situations, which is gambling being illegal in some nations which means that we are talking about a situation that is impossible for you to sue any place. This is why I think it should be noted how you could do something, meaning if a casino screws you over, literally scams your money and says openly that they stole your money, you still can't do anything at all.

How are you going to go to courts and say "this casino scammed me" when it is illegal for you to have any money in any casino? That is why it's clear that some places are just not caring about you at all. Plus, there are some casinos who are established at shady places, meaning that they do not care if they steal your money or not.

Such commission to have justification between dealers and vendors isn't also here in my country and to tackle such oppressive casino case in the law courts when the gambler isn't rich enough to face the gambling sites will all just waste of time for the gambler.
I was thinking that if a gambling commission can issue licence to such gambling sites, they may have read through and agreed on the basics of T & C so why can't the same commission stand in that justifiable position in this case? Or it's assumed that they're working hand in hand all for profit gains and not respecting the rights of the gamblers.

It depends on what type of oppression that the casino enforces though, because most of the time, casinos do what they think is for the best for the business and as a result, they get crafty in screwing over their players especially those that they deem a threat to their because they want to make sure that profit will be the best thing for them.

Basically, what I'm saying is that they don't want you to win a lot of money and that they want to make sure that there's more losers coming out of the casinos rather than winners and so they do everything they can to make it seem like it's the gamblers are one that's offending them by having an in-store policy that would be respected by the authorities and side with them, and as far as I know, it's just consumer protection policies are the most likely only protection that gamblers have against oppressive casinos.

No that's usually just a lawyer thing. Hardly doubt there'd be an international group for it since there are different laws for every jurisdiction so it'd be difficult. Plus, in most casinos cases, they usually have a clause that lets them do whatever the f they want to users if they deem it a "security risk", so usually they'd be able to let through some of the weirdest calls. It would probably take a fight in court, which would at least take a minimum of 6 months maybe and a lot of money, so unless the money involved was high, probably wouldn't even be worth pushing through.

Not really. You can sue the casino in court or let the gambling commission that issues their license know about the problem.
In many countries you have a special office that handles company vs client issues, like when they don't respect warranty and such. You can always try that.
If you're looking for something like the SEC for stocks, I'm not aware of anything like that in my country that deals with gambling.

Yes this is basically all you can do. Before you go to use other casinos in the future be sure to check the terms of engagement and look at the conditions and legal information on their web page. I’m sure it’s bland and annoying but hey if it prevents these type of dealings in the future it’s worth it right

Yes Charles-Tim has made it clear and it all sum to the bottom of no single specific jurisdiction to justify such approach of a casino on behalf of a gambler being oppressed that the only way is get rich and face the casino with lawsuits with a personal lawyer. It really feels hopeless for vulnerable gamblers.
But I'm always surprise of what the gambling commissions are all there doing to regulate these ventures or maybe they're only cared about their tax collections from in between the casinos and the gamblerd.

What happens is that there are 2 scenarios:

First scenario: it is one in which a person is unable to withdraw money from the casino or made a deposit that was not reflected in his casino account or made a bet that was canceled while he got it right and he considers it unfair or he won in some game of roulette or dice and was unfairly annulled, but he sees that the casino continues to operate and other people are being paid and play normally, in this case despite the high costs of filing a legal case are not an option that this person cannot use, that person can use another way like:

- complaining in this forum in the scam accusation section

- complain to trustpilot

- complain at casino.guru

- complain on askgamblers

although these 4 options are not legal entities, they have great power to influence public opinion, so casinos that want to continue operating and think about growing in this market when someone posts a complaint on these 4 sites, then the casino solves the problem.

scenario 2: in this scenario the person complains that they are unable to make withdrawals, when they deposit money it doesn't reach the account, or they won but the casino canceled their win and then accused them of cheating and blocked their account and when that person gets ready to complain, then She sees that the casino also doesn't pay anyone and many people are having the same problem and the casino closed. In this scenario, people only have one option to complain, which is in the court of the country that gave the license to the casino and as I said before, legal battles have a high cost, so in this second scenario the person will soon give up.

By this I mean that the poor player has a chance of seeing his problem solved, just follow what I said in the first scenario, of course there are cases where the player doesn't see his problem solved

The fact that there is no legal jurisdiction to project the rights of average gamblers makes it clear that average gamblers shouldn't cross their limits when they are gambling because even if they manage to win something big, and then they aren't paid the funds, there is nothing much they can do about it. This also shows why it's important for gamblers to choose their casinos carefully because if you get scammed or are denied your funds, you can't do much to get your funds.

Even if it's a rich gambler, it depends on how much the casino owes them because it costs a lot of money to hire a lawyer and file a case against the casino and then do your best to win the case. It's only worth it if after winning the case, the person gets way more than what they might have spent on the case so far.

I think that the legal framework of each casino is so well developed and thought out that a gambler simply cannot be right in a dispute with this casino.

For example: if the slots in an online casino stopped at a winning combination, after which this gambling game hung up and reset the connection, then it will be difficult for the gambler to prove something in court if he did not record the entire game process on video.
And then I am sure that the casino will be able to prove that the gambler's computer was to blame.

I think there is no central authority that do this but various country where gambling is not banned have some form of government agency that regulate gambling activities. The function of that agency include setting procedure for conflict resolution and also ensuring no party is exploited. There may not be 100% efficient way of handling gambling related issues neither can there be one single method that solves all the possible cases that can arise in gambling, so it is usually a matter of discretion when handling such matters and that is if either of the party will be able to prove their case to be genuine.

All what you have said is nothing but the truth. The reasons why most people always have problem in some casinos is lack of doing proper research before registering . though it is hard to find a good casino but as you behave explained it is good to register a trusted and reliable one here in BTT, incase a matter arises it's easy to give them A bad rating than involving in some casinos you don't even have access to their customer care or the website expecially those scam casino. Just like a thread created here about a week ago about a gambler that won a huge amount and wasn't paid instead he was logged out of his account. If it was a reliable crypto casinos like one of those in this forum, the matter would have been reported and resolved easily.

You can  imagine that when won a little amount of money and Will have to spend higher expenses that's more than the amount you won. Considering it all I think the poor gambler will just let go.
To had learnt that there's is body to fight such cases out on behalf of the gambler as much the casino is an active and registered company in the platform is a good one to know.
And for that reason it'd be nice if we can speculate the casino sites to the awareness of the public off this forum. I don't know know it could be possible.

Yeah perfectly said. As a business owner/company owner and it's managers, these are likely the most smart people in any industry, mostly when it has to do with casino, the management are very smart, that's why they win every cases. There something most customers do these days out of laziness, when a customer registered on casino, the casino provides the terms and conditions in full details but it's funny how many gamblers both old and newbie gamblers don't care to read the terms and conditions before agreeing to it, that's why in most cases the casino wins every case with customers.

Over many years in gambling, I have never heard of such jurisdictions, but something tells me that casinos have protected themselves very well legally. This begins with the fact that we agree with all the points that are written before we are allowed to play there. And there are a lot of these points and there are obvious ones in which the casino will always be right even in situations that are obviously unfavorable for the player. I want to say that if we started playing, we took on a big risk, which means non-payment of winnings to us, no matter how absurd it may sound.

There are some platforms which helps to resolve these kind of dispute but I am afraid it's rock solid like a physical casino got used but online casino has to keep up their reputation so if they are willing to scam/deny the won rewards the words will spread like a wild fire and you can take a look at scam accusations section of bitcointalk for example where some of the issues we're resolved and casinos once refused later paid it back once it gets enough attention from the community.

And that's the very reason why you seldom see someone suing a casino, whether in offline or online platform. Hiring a lawyer alone would take some of your funds, not even considering the mental impact that you will go thru this process. So if the amount is not significant, most gamblers will just let go of their situation and move on. Also, it is hard to pursue a case if you have no enough money as well as hard evidences that the casino really screwed you.

Here in this forum, we have scam accusations thread to publish your complaint. I believe this is one advantage if you are playing on a casino which has active presence in this forum. If your complaint is indeed valid, you can really get actual help from their rep, forum users and resolve your solution in a fair manner.  

Well, I do not know what others think or have said, but personally, to give you a more appropriate answer, I will want to rephrase your question a bit, and would use the word "law" in place of jurisdiction, even though this two means almost the same thing, but many may misunderstand "jurisdiction" to mean a place, like a country or something.

So, personally, from my experience, the only means through which gamblers have been able to fight against the injustice of some casinos against their players in through the court of law, casinos (whether online or offline) can be sued to the court of law, and if at the end of the case, the gambler wins, the casino can be penalized, some cases have lead to the court revoking the license of the casino after having the casino pay huge fine to their victim for damages and other penalties.

But the issue is that, sueing a casino to court is not easy, you have to first and foremost, either have a lot of money, or have great connections, or better still, have both.

In such situations I believe we will have different cases since we have several different types of casinos, here most most of them are crypto casinos, So in cases involving decentralized casinos, crypto casinos, or Telegram platforms where the team behind them is not transparent or present, I think the situation becomes more complex. They remain anonymous that’s why it can be more challenging. However, many jurisdictions have regulations in place that still apply to online gambling including those involving cryptocurrencies.

Despite the ability to sue a casino, any type of casino, it is important to know that you may spend more money to complete your case against them, especially when the amount you lost to that casino isn’t that important or significant.

Please I don't understand this your proof of registration how it relates to op topic of discussion though I stand to be corrected but I want to tell you that it's like your posting a wrong information in a wrong place, what is discussed here has nothing to do with registered campaign proof, this is not bounty. I may suggest you read very well what the thread is discussing before replying post or creating post.