Topic: Is there a legal jurisdiction backing up gamblers against the casino oppression? - page 4. (Read 941 times)

Even if there was such a jurisdiction, why would casinos establish their business there and why would they accept gamblers coming from it? Casinos can easily avoid them by just stating on their TOS that any gambler from that jurisdiction is forbidden to gamble there and whatever protection that you thought you were getting gets nullified on the spot, as if you were to gamble at that casino anyway, then casinos have a perfectly valid reason to ban your account and do whatever it is stated on their TOS with your money.

There will be countries like the United States, in which the judicial system works good enough so nobody will be above the law, not even a casino. The abuse of casinos depends, mostly whether their Term of services are compatible with the regulation of the country and the legal jurisdiction where the casino headquater is located.
Though, there are online casinos which are located in very far away countries and still cater gamblers in countries in which they do not have any legal representation. There is where the problem mostly lies on.
I can personally see someone suing a casino in the United States and succeeding, but for that to be worth it to do the amount being dispute needs to be much higher than the legal fees one is supposed to leave for lawyers.

Yes, there are. I read some cases where the accusations from the gamblers against the casinos were judicialized at the court. Every countries have regulations which casinos have to fulfill in order to be allowed to operate there, and if they fail to follow one or another, they will face the justice, like every other individual living under the same regulations of that country. That is in theory, though, because we know for real things work differently, since money and influence plays a big role on the decisions of the court, as justice isn't unbiased everywhere.

In other cases, the casino may just find gaps on the laws and regulations in order to not be punished and escape from the court. With online virtual casinos it's a pretty common practice, being much harder for legal actions to have any effects over them. What you can do in order to prevent facing issues regards this matter is to always seek for reputable casinos where you can play. It won't work 100%, because even reputable casinos might scam their users at some point, but at least you decrease the chances considerably.

As far as I know, there are, but depending on which country or region you are in, of course that country has jurisdiction for online casinos that operate in areas that are legally important jurisdictions that apply.

jurisdictions can act and resolve cases that occur in the gambling industry, because jurisdictions have strong laws or regulations to act against online casinos that commit fraud or fraud.
The problem right now is about the jurisdiction itself, the strong one right now is Chicago, but the problem with online casinos right now, they are not there, they are located where the jurisdiction does not allow them to operate, but doing it illegally, that's every case that happens not in the Chicago area but in other countries, that's why we can't see users can't be resolved, in fact the users themselves do it.

There are basic ethics and rules about handling customers but these casino has their own terms that enables them to selectively inforce rules into customers and prevent them from participating or limiting their betting amount. There are cases of people going to the court and getting an order against the house but most of the people won't bother the trouble and just move on.
Most of the professional casinos tries their best not to have unpleasant encounters with the customers and look over most issues, things only get rough when they suspects cheating. There's no good casino that would ban customers just because they are winning.

Well this is new but am skeptical what if the casino is a decentralized casino although I hardly believe such even do exist again, would it be still be possible for that to occur. I have heard of people actually suing some casino but the results I have gotten has always been the casino coming out Victorious maybe due to some faulty documents or they use their terms and conditions as an upper hand against the client.

In most cases, you will not find any jurisdiction that backing up gamblers against scam casinos because the casinos aren't even regulated at all. They only regulated in small country that didn't have strict laws i.e. they obtain it in order to make their casino looks regulated in front of gamblers.

For example the recent case against Freebitco.in, why the victim didn't report to the court?

Yes, but that same case would be more difficult to happen in one of the casinos that advertise on the forum, which usually have a Curaçao license, if they are licensed. See, for example, what happens in this case:

[BC.Game] Maxbet strange nonsense

That wouldn't happen on Betfred, Betfair or any of the others, and if it happened, the authorities would intervene. The Curaçao authorities will be rarer to intervene and to begin with if you do not live in Curaçao, as almost no one does, you will have to file a claim internationally, which complicates and slows things down even more than in the case you have posted.

I don't think there is any protection for gamblers in my country. In society, it is believed that a person who gambles non-stop has made his own choice, and therefore he must decide the consequences of his choice himself. Legally, such a person is in his right mind, and when he loses money or takes out loans, according to the state, he does it of his own free will.
Although I think that the personality of the problematic gambler is very distorted, and he is no longer in his right mind.

Most of the complaints that I've seen were just passed on to the actual casino itself where the gambler has a problem of their credits, withdrawals, wins and so on, soforth. One way is to call their attention over all the communities that they own, or if that still doesn't give you the attention that you want, you may just go to the actual gambling communities where they're known like bitcointalk. You see that many legitimate complains have been credited and solved due to the fact that there have been some errors, glitches, etc. yet the actual and real ones that should be deserved by the gambler were given and credited to them.

Do not believe with all of the disputes because not everything that you read and see are genuine. For some reasons, they're just also calling out the casino but without proof and just want to put the blame to whoever that they can but first the casino. They are accusing the casino for being unlucky and that's very unethical for most of those complaints because it tends out that they're just making up stories. At least for those that I have seen, so don't be gullible with everything that you read because at most times, they can't just accept that they've been in a losing streak and the total losses that they have made is a serious and significant amount of their money.

I believe that there must be customers protection rights when casinos and bet companies are seeking for registrations in any country, but the the majority of gambling customers might not be aware of these laws that protects them. There is a gaming commission in my country and I believe that they're in charge of gambling regulations in Nigeria, and I hope that part of their job is to protect gamblers from gambling establishment's exploitations. Most times people don't have the patience to go through the rigors of reading through terms and conditions of casinos and bet companies, they'll agree and go straight to gambling, perhaps it's only when problems arises that they'll tell you what you agreed to. The important thing is for gamblers to look for casinos and bet companies that have reputation.

If the gambling site truly wants to cheat the person, there is nothing bad to take such case to court. In my country, even $100 can result to lawsuit. If a lawyer accepted the case, know that he will demand extra that the gambling site should pay his client for inconveniences. And if the matter goes to court and the gambler won, the gambling site will still pay the money the lawyer requested for and also pay more.

I am not sure if you even need to be rich for this, as this would probably never get to court. But depending how much winnings there are to claim, some lawyers would most likely take the case, because casinos don't want something like that go to court, as they would need to pay court fees as well. So just lawyers approaching them trough their regulatory oversight would probably scare them paying up. Especially if they knew they are clearly wrong.

But trying to sue for $1000 or something like that, most likely isn't worth the hassle and would be social media issue, if it's a clear case and that someone isn't afraid of getting sued themselves for defamation.

he should estimate the amount he'll need to spend for the legal battle. Hiring a good lawyer might be too expensive but there's always this agreement you can arrange with your lawyer like he'll only get the professional fee once they'll win the case. I'm sure a good lawyer will agree especially against a liquid casino and they have the right evidence to win the case.

it's quite complicated but there's always a chance to teach the scammers a lesson.


This is the easiest way, no expenses on our part but it will create big damage to the casino being accused if we have an evidence to win the case.

Everything is to each his own when it comes to filing a case against a casino that violated their rights and privileges as members of the casino platform, if the winning is huge the complainant should spend his own money to prosecute the casino and get his huge winning.

But if the winning is not that huge then Bitcointalk and the gambling directories are his best choices to file a complaint, there are two goals to let other gamblers know the behavior of the casino and for them to pressure the casino to address the issue, sometimes it works and sometimes the casino just ignore these complaints and move on.

The amount is huge it's worth fighting that amount whatever it takes, three years is worth it as the judge ruled that there would be an interest on the amount that was not released, the article did not mention if the casino would reimburse the winner on the money he spent paying for his lawyers.

That's usually the case whenever one party loses the case, I believe small or big amount the winner should fight for his right to claim the prize if he deserves that winning.

The legal remedy is quite costly for the average gambler so they turn to file an accusation here on Bitcointalk and request Askgambler.com to be a third party in resolving the case, but if you are rich then you can go to the court and the license issuer and sue this person, but you must have a very strong case or you will just waste your money.

Right now there is no legal jurisdiction for average gamblers, we just report the behavior of the site hoping that many will support and stop playing in that casino, resulting in a loss of revenue on the part of the casino.

Exactly, I've learnt something new with your efforts of contributes. Since it's been obvious that there's no such jurisdiction, gambling on reputable casinos is the only way to avoid such scenarios.
Actually the casino hasn't oppressed be before but I've just been thinking why doesn't a jurisdiction rise against the gambling sites which gamblers usually comes to the public mostly social medias in begging for help because the casino or gambling sites they made huge amount of bet logs them out from their accounts or they refuses to pay them.

Personally I don’t think there is an actual justification for any gambling case but just as @ Charles-Tim already pointed out, the best thing to do if you think a casino isn’t doing the right thing is to consult the legal practitioners that’s if you can afford one for legal advice but incase you can’t afford one, it’s always best that you sort of the best and well regulated as well as well reputable casinos out there to play with rather than jumping on every platform you see out there.

There have been several cases where gamblers sue casinos to court and even win cases but I’m sure the gambler must have spent a fortune and for the common gambler, most cases like that I left unresolved but when there are concrete evidence, then you can bring them to groups and forums like this.

Though the issue about casinos refusing to pay gamblers after a claim of violation of terms and conditions has always been a big challenge to gamblers all around the world, and as such, for me, it's only a well known casino with a physical headquarter that can be charged to court for trial, of which you are likely to either win or lose, depending on how you are able to convince the court with proven facts, whereas, if the casino is not well known or has a physical headquarter, the chances of you getting justice is slim. Which Is why I always advise people to gamble on only well known casinos.
Moreover, Askgambler.com has always been a good site that help gamblers recover their funds from reputable casinos. So you could give it a try