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It's really hard for to live without this forum, I just like it, I love members of Bitcointalk and the vibe they carry.
Things change but people in blockchain industry will not forget Bitcoin forum. This forum might continue to lively operate or stop its operation but whatever happens to this forum in future, it will be considered as a museum of Blockchain industry and Bitcoin enthusiasts. Either a live museum or historic museum, it will be marked in Bitcoin history.

I love this forum and don't think it will stop any time in future. Bitcoin is here with us and Bitcoin talk for is here with us too.
hero member
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I don't want to correlate this forum's comedown with the mixer ban, even though I've thought of it and it's likely one major factor, but what's the current picture of Bitcointalk according to you? To me, it's declining in genuine interest.

We're dealing with uninteresting topics. The "hottest" topic of discussion in the last months is Ordinals, followed by ETFs, and then an endless list of speculation-related threads, which were always a "thing" in the past, but gosh, that just seems like our sole concern nowadays.

Now, to that, add that we've lost valuable members, some of which were intellectually influential, and you have an Internet board filled with mostly crap. What's the problem?
We lost some amazing forum members who had a big positive impact and influence on this forum. Their loss will definitely affect this forum and the nostalgia will only make our feelings worse. My personal opinion is that our early, young ages are always good and we always think about that part of the past and call those moments golden times.

This forum is not getting worse but things change. During the early years, the attention was on the development of good crypto products, but now things have changed. NFTs, Ordinals, Runes, Memecoins, these are mainstream today. Is it bad? I personally think that yes, they are bad because I value innovation and development over stupidity but this forum and members should remain in touch with what's mainstream today.

It's really hard for to live without this forum, I just like it, I love members of Bitcointalk and the vibe they carry.
hero member
Activity: 3052
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For me, I don't really think its getting worse and worse like you rightly pointed out, instead it has actually done me good than harm, because it's has overtime helped me in terms of knowledge expansion and equally making me get involve in a serious discussion like this.

So by an large,I think it's not really getting "worse" like you think
No offense, but how you can say such things when you been on forum just for one week as your account was registered just on 21st  of May. Most likely you don't know how forum looked and how things were going here 1, 2 or 5 years ago, you only see current situation which is quite different than we had in past. Well, unless it's not your first account here.
That’s why this forum is filled with made up stories and speculations because of these newbies who jump to conclusion even without having seeing or experienced the real events just to ride with the discussion. Although not all but I observed a lot of them have resort doing like this.

However, this forum only gets worse if majority of the newbies do not come here to acquire learning and establish concrete knowledge, but focus more on how to be profitable even at an early time without even being aware on the do’s  and dont’s in the forum.
newbie
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THIS GUY REALLY THINKS IM TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER GAMBLING BOARD.
NO. GAMING =/= GAMBLING.
JESUS CHRIST.

I meant gaming like CS:GO, League of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc...

You wanna know what's wrong with this place? It's been poisoned and consumed by gambling advertising. It's one of the largest sources of spam, nonsensical posts, and posts that feel like people are just shouting into the air instead of actually contributing to a goddamn fucking conversation.

It's so frustrating.
hero member
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Hello my good friends.

Allow me to share my point of view on this topic.

You may (or may not) have noticed that I am writing a lot less than I used to.

This forum felt like a home to me, when I was struggling with understanding Bitcoin and how it works. Of course, I only consider myself to be a little more educated than I was when I joined the forum, but there is still lot to learn.

I have been a member in signature campaingns, I have developed some tools - just for extra knowledge - and I have always been interested in Bitcoin and almost nothing else.

I think that unfortunately this forum is occupied by:

1. people submiting poor answers just to earn some sats from signature campaigns.
2. people who try to scam, or promote fishing websites.
3. people who insult, swear and post death threats.
4. people who should moderate but they don't moderate at all!
5. people who are only interested in posting "will bitcoin reach 1 billion dollars per coin?" or even worse "will this shitcoin reach 1 quantillion dollars per token?".

Of course, there are some exceptions. There are some people who I have really been proud of exchanging ideas with. I will not name anyone, but of course, you all know who the valuable members are in this jungle.

I am not leaving the forum, I love it. But, I think it's simply because I am accustomed to loving it...

Don't forget: keep fighting the good fight! I will be here, for anyone who is genuinely interested in Bitcoin.
sr. member
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For me, I don't really think its getting worse and worse like you rightly pointed out, instead it has actually done me good than harm, because it's has overtime helped me in terms of knowledge expansion and equally making me get involve in a serious discussion like this.

So by an large,I think it's not really getting "worse" like you think

Coming from some who hasn't stayed too long here in the Forum it isn't get worse but for the OP who has enough experience, who have come in contact with some many legends (if mentioned you don't know of) who made the Forum what it is today (with their contributions) is saying the Forum isn't how it used to be, I think you should take it from him because you're just coming (base on when you registered, unless you have another account) and if the OP mention most of the event that took place during his time and how the Forum was back then I don't think you'd disagree with him. Fine is your opinion but coming from a member who started right from 2020 I think he knows what he's talking about, I agree with him and if you've observed many members are leaving the Forum due to one challenges or the other, let's just say change is taking place.
sr. member
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Hmm that's true, Boss!
This forum has not been the same as before, i.e., after me. We can clearly see that the unique status of the forum is no longer there and is gradually declining. Big-ranking members used to play a consistent role in the discussion of the topic, that is, they were active, but now the big-ranking members are not active in the same way on the forum due to staff carelessness, even though we lost some members and the rest Yes, they remain inactive due to some restrictions policy of the forum due to which they are not part of the members discussions and have not been able to attract others.
 
If i tell you the truth, there were demands from those who were the merit source that we should increase the merit allocation, but in fact, we did not get any response from Tymos, although these members are the most contributors to the forum and these are the members who are the members of the forum. They have created hope to remain active but now such a time has passed that these people (members) are not even given a replay. So if this lack of care continues, many more users may be away from this forum either in the form of being unactive or in the form of leaving the forum.
hero member
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For me, I don't really think its getting worse and worse like you rightly pointed out, instead it has actually done me good than harm, because it's has overtime helped me in terms of knowledge expansion and equally making me get involve in a serious discussion like this.

So by an large,I think it's not really getting "worse" like you think
No offense, but how you can say such things when you been on forum just for one week as your account was registered just on 21st  of May. Most likely you don't know how forum looked and how things were going here 1, 2 or 5 years ago, you only see current situation which is quite different than we had in past. Well, unless it's not your first account here.
That is to clearly tell you that it is an alt account, how can a user who register for May 21st participating with old members in a thread like this without fear. That is too obvious. When I registered in the forum to make comments in the reputation, and Meta boards were problem to me. Because I always believed that those are the Senate House in the forum and even if I came I don't know anything to discuss so I was always clear for these boards.

Well that is not withstanding. Yes the forum is getting slow these days and most after the ban of mixers and I also noticed some of the unnecessary dramas and many people have no campaign to hang out so for them it is better for them find physical job and do. And most of them don't like promoting casinos. And the exchange campaigns were just two or three. And they are not inside.
legendary
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For me, I don't really think its getting worse and worse like you rightly pointed out, instead it has actually done me good than harm, because it's has overtime helped me in terms of knowledge expansion and equally making me get involve in a serious discussion like this.

So by an large,I think it's not really getting "worse" like you think
No offense, but how you can say such things when you been on forum just for one week as your account was registered just on 21st  of May. Most likely you don't know how forum looked and how things were going here 1, 2 or 5 years ago, you only see current situation which is quite different than we had in past. Well, unless it's not your first account here.
hero member
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The only member that we lost recently is o_e_l_e_o, or who else?

Recently, yes, but there have been some very colorful members of the forum who've left in the past few years, members who made this place much less dull than it has been as of late.  Lauda, TMAN, TECSHARE, Vod (sort of), and some of the chronic trolls like cryptohunter even.  Right now when I look at new threads I don't see a hell of a lot of interesting ones--although that might be because I have a taste for juicy drama.

Besides that, I'd say the quality of the average post has remained more or less the same, i.e., people are making mediocre posts for whatever signature campaign they're in, making very general comments that don't add much to the threads they're in, and either displaying an utter lack of proficiency in writing or generally being dull and uninteresting.  So yeah, I'd say bitcointalk is asymptotically approaching, albeit very very slowly, what cryptotalk.org was when Yobit started that abomination of a forum a few years ago.

OK, that last sentence is too harsh but I've got a toothache and am ready to strangle the internet.

Most dramas always lose fun as time creeps by. Gradually have read some old dramas in the forum that actually intrigued me, regarding the change of the forum admin and cases where strangers seriously claimed to be Satoshi and demands ownership of the forums. Those threads will hardly show up, again, in the forum, due to the change in focus. Lots of users have other purposes behind their membership here other than becoming good forum members. Therefore limiting their post context.

Creating valuable threads reduces as the focus of members goes mainly to hit signature quota. Writing requires lots of work, especially for non-natives, which I'm a part of, so the interesting quality writing skills that actually lifts the fun or argument in a thread would be lacking.Those dramas if you may say, kept some members in the forum. Because the mentioned members above seemed to have left when all the troubles causing the drama got resolved. The forum is a kind of calm and lots of people who began during the early days may not be comfortable around here anymore. Nothing interests them well enough to stay in the forum, I guess.
newbie
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For me, I don't really think its getting worse and worse like you rightly pointed out, instead it has actually done me good than harm, because it's has overtime helped me in terms of knowledge expansion and equally making me get involve in a serious discussion like this.

So by an large,I think it's not really getting "worse" like you think
sr. member
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We can’t hold those people if they want to leave the forum and quit. There are still a lot of reputable members left that can contribute to the welfare of the forum. However, I also believe that the current problem is the lack of interest of learning new updates and news about cryptocurrency. It should be a necessity for all members in the forum to acquire knowledge every now and then and bring it into the forum since we all know learning should be taken everyday and not just when its only needed to, most especially that we are trying to retain the interest of the old and new members here, then let’s be responsible enough to do our part as a member in order to make this forum more alive and genuinely interesting.
You literally just said what I've said, so I'm right, that it's because of the lack of interest that's causing this problem, I do agree that we can't held people hostage for long if they want to quit but what part of my post did I say that we should hold them up because I don't see it being mentioned. Now you're forcing people to bring something to the table, just like leaving the forum, you really can't force other users here to be doing that, if they don't want to do it, they will not do it.
legendary
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The only member that we lost recently is o_e_l_e_o, or who else?

Recently, yes, but there have been some very colorful members of the forum who've left in the past few years, members who made this place much less dull than it has been as of late.  Lauda, TMAN, TECSHARE, Vod (sort of), and some of the chronic trolls like cryptohunter even.  Right now when I look at new threads I don't see a hell of a lot of interesting ones--although that might be because I have a taste for juicy drama.

Besides that, I'd say the quality of the average post has remained more or less the same, i.e., people are making mediocre posts for whatever signature campaign they're in, making very general comments that don't add much to the threads they're in, and either displaying an utter lack of proficiency in writing or generally being dull and uninteresting.  So yeah, I'd say bitcointalk is asymptotically approaching, albeit very very slowly, what cryptotalk.org was when Yobit started that abomination of a forum a few years ago.

OK, that last sentence is too harsh but I've got a toothache and am ready to strangle the internet.
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Every trending Bitcoin discussion and development seems to be on X these days, I remember searching for the current attack on non-custodial and privacy by the US government on the Bitcoin discussion board and I didn't find anything related but took me only a few seconds to get all the info I needed on X and Reddit.

I am on mobile and bitcointalk is the last place in my head if i want to post a news or updates of something. If it is not because of the incentive im not even sure i will visit this forum regularly. Talk about stone age UI and the hassle of always need to zoom if i want to click something!
hero member
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You know the difference is, in the past, there was no signature campaign and people wrote short posts, funny ones and used forum like a chit chat place. They post naturally, did not post for money and it's different than spamming nowadays because of money incentives.
That is a good observation there. Could also be that without any motivation to post, only those with pure interest in Bitcoin communicated and that increased the general conversations we had here.

There were good posts then and there are now, but there is a lot of spam that almost drowns out the better discussions.

- Jay -
Yes, that’s actually happening in the forum. Gone are the days where members are just having a genuine discussion where you can’t sense any pretentious members just to hunt merits while posting. Now, the whole forum is motivated by merits and incentives. And end up seeing a lot of spams that made the forum looks not informative and uneducative at all.
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Now, to that, add that we've lost valuable members, some of which were intellectually influential, and you have an Internet board filled with mostly crap. What's the problem?
The only member that we lost recently is o_e_l_e_o, or who else? But I noticed that some members are not active like before on technical boards. Some people still see this forum educative and interesting. If mixers were not banned on this forum, many people will still later not post again. Be it as it may be now, there will surely be changes. Many people that were here in 2012 were not here in 2018 when Leo joined this forum. Many of us posting today also may no more be here in the next 5 to 10 years.
Maybe those who have made large contributions to the forum feel that they no longer have the enthusiasm or purpose of making posts on the forum since mixers were banned on this forum cmiiw

I see other forums accepting mixer campaigns but that is not enough to attract more visitors there, so in my opinion this forum is actually still the main destination for those who want to discuss and benefit from bitcoin and altcoins

but I doubt that in the next 5 to 10 years this forum will be quiet, from the data on the number of visitors to this forum it can actually be said to be still stable in the last few years and there are still paid BTC campaigns here, so this forum will still be busy
hero member
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It doesn't seem to me that the forum is any worse than it was a few years ago

Couldn't agree more. The forum had started to become a place for shitposters to post nonsense and earn a lot of money for it when bounty campaigns were at their peak, accepting all rank accounts and paying them tokens for making nonsensical posts all around the forum. The merit system came as a savior and we have seen the forum changing for good since then. Of course, there is no existence of perfection in anything in this world, but it's way better than before if you ask me.

Some sections of the forum such as Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion were highly spammed during those times, you wouldn't even blink you eyes and there would be 2 pages of posts in a newly created thread in any of the two sections I've mentioned, that's how bad the situation had become.
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It doesn't seem to me that the forum is any worse than it was a few years ago - although we have to admit that we lost some members who were very important for the forum (regardless of whether someone liked them or not). Perhaps I could describe it in a way that everyone can imagine - so let's say you have your favorite dish that you have been eating for years, but then over time you notice that the dish is no longer the same, but you cannot say with certainty what the problem actually is.

I think that people are what make a forum good or bad, and a forum without some people is simply like your favorite dish without a few key spices. Of course, some people think that sig campaigns are to blame for everything, but if someone left because he was not satisfied with the profit, then we shouldn't feel sorry for him too much.
Some highly reputable members may have leave but that’s the reality, not all people will stay and that’s everyone’s freedom. But with all those lost members, we also welcome new and highly motivated newbies that could hopefully turn into incredible posters in the future, so let’s not worry about that too much.

The forum may not be everyone’s favorite these days due to uninteresting and low valued posts, but for me, I don’t see it that way. Let’s just say there’s always a time to grow for everyone here, they can be newbies and inexperienced at first, but with profound interest to achieve consistent learning, in no time we can see everyone here becomes an asset to make the forum more educative and genuinely interactive.
legendary
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People are becoming more entrenched in their worldview.  There was a time, when presented with compelling evidence, reasonable people could change their mind.  But nowadays that's becoming an increasingly rare trait.
I don't think this is true. Have you considered that it might be the media portraying small minorities in this way? Drama sells, as said, and producing drama has become almost a science in itself. Unless you're talking out of experience from real life.

You know the difference is, in the past, there was no signature campaign and people wrote short posts, funny ones and used forum like a chit chat place.
Unpopular opinion: Spam was proportionally greater before signature campaigns. Just visit a Bitcoin Discussion from 2013, and tell me if what you see is constructive.

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Not sure that's sarcasm, or you're serious. Based on your post history, I think you're being sarcastic here.
legendary
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You know the difference is, in the past, there was no signature campaign and people wrote short posts, funny ones and used forum like a chit chat place. They post naturally, did not post for money and it's different than spamming nowadays because of money incentives.
That is a good observation there. Could also be that without any motivation to post, only those with pure interest in Bitcoin communicated and that increased the general conversations we had here.

There were good posts then and there are now, but there is a lot of spam that almost drowns out the better discussions.

- Jay -
Also the newness of the Bitcoin technology was a good reason for quality conversations in the past. Barely knowing how to send and receive bitcoin was a great achievement then. I could make a short post on my experience trying to send bitcoin to my dad in Canada. This would make an interesting post then because the post was birthed out of real life experience.

But these days, a noob could show up from nowhere and make 5 paragraphs post describing how he sent bitcoin to his dad in Canada while in real life he/she doesn't own a fraction of bitcoin.
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