Topic: Is this forum getting worse and worse? - page 4. (Read 2174 times)

I am yet to see a compelling evidence that shows moon landing really happened but people still believe it happened, more than once. Crazy how brainwashed people can become when you think about it.

Imagine, they sent, alive people, to the ^fuckingmoon and brought them back, alive. And millions of people believe, that.

You would expect a healthy person to ask, "why don't they do it now?" But they never do.

Bots, lots of bots. I blame javascript.

I don't think that changed. What changed, is the attention given to the people you call brainwashed. Example: the flat earth guys. Everyone knows it started as a joke (after all, I've been told the earth is a cube), but they're still getting attention. Unfortunately, as always, drama sells.

 I would say the ban on mixers also had an effect on the forum and gradually,  the quality is also diminishing. Just as the Op observed, this place used to be busy, like there was a competition for good posts being and it was rare to see repetitive posts being made except in the gambling section. Back then when I got registered, about two years ago, even when a newbie makes a post, you'd notice they took time and effort into making such posts and while it may not be hundred percent perfect, you'd   notice made concerted efforts to pass knowledge across and not what we see now.
 Merits for me where like a reward for a carefully articulated work and not a means to rank up but it's not the case these days.
Well, no need to cry over spilled milk because what we are experiencing here is something that happen everywhere. As time goes, a thing loses its value and if nothing is done to rectify the issue or bring back those things that once gave it it's allure, it will be forgotten or be living in it's past glory but the trick question right now is what can be done to restore the forum back to where we knew it?

I mean honestly maybe banning the mixers had a lot to do with it, but I think that shouldn't be considered the full reason for your allegations that the bitcoin talk forum is getting worse and worse. If anything this forum just offboarded a lot of unwanted attention should government authorities try to come after btalk for allowing it. Was that a breach of freedom & of privacy to lose this ability on the forum? Well, yes. But you can't blame the powers that be for making the decision that they made.

I think that this forum could honestly be a lot better by just adding a few features. Like for example the ability to mention someone like with an @ and their username and for that to give that user a notification. The reason that these posts are all so much and so compiling is because there is no differentiator like that unless you have like a telegram bot to help you but even so you have to keep track of which posts you're being referenced in and its just a lot of work lol... am I the only one who feels this way? There are just some really super basic things that could probably easily be implemented.

That is a good observation there. Could also be that without any motivation to post, only those with pure interest in Bitcoin communicated and that increased the general conversations we had here.

There were good posts then and there are now, but there is a lot of spam that almost drowns out the better discussions.

- Jay -

I am not a forum og and I was not here in early years but sometimes, I look at very old threads and see that people did not actually make quality posts in early years.

You know the difference is, in the past, there was no signature campaign and people wrote short posts, funny ones and used forum like a chit chat place. They post naturally, did not post for money and it's different than spamming nowadays because of money incentives.

Calling forum early users and their short, funny posts as spammers or not, people will argue but I don't consider them as spammers.

theymos wrote that forum ogs mean a lot for this forum, for Bitcoin because they belong to history with unmeasurable contributions as early adopters.

I was thinking the other day of how we look at times past and named different eras by what was predominant during that time, what would we be known for in the next 200-300 years? The scientific era? I think not, posterity may not think us so smart and the future is always better so whatever they have then would look to them like what horses do to the current automobile system. And what would they think of our collective ideologies?

Back to the topic, the forum for me is the same as it has been since I joined. For earlier users who may have formed a very good bond with the great posters of that time, they will miss them more and that will give the impression that the quality has dropped here. Everything else will look repeated and tiring.

- Jay -

It doesn't seem to me that the forum is any worse than it was a few years ago - although we have to admit that we lost some members who were very important for the forum (regardless of whether someone liked them or not). Perhaps I could describe it in a way that everyone can imagine - so let's say you have your favorite dish that you have been eating for years, but then over time you notice that the dish is no longer the same, but you cannot say with certainty what the problem actually is.

I think that people are what make a forum good or bad, and a forum without some people is simply like your favorite dish without a few key spices. Of course, some people think that sig campaigns are to blame for everything, but if someone left because he was not satisfied with the profit, then we shouldn't feel sorry for him too much.

People are becoming more entrenched in their worldview.  There was a time, when presented with compelling evidence, reasonable people could change their mind.  But nowadays that's becoming an increasingly rare trait.  Now people just get defensive or hostile when presented with anything that contradicts their beliefs.  Populism frequently overrides truth and it's depressing. 

What are your observations? From my perspective, human nature remains more or less the same. The tremendous growth we are seeing in AI might signal the beginning of a brand new epoch, but that essentially sums up the overall difference with the previous generation. Humans remain the same, with all their weaknesses.

The internet as a whole is getting worse.  Human nature is getting worse.  It's difficult to have meaningful discussions these days because people cling to 'alternative facts' and just want to live in a dream world.  You certainly could have discussions with people who are brainwashed, but it's generally an exercise in futility.  Along with the issue of topics getting stale and repeating subjects I've already spoken about a dozen times, I find the main reason I'm posting less is because I now mostly put people on ignore when it's clear there's no reasoning with them.

We sadly live in a world where a significant proportion of the population simply aren't worth wasting your time talking to.

Some members who were here only for high paying signature campaigns might have left and this leads to less activity. But the effect will be temporary. In the long run, it will be good for the forum only because such members will not be genuinely concerned with the growth of the forum. Now , we have more members who are here for discussions and genuine information related to crypto.

We can’t hold those people if they want to leave the forum and quit. There are still a lot of reputable members left that can contribute to the welfare of the forum. However, I also believe that the current problem is the lack of interest of learning new updates and news about cryptocurrency. It should be a necessity for all members in the forum to acquire knowledge every now and then and bring it into the forum since we all know learning should be taken everyday and not just when its only needed to, most especially that we are trying to retain the interest of the old and new members here, then let’s be responsible enough to do our part as a member in order to make this forum more alive and genuinely interesting.

You are probably not used to mobile and that is why you think this is the case, people who are used to their mobile phones would type faster on mobile that on desktop. Now to the quality of posts, it surely does not depend on the device you use, but on what you have to say and contribute.

I do not use laptop to type until my final year project in university. I used it for watching movies. I typed faster that time but slower compared to phone that I have been using since many years ago for chatting. The laptop got damaged before I registered an account on this forum. Presently, I have a mid range laptop which is very responsive but I still find it easier to type on phone while on this forum.

There are some browsers that makes it look like you are on laptop but you have to bold the posts and move the posts left and right but which I did not notice that I was doing so until I saw some people posted that this forum is not mobile friendly. I can not spend 30 minutes on laptop on this forum without my eyes been stressed already but my phone can make me last several hours without any effect even without dark mode and eye care. It is also a mid range phone but with a better AMOLED display. Posting is difficult for me on laptop probably because I was not used to it.

Mobile phone users we more, especially in developing countries. But what I think more about this is that more people are able to access this forum because of mobile phones just as more people have been able to access bitcoin, other coins and even gambling sites because of mobile phone. Mobile phones makes Internet activities to increase, including this forum as it makes more people to join. The more people are joining this forum, the more spam and low quality posts that we would see but there would still be some good posters.

This forum has been mobile friendly for me right from day one that I joined.

yeah this is a dinosaur, but. who would go to see a fucking T-Rex feast on some pigs or steer at a Zoo.


I would love to that T-Rex in action. (note well aware of Jurassic Park and it other movies)

I never liked "mobile" versions. This is a forum, most people on mobile write terrible short post (see what I did there?). You need a decent keyboard to save a lot of time posting. So I expect less quality posts if this forum becomes more mobile friendly.
A chatbox would be the opposite of a forum: chats usually aren't archived.

Bitcointalk is not a darknet website, so you do not have to introduce people to the forum before the find it themselves, people can find the forum themselves if they browse about BTC and anything crypto related. That aside, new users joining the forum isn't a problem in my honest opinion.
I disagree, this forum isn't a threat to the government, and mixers and CoinJoin has not been declared illegal yet. However, i understand why Theymos did what he had to do, the constant attacks against privacy solutions was becoming worrying, and the forum may have been forced to provide any kind of info on some of its users in the future if any of them ever became a target, or maybe even the admin themselves could be the target and get subpoenaed.

Probably the lack of people reading crypto news and stories that really matters is the big problem, most of the people that post topics that don't matter are usually newbies that doesn't really know any better and that they're just trying to get in. I guess it's a matter of us doing what needs to be done so we can keep the fresh content coming in, it's a really good thing that this thing has been pointed out, it's making sure that people are aware and hopefully, they will add some more substance to the discussion. Another thing that I'd like to point out is that the more the forum is introduced to more people then the more likely it is that we will get more shitposters but that's not a sure thing to happen.

Theymos didn't just wake up one morning to ban Mixer from this forum; it was an important decision he had to take to save this forum from falling since this forum was a threat to the government because of Mixer being promoted here. The government was against mixers, and it would be a bad thing if this forum kept promoting anything that had to do with mixers. So for the government not to come for this forum, Theymos had to ban mixers from this forum. Anyone who is in Thymos's position will not want this great forum to fall under his watch. I think the decision Theymos took against Mixer was one of the best decisions to protect this forum from the authorities. How will you feel if we cannot have access to this forum just because Mixer is being promoted here? Then we will be saying that Theymos should have banned Mixer long ago so that this forum will not be blocked or attacked by the government.