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I'm not into a religious matter because we have different believes on it but most of the time people linkages the gambling as related into evil because of its effect again at the end of the day it's people's choice what they will do with their life if they want to get addicted or being a casual player of gambling so no related into religious matter.
Gambling can form to a person an negativity power so people thinks gambling are the root of it but no it's the person who made the decision.

Yeah right, don't be too naive on something if it's because of your own mistakes in making decisions, honestly what kind of person is gambling why he hates it so much because he lost a lot of money in gambling, it's because they are looking for money in gambling, spending money that he can't lose, which causes him to lose more money because of chasing defeat, gambling may be for people who are not able to control themselves will be very detrimental because he will be controlled by the ambition to win himself which eats more money in gambling to feel that gambling is very bad for him.
It's about yourself, why blame the outsiders that they don't tell us to push the button and gamble, they just offer fun, and if you're lucky you'll get a reward, simple as that.

Gamblers always want to blame something for their reckless gambling life, instead of accepting the fact that they were gambling to make profit and that made them to keep on chasing their losses and losing over and over again. It is when they gave realized that it is impossible for them to win back their losses and for that reason, they will quit gambling because they never wanted to gamble for fun but for money.

Such people will always come up with excuses to make you feel that they were not chasing their losses but was gambling responsible. A responsible gamble will know that he will run at loss and doesn't care. This is why he only gamble with little amount of money that is nothing to him.

That is the worst behavior of humans not just gamblers, they always blame the outside for their own mistakes, and they deny themselves that they are doing wrong, and that's what makes everything look guilty in the eyes of people like that, I think there are not a few people who do that, and most of them hate other than talking about religion because they don't know how they limit themselves to something that can damage themselves, even like eating, drinking and others without knowing how much the body can accept then that person will quickly enter the pit of disease, this is the same as in gambling in my opinion.

I know the losses that make them depressed, but my annoyance is why they don't read themselves, because all of that happened because of their mistakes in gambling, gambling responsibly will be very difficult for people like that.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

The house edge favours the casino in the long run, this is an open fact and there are no second thoughts on it. But still people gamble, why ? Because despite all the facts, there are chances that the gamblers will win too and they win.

The games are probably fair and its a matter of probability and demons have no roles in all this Cheesy

This should not be considered as it is not due to supernatural forces but rather the mathematical principles behind these games.
It's common for people who have had negative experiences with gambling to develop strong opinions against it. We cannot change the mind of people but we should not believe in everyone's point of view. Its better to use common sense and believe only in things that seems logically true.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on May 30, 2024, 10:41:40 AM

Gamblers always want to blame something for their reckless gambling life, instead of accepting the fact that they were gambling to make profit and that made them to keep on chasing their losses and losing over and over again. It is when they gave realized that it is impossible for them to win back their losses and for that reason, they will quit gambling because they never wanted to gamble for fun but for money.

It’s normal reaction to blame something after losing because it channels your inner negative feelings towards the things that you are blaming. Most important is you don’t take it personally and move on after the blaming part. I usually do this when lose, I blame my luck when I lose that’s why I can easily accept my fate.

Realization is easy to achieve if you don’t have any burden on your chest when loss since it’s very hard to accept it immediately if the loss is still fresh.

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Such people will always come up with excuses to make you feel that they were not chasing their losses but was gambling responsible. A responsible gamble will know that he will run at loss and doesn't care. This is why he only gamble with little amount of money that is nothing to him.

Responsible gambler is not all about the size of your bankroll. It’s about knowing your limit and just like what you said, know when you will need to stop.

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Quote from: bangjoe on May 30, 2024, 10:32:19 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on May 30, 2024, 07:27:18 AM

I'm not into a religious matter because we have different believes on it but most of the time people linkages the gambling as related into evil because of its effect again at the end of the day it's people's choice what they will do with their life if they want to get addicted or being a casual player of gambling so no related into religious matter.
Gambling can form to a person an negativity power so people thinks gambling are the root of it but no it's the person who made the decision.

Yeah right, don't be too naive on something if it's because of your own mistakes in making decisions, honestly what kind of person is gambling why he hates it so much because he lost a lot of money in gambling, it's because they are looking for money in gambling, spending money that he can't lose, which causes him to lose more money because of chasing defeat, gambling may be for people who are not able to control themselves will be very detrimental because he will be controlled by the ambition to win himself which eats more money in gambling to feel that gambling is very bad for him.
It's about yourself, why blame the outsiders that they don't tell us to push the button and gamble, they just offer fun, and if you're lucky you'll get a reward, simple as that.

Gamblers always want to blame something for their reckless gambling life, instead of accepting the fact that they were gambling to make profit and that made them to keep on chasing their losses and losing over and over again. It is when they gave realized that it is impossible for them to win back their losses and for that reason, they will quit gambling because they never wanted to gamble for fun but for money.

Such people will always come up with excuses to make you feel that they were not chasing their losses but was gambling responsible. A responsible gamble will know that he will run at loss and doesn't care. This is why he only gamble with little amount of money that is nothing to him.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 30, 2024, 07:27:18 AM

I'm not into a religious matter because we have different believes on it but most of the time people linkages the gambling as related into evil because of its effect again at the end of the day it's people's choice what they will do with their life if they want to get addicted or being a casual player of gambling so no related into religious matter.
Gambling can form to a person an negativity power so people thinks gambling are the root of it but no it's the person who made the decision.

Yeah right, don't be too naive on something if it's because of your own mistakes in making decisions, honestly what kind of person is gambling why he hates it so much because he lost a lot of money in gambling, it's because they are looking for money in gambling, spending money that he can't lose, which causes him to lose more money because of chasing defeat, gambling may be for people who are not able to control themselves will be very detrimental because he will be controlled by the ambition to win himself which eats more money in gambling to feel that gambling is very bad for him.
It's about yourself, why blame the outsiders that they don't tell us to push the button and gamble, they just offer fun, and if you're lucky you'll get a reward, simple as that.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

His experience may have been very real to him, and although it may sound absurd to you, it is important to realize that each person has a different way of understanding and dealing with their bad experiences. Even though the guy has strong views and they may sound strange to you, he may just be trying to help in a way he thinks is right. In the meantime, it is important for you to remain rational and not be too swayed by extreme views, but still respect any concerns he may raise regarding the risks of gambling.

We have different views about gambling. Maybe that person have bad experience from gambling so he say like that. But for those who can use gambling as an entertainment will not say like him because they can treat gambling as well and they has limits when they playing gambling. They will not breaks their limits because of chasing the wins because they knows that will gives them much chance to wins. They'd rather to choose playing gambling moderately using the money they can afford to lose and always avoids the big lose by limiting their money in gambling. That's why if we wants to playing gambling, we should cares about our money and time so we don't spends too much money and not too long playing gambling to prevents the lose not to becomes bigger.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

His experience may have been very real to him, and although it may sound absurd to you, it is important to realize that each person has a different way of understanding and dealing with their bad experiences. Even though the guy has strong views and they may sound strange to you, he may just be trying to help in a way he thinks is right. In the meantime, it is important for you to remain rational and not be too swayed by extreme views, but still respect any concerns he may raise regarding the risks of gambling.

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I'm not into a religious matter because we have different believes on it but most of the time people linkages the gambling as related into evil because of its effect again at the end of the day it's people's choice what they will do with their life if they want to get addicted or being a casual player of gambling so no related into religious matter.
Gambling can form to a person an negativity power so people thinks gambling are the root of it but no it's the person who made the decision.

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To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

I think it's demons because Christianity said God banished many angels that was taking the side of Lucifer when he chased them away from heaven if we are believing the stories in the bible. Superstitious are real in gambling and sports, some players have their own superstitious that they believe in and it works for them. Christiano Ronaldo said he does not like touching trophy before playing in the competition and it works for him because he has won many trophies while others in spite of if they touch or kissed the trophy they still can win it. Messi in the 2022 world cup touched and kissed the world cup trophy before playing in the competition and he still won it but Ronaldo that did not do that still did not win it therefore it can work for some people while it would not work for others. Gambling is mostly about luck therefore superstition can be used when gambling and you win.

You should back your point with proof or link, about Messi and Ronaldo touching Cup or not. And i disagree Messi kissing the world cup before match, that's a lie. It cannot happen, only few are selected to touch the world cup after a win not before it.

Superstitious believe are relevant to those who believe in such, for me it's nonsense. Beliefs are what one uphold to be true within his own judgement, God himself gave us freedom and choice that's why we can do anything at all.

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Quote from: shivansps on May 29, 2024, 03:36:57 PM

To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

I think it's demons because Christianity said God banished many angels that was taking the side of Lucifer when he chased them away from heaven if we are believing the stories in the bible. Superstitious are real in gambling and sports, some players have their own superstitious that they believe in and it works for them. Christiano Ronaldo said he does not like touching trophy before playing in the competition and it works for him because he has won many trophies while others in spite of if they touch or kissed the trophy they still can win it. Messi in the 2022 world cup touched and kissed the world cup trophy before playing in the competition and he still won it but Ronaldo that did not do that still did not win it therefore it can work for some people while it would not work for others. Gambling is mostly about luck therefore superstition can be used when gambling and you win.

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This is a common human superstition, not necessarily associated with gamblers. My point is that gamblers are no more superstitious than other people.

I believe it's true. There are so many superstitious people in the world, and the fact many of them are gamblers doesn't show that gamblers, or most of them, are superstitious. Rather, it is because many people are gamblers. Some of them drink Coke, others are vegetarians, and others are superstitious. It's like encountering many vegetarian gamblers and coming to the conclusion that all gamblers are like that.

Maybe some people believe about this since they are live on environment that believe on super natural things that's why they always think about that there's something they can do to change the result of the game that's why some of them always came up with idea that some rituals or their beliefs will work to counter the possible result then turn the results in favor with them. I maybe find it sounds crazy but still I respect their believe but what I really think that there's no other thing that can change the result of each game whatever extracurricular things they do since the result will always come up random. But if they play on skilled based maybe they can change something especially if they try to familiarize the game and create a good strategy to get increase a little bit their chance to win.

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Quote from: shivansps on May 29, 2024, 03:36:57 PM

To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

That's one good point of view of this kind of belief.
It's true. Gambling can cause chaos not because of what is said by God or the Bible but it's because of human stupidity. Anything that is abused can be harmful to us. Gambling was supposed to be an added spice for entertainment, a hobby, but there are those who would use it as their daily job or worse, getting addicted to it and never stopping for a day to take a rest.
It's not demonic or controlled by Satan, it's just people abusing things like how they abuse drugs, alcohol, and other substances that are harmful due to over-usage. Drugs are supposed to cure illnesses and yet they keep on taking them because they feel good. The same with other types of plants or chemicals that are abused.
No one is forcing us to gamble, it's our own decision. So should it be blamed on something else?

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Quote from: m2017 on May 29, 2024, 01:49:12 PM

Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

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This is a common human superstition, not necessarily associated with gamblers. My point is that gamblers are no more superstitious than other people.

I believe it's true. There are so many superstitious people in the world, and the fact many of them are gamblers doesn't show that gamblers, or most of them, are superstitious. Rather, it is because many people are gamblers. Some of them drink Coke, others are vegetarians, and others are superstitious. It's like encountering many vegetarian gamblers and coming to the conclusion that all gamblers are like that.

Quote from: m2017 on May 29, 2024, 01:49:12 PM

~ Personally, I am a little surprised and feel slightly embarrassed when, in the age of high technology, I come across statements of human superstitions that touch on various mythologies (such as Christian, as in this case). It would seem that humanity has overcome the dark ages, but as you can see from your story, some characters still remain in those times.

Yeah, me too. But that's how it is: a lot of people have outdated views.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

Some people just have the believe from mythic narratives which is really not the truth but they will keep passing the idea from one generation to another and in every generation, you will definitely find people who are telling you the mythic narratives about gambling that has been instilled in them. It will be difficult for you to convince such people that gambling is not satanic as they thought. If something is satanic, that means it is controlled by the devil or the devil's agent and if casino was controlled by devil's agent that means people will not be gambling at all.

@shivansps, I agree with you on your last statement.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

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Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.

Yeah this happens to me but never that i engage talking because there is one important thing
my father thought me to never entertain strangers specially those who will just approach you in public
without important matters to tackle ?
I will keep silent or will move away to show them im not interested.

As @Hispo said above which is actually not a problem to talk to strangers in public places accidentally as long as we can really think using common sense and rational thinking, anyway I think there are positive points in the situation which can improve our social relations with other people we never knew before which maybe we can get a good experience, knowledge or insight by talking to them as long as we can really think rationally.

Everyone has their own life choices and habits and as you said that maybe since childhood you have been forbidden by your father to talk to people you don't know, there is nothing wrong with that and maybe I think your family prioritizes prevention to avoid some unwanted things such as especially so that you are not influenced by anything that others say that can change our beliefs, but if we have prepared various things in ourselves then I think there is nothing wrong with mingling with others, but it must also be accompanied by restrictions.

One of the main reasons on why people do really go into those places on which they could really be having that kind of social interaction with other people. I doesnt have any sense in regarding
about connecting with that kind of situation on which you wont really be tending to have those interactions just because it would really be that affecting your overall luckiness?

Superstitious beliefs and other things which is really that always been that connected out with things on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other aspects as well.
It turns out that this has become that being a traditional stuff on which you would really be trying out to attach and make yourself believe that there are really those things
that could affect someones luck. It isnt really that bad on making yourself having those kind of beliefs and trying it to follow but of course it would really be just that
better that you dont make yourself that applying those things but as long you arent harming or putting up someone into trouble then you are free on what you would really be gonna doing.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

This is a common human superstition, not necessarily associated with gamblers. My point is that gamblers are no more superstitious than other people.

Of course, your travel companion is absolutely right in describing the casino’s business model, but the statements of an adult (pointing his finger at a smartphone) about demons at least look funny, and at most a reason to think about its adequacy. Personally, I am a little surprised and feel slightly embarrassed when, in the age of high technology, I come across statements of human superstitions that touch on various mythologies (such as Christian, as in this case). It would seem that humanity has overcome the dark ages, but as you can see from your story, some characters still remain in those times.

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I think he only lost his mind due to too much gambling. This is also happening on other addicts, mostly the drug ones. A superstitious belief is different from it. That's right @OP, you should not believe such claims but just continue on what you are doing if this makes you happy. What important is us and not the others.

The only way for us to stop gambling is if it's already banned in our country or we have a religion that prohibits it. Just to clear things out, I do not mean that addicted gamblers like him will also continue. I know that is their life and that is their money that they use when playing, but still it was wrong in any angle you look at it. Sometimes I also do follow some simple superstitious for my important works like green dress and prayer before beginning etc. This simply gives me some confident then what would be wrong in following it?

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

What's your opinion about this please?

Take him easy, that is just his mantra.

Gambling spirit is in the core of the human brain and I think should it were lost in the past then evolution would have slowed down significantly. I think this spirit will help humanity to withstand AI at the time when needed. Wink

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You should've told that man that you were the devil or something like that, I can guarantee you that he'll have that moment ingrained in his mind, I don't like people that tries to meddle with what I'm doing just to say something really stupid that doesn't really have anything that would contribute to what I do, I mean come on man, I don't care about your belief and I'm not really asking you to save me. Minding your own business goes a really long way if I'm being honest, makes you live longer. Superstitions are a goofy thing in the modern day, grow up.

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