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I'll go with logic and maths when deciding probable wins or losses but people have a ton of beliefs about what works for them.   Some of it is real for that person in getting them in the right mood or mindset, I dont argue with people what makes them right on the day and happy within their gamble to operate best on the day.   Some of it is the attitude towards gambling, there is no certainty and if you have the good belief that you cannot always win that is probably for the best in controlling your ego and hubris; whatever works for you!
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What's your opinion about this please?
let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic
For sure if he does, he prayed for his bets to win which is kind of odd for someone who's religious. But hey, we do get this a lot nowadays, right?  Cheesy

I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.
This made my day and you made me laugh.

There's something odd to these extremely religious but look at them, you'd see something wrong with them that they don't notice. I am happy to see religious people and doing their faith but they should be limited to do that for themselves and not to meddle with others.
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
That is a sign of hallucination and superstitious believe. Those words he said where not actually true but he is using what happened to him As an example to tanish the image or reputation of gambling. There are no demon anywhere In gambling but it was just a mear imagination due to frequent lost. Greed makes people to easily fall into gambling trap or slowly becoming an addict. The act of chasing loses is the main reason why people lost alot. Another is that naturally gambling is programmed in a way that it is nearly impossible to win due to lack of possibilities, the chance of winning in gambling is %10 inside every %100 and inside the %10, %5 may be at advantage to win on a regular basis that is why it looks like demon controls it but not so.
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What's your opinion about this please?
let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic, I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.
As said, the guy on the bus is very much into gambling and has lost big. At some point, he had turned to be more religious, and the same has made him come out of the gambling practice. From that point on, his life might've changed on the positive side, and the same had driven him towards stating gambling as satanic. We can't be sure that there is no manipulation, but the involvement of demons is just an imagination. There are people who are superstitious, and they find different choices to win. This is different, and he had to find a way to quit gambling.
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Dont let it to get into your head because if you do keep on minding on the words that he had said then it might be a reason that you cant really be able to enjoy up your gambling activity or dealing since you would really be continuing on minding on the things that he had said on which we know that this is something that superstitious but we do know that he has some point about gambling addiction and
possible huge spending of money with gambling which it could really be that leading into that huge regret in the end of the line. This is why it would really be that important that you should be wary on whats the actual reason on why you do gamble?

Gamble for fun and not for more then everything would really be just that fine. Why? moderation and control is something that will really be that mainly needed when dealing up
with gambling because having nothing of this will really lead into disaster.
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What's your opinion about this please?
let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic, I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.
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He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

He is only trying to justify his failure and how he lost money to gambling, only hypocrite will sit and cook this kind of stories. If that's true that gamblers has some external force of nature that stop them from winning then many people who win all the time and tells the world they won something wouldn't have won again the second time, the third time again but they actually won and nothing happened.

If you're good in gambling and you are lucky, you will win and no demon or witches will hindrances the outcome of your bets, I don't even know when demons start operating digitally to change things or maybe they start changing what the outcomes of a game is going to be in the end.
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Well that's not a new thing for me because over here in one of the world most religious society, stuffs like that you actually see and encounter them everyday but one thing I know is that gambling itself was aimed as a business by the casino owners and you wouldn't expect a business owner to be at the lose everytime and the whole system is designed in the way that you keep hoping and thinking you can make fortune out of it and all that is if you take gambling as a serious means of making money because if you take as a place where you actually just drop by and catch some fun then your whole issue of being addicted would be a totally different case.
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it

This man was very lucky to have met someone like you who is calm, if not he would have been served with the best insult of his life that moment because at first, he is intruding into your privacy for knowing that you're gambling on your mobile device, secondly, he is not minding his business, what if its not gambling you're on to, but something that needed more of your privacy, lastly, where was it written in a religious book that gambling is demonic or satanic, i think he is the agent acting in disguise for that purpose by not minding his business.
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it's just his personal opinion about gambling, everyone can have an opinion on something and we can ignore it or take it.  he has a bad opinion about gambling, accuses this and that, but that is just his personal opinion because that is not necessarily the truth.  and discussing the house edge, it is something that is normal in business, because casinos are also businesses, so it is very natural for them to increase their income opportunities.  so it doesn't make sense to worry about it, unless the casino is setting their house edge too high, then it's a problem, or they're intervening in a game.
Some may have positive experiences with gambling and some may have negative experiences. When you gamble, you can have something negative or positive or a combination of both negative and positive. If someone said something negative about gambling, then I would say that you would be wrong to think that gambling is completely negative. Just as we can easily accept the good aspects of gambling, we have to accept the bad aspects because when something good happens, something bad must happen. If someone has a very bad gambling experience then it is very important to know what strategy he has gambled before because if the strategy is wrong in gambling then the result can go against every time.
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You don't have to listen seriously with that man because you have a different views of gambling. He can say that gambling is manipulated by demons but for me, gambling is just an activity to have fun in my spare time and don't have to playing gambling too long to prevents the big lose. Maybe that man already lose much money so he said that gambling is manipulated by demons and don't wants other people gets the same thing like him. Well, that's good because at least, he reminds you to be careful when you playing gambling. You can say to that man that you can controls yourself while you playing gambling and not use much money to prevents the big lose. But you can also takes his advice and not says too many words to him because that can makes you in a debate that will not stops.
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it's just his personal opinion about gambling, everyone can have an opinion on something and we can ignore it or take it.  he has a bad opinion about gambling, accuses this and that, but that is just his personal opinion because that is not necessarily the truth.  and discussing the house edge, it is something that is normal in business, because casinos are also businesses, so it is very natural for them to increase their income opportunities.  so it doesn't make sense to worry about it, unless the casino is setting their house edge too high, then it's a problem, or they're intervening in a game.
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Your explanation makes no logical sense because there is no proof that any creature called satan exists. I believe everything you have said but it will make sense to only religious people. You can only find what you explained in some Holy books of certain religions and not in scientific books. Anybody who believes that casinos use demons to make people keep gambling belongs to a particular religion. And these religious books contain what to do to overcome these demons. So I will advise such an individual to study these Holy Books and discover how to be free from these demonic influences. In conclusion, your words make only religious sense.

Truthfully, gambling addicts should take responsibility to break free from addiction instead of blaming demons. It is far better to go and seek assistance or help on how to be free from addiction than to do nothing but blame demons for their misfortune. 

What do you think its religion? When it comes to believe things do not have to make any logical sense for one to have a strong personal believe. You as well do not have any logical reasons that Satan do not exist, so if you choose to tell him he is kind of wrong then you should give him more reasons to believe what you have said. Perhaps he might be convinced by your own believe which would change his mindset.

I know how it so crazy that people think there is some spiritual activities conducted in the local casinos and even online that makes gamblers lose so much. Gambling is not forced it is out of ones will that they choose to gamble, they should take responsibility if they lose and dont call the name of any gods as an excuse for their failure. If they cant be successful at it then they should quit completely.
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Judging by his nonsense, he exchanged one addiction (gambling) for another (religion). This is a fairly common case, in the sense that if a person does not have rational thinking, then he finds the appropriate filling for his head.
Maybe there is nothing wrong with that, as long as one day he doesn’t try to exorcise a demon from someone or go burn down a casino as a refuge for the devil (because that’s what the voices in his head whispered)  Grin

That's how other people think or look at gambling, but it doesn't seem right to say that it's the devilish game of a person who loves gambling. We have a casino here, but they also have foundations and charities to help those in need.

Gambling is also a matter of choice. The bad thing is that we are already gambling, and then we will encourage minors to gamble. At this point that I mentioned, this is wrong, of course. So if it's just for me to gamble, don't encourage others.
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i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Probably this is really the case. He's giving advice based on his experience as a former gambler. Thus, obviously as a gambler with such past, it's just normal to discourage others to not gamble. Because it can really lead to addiction if a person has no control (he's quite right about that).

However, I don't agree that gambling is satanic and there's a demons behind casino. Keep in mind, casino is a business, and it's in the gambler's discretion on how they want gambling to affect them. There are gamblers who can play in moderation and doing fine. Because it depends on the gambler itself and not the casino. You became addicted? Well, it's because you have no discipline.

with the aim of advising him, perhaps the aim is to prevent gambling addiction from occurring, which can indeed be detrimental to the main party who can lose a lot of money just because he follows what he thinks, because we all know that if someone gambles he will lose. control, whether because of the results of gambling or indeed from the gambling they actually do, can make them addicted to gambling, of course, when they become addicted to gambling, there are many bad effects that can occur. If we actually have relatives or even friends, there's no harm in advising and reminding them not to gamble excessively.

Most religious people often implant fears in order for other people to heed them.  The use of demons, devils, salvation, hell, purgatory and so on that torment the soul of a person if he doesn't follow his advise often used to make a serious consequence but if we dig into them deeply, most of these things are man-made or created from imagination since often times many teaches and preaches of these people is not even written on the Holy scripture but rather self-interpretation.

It was plainly discuss and explained that excessive gambling is dangerous due to gambling addiction but gambling itself if in moderation can help a person relax and even avoid stress and depression due to the entertainment and social affect it gives.

All in all it is up to the person's decision whether he will let the "demon"(is there is any) in him takeover his sanity and get himself hooked or addicted to gambling.

Regarding gambling involving the devil, I also don't agree that there is a devil behind gambling. What you say is correct, remembering that gambling is a business, of course the business owner will definitely do whatever it takes to attract lots of people to join the business, but you also need to remember that the business owner, I don't think there is any element of coercion, with those who are trapped by addiction. That is the fault of each individual, if they understand that gambling is a business then they should not expect more from gambling.

There might be some attempt of persuasion from advertisement. promotion and bonuses but yeah, i agree with you, addiction is a matter of choice for individual since it is up to an individual if he will let himself spend more than he can afford to lose and it is up to an individual if he will deposit, and play.  In short, no matter how strong the outside factor influence is, at the end it is our own decision that we follow when it comes to gambling engagement.
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He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Their is nothing spiritual connected to gambling,  people playing gambling is because demon manipulating their mind to play gambling. The reason why people play gambling uncontrollable is because of the money involved in gambling which they really want to make money from it. Just like the Ponzi schemes,  when people have the mindset of making money quick from it they get so engaged in it and they don't mind investing all the money they have. Gambling is not spiritual,  just that people fail to understand it which they end up getting so addicted to it.

Gambling is just a game that is real and unpredicted and when you engage yourself with it so much you get so addicted that you won't be able to stay without playing it , which might get some people thinking it is spiritual.
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GAMBLING IS COMPLETELY FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM Perhaps the person who called gambling to you as a devil's game may be a Muslim or another reason may be that the person has lost all his money and wealth by gambling in the past. There can be two reasons and these are the two reasons I have highlighted. First of all if a person is a Muslim and has no previous gambling experience but he can't at least tell that you are gambling by looking at your phone screen then we don't assume that the person who advised you must have been involved in gambling before. If you have control over gambling then you will never lose all your money by gambling but when you find that you have no control over your gambling then you should gradually give up that gambling to save your money.
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Well, in my opinion, I think the man is right although gambling is game of luck and chances and I kept wondering how does it work because you will gamble with same strategies today and win and try with it the next day and won't win again, so many questions run through my head but nevertheless gambling should be done responsibly and within limits, also education and awareness about gambling addiction can help prevent harm as it can cause one to lose relationships and also have financial issues and the man ideas can also help people in preventing gamble addiction.
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i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Probably this is really the case. He's giving advice based on his experience as a former gambler. Thus, obviously as a gambler with such past, it's just normal to discourage others to not gamble. Because it can really lead to addiction if a person has no control (he's quite right about that).

However, I don't agree that gambling is satanic and there's a demons behind casino. Keep in mind, casino is a business, and it's in the gambler's discretion on how they want gambling to affect them. There are gamblers who can play in moderation and doing fine. Because it depends on the gambler itself and not the casino. You became addicted? Well, it's because you have no discipline.

with the aim of advising him, perhaps the aim is to prevent gambling addiction from occurring, which can indeed be detrimental to the main party who can lose a lot of money just because he follows what he thinks, because we all know that if someone gambles he will lose. control, whether because of the results of gambling or indeed from the gambling they actually do, can make them addicted to gambling, of course, when they become addicted to gambling, there are many bad effects that can occur. If we actually have relatives or even friends, there's no harm in advising and reminding them not to gamble excessively.

Regarding gambling involving the devil, I also don't agree that there is a devil behind gambling. What you say is correct, remembering that gambling is a business, of course the business owner will definitely do whatever it takes to attract lots of people to join the business, but you also need to remember that the business owner, I don't think there is any element of coercion, with those who are trapped by addiction. That is the fault of each individual, if they understand that gambling is a business then they should not expect more from gambling.
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[...]i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
It's clear that he's discouraging people so let's disregard the superstitious or religious part. The man probably met a pastor or someone that made him believe that but his intentions are good.

I'm on the more practical side that you usually lose a lot of times when you gamble that's why it just makes sense to limit or stop it completely. That's a statement of fact and no belief system necessary there.
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