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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

You know what maybe this guy is on to something haha. I mean gambling is a big business, but to say that Demons are running it is definitely a pretty crazy idea to just throw around like that. I am leaning more towards your suspicion that the guy has lost one too many bets and has now made gambling synonymous with the devil. The bible doesn't strictly say that gambling is a sin or anything like that, however, the bible does warn against the love of money and dishonest gain. If I were you I would have pressed this guy for so much more information I just find this statement fascinating, I wonder what evidence if any he had to support these bizarre claims.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Based on what you have been told, do you want us to contradict what the man had told you? No! I would not contradict the man's believe and I hope you have your own believe too. We need to understand what we go for and what we don't go for. Choose your own path and do not allow anyone to trey to convince you or make you believe what you do not believe. We all from different doctrine and if you think that what the man told you was actually correct, I don't think their is any need for you to come and tell us but rather tio follow the path.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

What's your opinion about this please?

I don't know if you are religious, but many of these beliefs are the result of religion.
However, if you ask me: Is gambling a sin? Is this the devil's thing?
Well... the Bible doesn't talk about betting and gambling as we know it today, but it says that we should be prudent with our money and not be controlled by addiction, and that already says a lot about the behavior of most gamblers. that I know here.
She also says that money earned dishonestly is not pleasing to God.

So, the conclusion I have is that gambling is not really a problem, most of them can be played just with the intention of having fun, the problem is that when we play it with the intention of getting money from it: “The The love of money is the root of all evil and whoever runs after easy money ends up in many difficulties", 1 Timothy 6:9-10

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Quote from: lienfaye on May 13, 2024, 12:55:08 PM

Probably this is really the case. He's giving advice based on his experience as a former gambler. Thus, obviously as a gambler with such past, it's just normal to discourage others to not gamble. Because it can really lead to addiction if a person has no control (he's quite right about that).

The older generations see gambling then as an activity of a irresponsible person, an activity of a jobless person who lacks direction with their future but what they don't understand is that the ways in which gambling were played back then is different with the way gambling is played today. The evolution of internet has made everything smart and fast that the things that wast your time gambling are now of the past but because of the "parent" signature, not all of them will understand this.

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However, I don't agree that gambling is satanic and there's a demons behind casino. Keep in mind, casino is a business, and it's in the gambler's discretion on how they want gambling to affect them. There are gamblers who can play in moderation and doing fine. Because it depends on the gambler itself and not the casino. You became addicted? Well, it's because you have no discipline.

How can gambling be satanic when I have seen a prominent man of God gambling by my side. I have seen a man that was gambling by my side. It was in Saturday and that been Saturday which leagues do play and because he forgot to stake it before leaving the house, he did it while on journey sitting right next to me and heaven didn't fall, some of this statement are nothing but ignorance and lack of exposure.

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Quote from: redsun114 on May 15, 2024, 02:04:53 PM

As long as the gambling casinos we are playing with is legit, I'm very sure that there are no manipulations that are taking place. I also believe that there are no such things as demons, I mean the literal one. You know those who are colour red with a scary face, with wings and horns in their head but those gambling casino manipulators who do this to take more advantage of their players, can be considered to as one of it.

I think that there is nothing wrong for being superstitious or whatever means you think that will help you to win or quit playing gambling but what is important is that we are not hurting our selves or the people around us.

What I've come to understand is that there are some religions that doesn't support some certain things and individuals who's religions fall under that category would always kick against things that's not supported by their religions, if you read the OP's post properly you'll understand that the OP is a religious person, maybe a Christian and that's why he mentioned that.

But I'm not buying to his idea or thoughts cause I'm not very superstitious or allow my belief to mislead me concerning certain things, the said person must have lost a fortune in gambling or was an addicted gambler before he repented therefore he feels gambling was the reason for his previous misfortune not knowing it was his reckless act towards it.

There are ones who would really be obeying on what their churches or religion that telling them against on certain things. Some will follow but there are ones who would really be definitely be doing even if its against
then there would really be those individuals who would really be that continuing despite of those prohibitions but well we do have our own choices when it comes to the things that we are dealing of with.
There are individuals who do really strictly obey and this is why on the moment that they are seeing someone whose been doing into those things that its prohibited to them then they would be telling that person
that they should be stopping it because its not good.

Different religions does have something which are really that different on which there are who do have that normal approach towards gambling and there are ones
who do totally ban or prohibits gambling. This is why words could be heard out will really be basing up on such condition.

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Quote from: redsun114 on May 15, 2024, 02:04:53 PM

As long as the gambling casinos we are playing with is legit, I'm very sure that there are no manipulations that are taking place. I also believe that there are no such things as demons, I mean the literal one. You know those who are colour red with a scary face, with wings and horns in their head but those gambling casino manipulators who do this to take more advantage of their players, can be considered to as one of it.

I think that there is nothing wrong for being superstitious or whatever means you think that will help you to win or quit playing gambling but what is important is that we are not hurting our selves or the people around us.

What I've come to understand is that there are some religions that doesn't support some certain things and individuals who's religions fall under that category would always kick against things that's not supported by their religions, if you read the OP's post properly you'll understand that the OP is a religious person, maybe a Christian and that's why he mentioned that.

But I'm not buying to his idea or thoughts cause I'm not very superstitious or allow my belief to mislead me concerning certain things, the said person must have lost a fortune in gambling or was an addicted gambler before he repented therefore he feels gambling was the reason for his previous misfortune not knowing it was his reckless act towards it.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Dont mind other peoples words and just simply play on what you are really that tending to deal with. As long you are playing for fun and not that impulsively playing gambling and making out some more deposit like a mad man then you are doing good but if not and you've been wary that you are spending that huge then better to have a break. Making up some self realizations are really that something a moment which is really hard to have as an individual. On the time that you would really be dealing up with gambling then you should really be just that careful on what you are dealing with specially on the imposed possible addiction
that it could really be having on where you should be watching out those probabilities. You cant really be able to blame someone to make up those words even though it is already that big too much when that kind of
advise but at least there's someone who had been showing up some concern in regarding gambling possible addiction. Dont let those words will be bothering you, just let it slip and play accordingly for the sake of fun
then it wont really be something an issue for you.

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Quote from: n0ne on May 14, 2024, 05:28:18 PM

Quote from: acroman08 on May 14, 2024, 04:04:26 PM

let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic, I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.

As said, the guy on the bus is very much into gambling and has lost big. At some point, he had turned to be more religious, and the same has made him come out of the gambling practice. From that point on, his life might've changed on the positive side, and the same had driven him towards stating gambling as satanic. We can't be sure that there is no manipulation, but the involvement of demons is just an imagination. There are people who are superstitious, and they find different choices to win. This is different, and he had to find a way to quit gambling.

As long as the gambling casinos we are playing with is legit, I'm very sure that there are no manipulations that are taking place. I also believe that there are no such things as demons, I mean the literal one. You know those who are colour red with a scary face, with wings and horns in their head but those gambling casino manipulators who do this to take more advantage of their players, can be considered to as one of it.

I think that there is nothing wrong for being superstitious or whatever means you think that will help you to win or quit playing gambling but what is important is that we are not hurting our selves or the people around us.

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Casinos don't need the support of the demons to stay profitable. When it comes to sports betting, there is no manipulation they can do because you are the one deciding the side that will win and you can see the odds even before you make the bet, and you only do it if you are okay with the odds. There is no doubt that if some players win, others lose, and those who lose are the ones keeping the casino profitable even after they pay out the winners.

Gambling is a business for its creators, and it is technically not a way for players to earn money but a way to earn revenue for its creators, so there is no need for satanic powers to support the house for it to earn revenue from its gamblers because they already do it without doing anything.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

I guess these kind of people really have to blame someone with their winning (God), or losing (Demon). Although there could be games in lower league that can be manipulated at some point, but I don't think there is divine intervention in any games though.

Going back to gambling addiction, still depends on every individual, we really have to control and manage our emotions to not fall for being addicted. But there are chance as well to recover, as there are also stories of people who had kick it from from their system.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge.

But it's not something magical, the house indeed has the higher edge. It's openly declared on each gambling site. But yeah, I understand why the guy has never visited a gambling site - the Demons!

Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

The house edge works through mathematics. Does the old man think that mathematics is ruled by demons too? It think it's very likely that he does. I personally don't think that "he's lost too much in gambling" because to lose too much you must have it first, and I think what this old man lost is his mind, a long time ago and not because of gambling.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino <...>

Anyone who believes in superstitions and demons in gambling is going to do badly, very badly. Better not to gamble and to pray.

Anyone who believes in this SHOULD not gamble in the first place and anyone who is religious should not gamble as well. Because if they do, they don't have integrity and most likely going to break their own rules in terms of allocating funds and time with gambling.
But for people who don't believe any of these are free to do everything they can. What is important is we respect what others believes. Even with superstitious gestures in gambling, I respect that all though it looks funny.

Most of these "retired gamblers" who come back to criticize gambling and spread falsehood about it are those who were reckless with gambling and got their own fair share of the consequences of being reckless. I am yet to see a gambler who puts the blames on himself for all the misfortunes he faced as a gambler, they would rather accuse the casinos, betting platforms and the gambling industry as a whole. We have lots of good gamblers out their, but the bad gamblers keep making people see gambling as a devilish thing. There is no such thing as superstition in gambling, there is no demon controlling anyone. If at all there is anything pushing gamblers to be irresponsible and act out of proportion, then that one thing is Greed. Let them conquer greed first and see if there will still be any demon manipulating gamblers.

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Demons, Satan. What next, zombies and vampires? I though that gambling was not allowed for underaged. All this reminds me saying that gambler will blame anyone except accepting fact that he lost due to lack of luck, random factors and probability. It is absurdly to believe that some otherworldly forces help casinos to out win gamblers.

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Quote from: harapan on May 14, 2024, 11:55:25 PM

Most people that have loss to gambling back then can be unbelievable having such archaic mindset,have heard that a lot times usually when I was much younger we were told that there's a spirit that controls all of this and thus tend to favour the casinos with more earnings leaving the gambler addicted and a looser.
And sometimes when I was much younger I use to believe such and stay far away from it but as I grew up to know some certainty of life I had to believe yes they are really superstitious and some people can be so spiritual and making sure other members follow their words.

That's happens to some gamblers that have much losses because they wants to gets their lose money and they will use ancient things that can helps them to wins. But that will not works as gambling is not related to superstitious so they will still lose their money and even they can becomes addicted to gambling. It's different on gambling as gambling is parts of entertainment. If people still use something related to superstitious, they must knows that will not helps them to wins. They must have luck to wins on gambling and if they don't have, they will difficult to wins but only lose their money. But we don't have to talks about anything to those who believe superstitious things, especially when they playing gambling because that's their belief. We can just lets them still do that while we only playing gambling as usual.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on May 15, 2024, 12:31:36 AM

Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino <...>

Anyone who believes in superstitions and demons in gambling is going to do badly, very badly. Better not to gamble and to pray.

Anyone who believes in this SHOULD not gamble in the first place and anyone who is religious should not gamble as well. Because if they do, they don't have integrity and most likely going to break their own rules in terms of allocating funds and time with gambling.
But for people who don't believe any of these are free to do everything they can. What is important is we respect what others believes. Even with superstitious gestures in gambling, I respect that all though it looks funny.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino <...>

I don't know where you're from but personally I don't know anyone who believes in demons, and if in a conversation someone were to say that to me I would suddenly remember that I have to leave at that moment because I have a very important thing to do that can't be delayed. Anyone who believes in superstitions and demons in gambling is going to do badly, very badly. Better not to gamble and to pray.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on May 12, 2024, 06:43:50 PM

Although it may be true that there are some people who have a paradigm or view that there is a connection between gambling and the devil or other beliefs that are not visible to the naked eye. However, in my opinion, this is just an assumption, not a fact, because until now there is no strong enough evidence to support this opinion.

and it is important to consider the real fact that gambling is basically an activity that is based on one's own decisions, factors of luck, understanding, knowledge and skills. The reason why in gambling the house always wins is because of the mathematical rules that underlie it, not because of the intervention of Satan.

In overcoming this problem, I think the person you met on the bus had experienced quite a bitter experience in gambling, so he talked to others about the gambling he had experienced and thought that the bitter experience he had experienced was due to the intervention of Satan. But this all comes back to each individual, because everyone has the freedom to have their own views about gambling.

Most people that have loss to gambling back then can be unbelievable having such archaic mindset,have heard that a lot times usually when I was much younger we were told that there's a spirit that controls all of this and thus tend to favour the casinos with more earnings leaving the gambler addicted and a looser.
And sometimes when I was much younger I use to believe such and stay far away from it but as I grew up to know some certainty of life I had to believe yes they are really superstitious and some people can be so spiritual and making sure other members follow their words.

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Everything will start with defeat, he said all that because he has definitely experienced defeats that really made him feel big loss, and basically people who gamble and experience big losses will always blame anything for their failure.
Saying gambling is the devil is not correct because this is indeed business and in gambling if we use logic and an objective mindset then we will understand that the gambling algorithm is random and gives greater percentage of losses to gamblers.
It has nothing to do with the devil or anything that seems religious in gambling, but if you say about manipulation then it is true and indeed some gambling places use lot of these dirty tricks to make more gamblers lose.

But I think this kind of opinion is quite normal because I have found several times that some people have similar beliefs where they believe that casino owners or betting providers have been helped by the devil.
But I personally wouldn't think so because I understand that gambling is place that was created to provide benefits to its owners and we as gamblers are only the ones who will provide these benefits.

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Quote from: serjent05 on May 14, 2024, 02:10:44 AM

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Indeed, gambling that is done excessively is dangerous, because it is guaranteed that you will become addicted and of course when you become addicted, many problems will occur, such as losing large amounts of money, relationships between each other that can become strained or even worse. . Gambling itself is man-made whose aim is to generate profits. with those who make this, of course the main thing is to make a profit from the many people who gamble. Also, the host will not care about what happens to those who are addicted to gambling, whether they become destitute because they go bankrupt or whatever, because it is also because of their own wrong actions in gambling too much. It's true what you said, if gambling itself is done with common sense, in other words, you can understand it well and don't thirst for victory, then it won't be a problem.

It is clear that the devil is within oneself. with those who become addicted to gambling, it may be because they follow their instincts incorrectly, where it is handlebars that encourage them to continue gambling because of the lure of winning. It's true, it doesn't matter how strong the influence of external factors is, because complete control lies with those of us who do the gambling.

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Quote from: STT on May 14, 2024, 06:59:31 PM

I'll go with logic and maths when deciding probable wins or losses but people have a ton of beliefs about what works for them. Some of it is real for that person in getting them in the right mood or mindset, I dont argue with people what makes them right on the day and happy within their gamble to operate best on the day. Some of it is the attitude towards gambling, there is no certainty and if you have the good belief that you cannot always win that is probably for the best in controlling your ego and hubris; whatever works for you!

well you have a point on that, mate. We have our different beliefs when it comes to gambling winning so we should just focus on our own strategies and logic when it comes to winning the game in gambling, as long as you can manage yourself then go, do what you want to do and let others do what they want too. know that whatever works on us will probably not works to other people.

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