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legendary
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Racist issues are still a hot issue in the US...
I can't figure out how to do the selection of police in the US, I saw a lot of videos on Twitter like the blind shooting that made me wonder, why the police there were so brutal towards blacks. Undecided

because black people publicly whine and express their hate on america thatswhy they are considered suspects
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Racist issues are still a hot issue in the US...
I can't figure out how to do the selection of police in the US, I saw a lot of videos on Twitter like the blind shooting that made me wonder, why the police there were so brutal towards blacks. Undecided
legendary
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Oh, no! Cops are starting to look better than the medical!


Cancer industry kills far more black people than police do...



According to the American Cancer Society, African Americans "have the highest death rate and shortest survival of any racial or ethnic group in the U.S. for most cancers. In 2019 alone, 73,030 black people reportedly died from cancer, while another 202,260 black people were newly diagnosed with cancer.

These are pretty big numbers for a population group that represents just under 14 percent of the total American population. And it is even more alarming when considering the fact that health-destroying cancer "treatments" like chemotherapy and radiation are often the true causes of death in cancer patients.

While the American Cancer Society does not reveal what it believes to be the underlying cause behind why more black people are dying, and at faster rates, from cancer compared to other groups, we suspect that it might have to do with what types of treatments they are receiving.

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Rioting will only make black areas even bigger “food deserts,” while abortion takes black lives from another angle.


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legendary
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After George Floyd's death this topic is hot again.
I think that US Cops are not the best people in the earth but just consider what they are seeing and in what conditions they are working. Criminals in the US are so many and they have to deal every day with them by risking their lives, sometimes this comes out as brutal behavior.

Have to become criminals just to move through the court system.

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After George Floyd's death this topic is hot again.
I think that US Cops are not the best people in the earth but just consider what they are seeing and in what conditions they are working. Criminals in the US are so many and they have to deal every day with them by risking their lives, sometimes this comes out as brutal behavior.
legendary
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I guess I was right... if only in the wrong direction. ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops.

Watch the video at https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article243193606.html/video-embed.


Tense protest turns emotional as 60 North Carolina police kneel before demonstrators



Police in Fayetteville, North Carolina, made a surprising move Monday during a tense stand off with protesters seeking justice in the case of George Floyd, who died after being restrained by police in Minneapolis.

All 60-plus officers knelt before the marchers on Murchison Road.

Video of the moment had been viewed more than 14,000 times on Twitter and got 15,000 reactions on Facebook as of Tuesday morning.

"As a show of understanding the pain that is in our community and our nation regarding equality, the #FayPD took a knee to show that we also stand for justice for everyone," the department wrote. "We are committed to listening and treating everyone with dignity and respect."

Witnesses say some officers and protesters responded to the move with tears.


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legendary
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November 07, 2019, 12:04:59 PM
Are you afraid of ISIS in America? Be afraid of U.S. cops!


Woman Facebook live-streams her dying boyfriend seconds after he is shot four times...


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no one knows weather that stuff is true, black supremacists and their white liberal allies, white satanists, or simply white payed actors could have simply staged that "assasination" in order to blackdraw all policemen and leave white americans without a protection against the racism of nonwhite people especially blacks, native americans or many middle easterners

All you are saying is that nobody knows if anything is true, until he examines the evidence directly himself, or until there is a court case that proves it is true. And these things really STILL arent proof for something being true.

We might as shut down the forum and go home... if home is really true. Do we have any proof that home is true?

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November 07, 2019, 04:48:40 AM
Are you afraid of ISIS in America? Be afraid of U.S. cops!


Woman Facebook live-streams her dying boyfriend seconds after he is shot four times...





WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

Diamond Reynolds live-streamed the aftermath of her boyfriend's shooting

Philando Castile was shot at 9pm during a traffic stop in Minnesota

Reynolds claims that he was reaching for a license and ID

And she says he told the cop he had a license to carry a weapon

But she claims the 'Chinese police officer' shot him four times in the arm

The cop - audibly panicked - swears and tells her not to move several times

Police have confirmed that he died in hospital

Some 200 protesters formed outside Minnesota Governor's house

The cop is from the St. Anthony Police Department in Falcon Heights

Castile's mother learned of it when her daughter screamed while online

She claims she wasn't allowed to see her son in hospital


Minneapolis woman livestreams her dying boyfriend seconds after he is shot by a cop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQs6djkqmy8



Read more at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3678293/Please-don-t-tell-s-gone-Horrifying-moment-woman-believes-black-boyfriend-died-Minneapolis-cop-shot-four-times-reached-license.html.


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no one knows weather that stuff is true, black supremacists and their white liberal allies, white satanists, or simply white payed actors could have simply staged that "assasination" in order to blackdraw all policemen and leave white americans without a protection against the racism of nonwhite people especially blacks, native americans or many middle easterners
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November 06, 2019, 10:48:15 PM
Over 35 million hits in Google on "police brutality" search.     Cool

And you're certain none of those hits are duplicates, factual, debunked, or false claims?

If, in 1976, you "googled" police brutality, and received no hits because the internet didn't exist, does that mean there was no police brutality back then?

Probably the number of hits to the same site depends on several things. One of them might be the number of times the search phrase is used in a particular website.

Police brutality has always existed. Look at what they did to Bonnie and Clyde! Cops were probably somewhat more honorable in the past, but considering what Eliot Ness and the Untouchables were up against, nobody can be sure.

Lately a lot of honor has gone away from everybody. Cops, who are out in the forefront, will probably express their lack of honor more readily than other people, simply because they carry guns, and are extremely bold anyway.

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Yes, and that's why you can't cite google hits as any reliable measurement for this issue.  

What would be more accurate would be actual statistical data, such as that tracked by the FBI.

The recent rise in the awareness of police misconduct is actually the internet. Although statistics will show you unequivocally that police misconduct has greatly reduced over time and is consistently lowering every decade, the public perception is that its running amok and unchecked. The reason for the incorrect perception is due to every single bad incident going "viral" in minutes.  Prior to the internet, the abuses may have been 10x more prevalent, but the exposure to the public was nowhere near what it is today.  An incident in CA might make the local paper, but no one in NY would ever know about it.

I will not defend a bad cop making a bad decision.  There's plenty of idiots working in this field just like any other. The idiot female cop in TX that shot her neighbor, she's an idiot. But it actually wasn't police related. She was off duty, and thought her home was being burglarized. Still an idiot.  But I will defend the false accusations and outright lies of abuse. Who was that dumbass they tried to martyrize? Robbed a store, fought with cop, and got shot. You start fighting a cop, you'll get shot. If you resist arrest and escalate the situation yourself, use of force rules allow the cops to escalate as well.   99.9% of our interactions with the public can be handled with words alone. If you listen, and act like a human, we can all get thru this without getting hurt. If you fight, run, act a fool, then you changed the entire encounter.
legendary
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November 06, 2019, 09:59:00 PM
Over 35 million hits in Google on "police brutality" search.     Cool

And you're certain none of those hits are duplicates, factual, debunked, or false claims?

If, in 1976, you "googled" police brutality, and received no hits because the internet didn't exist, does that mean there was no police brutality back then?

Probably the number of hits to the same site depends on several things. One of them might be the number of times the search phrase is used in a particular website.

Police brutality has always existed. Look at what they did to Bonnie and Clyde! Cops were probably somewhat more honorable in the past, but considering what Eliot Ness and the Untouchables were up against, nobody can be sure.

Lately a lot of honor has gone away from everybody. Cops, who are out in the forefront, will probably express their lack of honor more readily than other people, simply because they carry guns, and are extremely bold anyway.

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November 06, 2019, 09:47:20 PM
Over 35 million hits in Google on "police brutality" search.     Cool

And you're certain none of those hits are duplicates, factual, debunked, or false claims?

If, in 1976, you "googled" police brutality, and received no hits because the internet didn't exist, does that mean there was no police brutality back then?
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November 06, 2019, 09:44:19 PM
Nice, never saw this thread. I'm late to the party.  This should be fun.

The latest story looks interesting.... woman escalates simple situation, becomes violent, officers have to respond with force in accordance with law. Use of force continuum to be evaluated to determine if appropriate legal force was used or exceeded.



Once every few months, one of the 900,000 officers in the US makes a questionable judgement call, based on reacting to a suspect's actions. Statistically raising huge abuse concerns for this 0.0001% rate of questionable activity.

Well, that's the very reason why cops train with pop up targets, in which some are innocents and some are the bad guys. But not all cops get such training. A lot of police departments only require firearm training to be one box of 50 shells at a range PER YEAR.



And upwards of 95% of cops will never fire a shot at a human over their 25yr career.

But to go on, most of your information is incorrect.  Very few police train with pop-up targets. That's a rarity, and usually only seen in a few federal LE depts, and Special Forces military.  

The basic requirement is not one box of 50 "shells", it's a two part course consisting of 60 rounds fired under timed exercises between 3-25 yds, which incorporates reload and malfunction drills.   And that's just for pistol.  Required annually, most departments run it every 6 months.
   Then add in qualification courses for rifle and shotgun.  Patrol Rifle course is 40 rds, prone and kneeling at 75 & 50 yds, standing and kneeling at 50 & 25 yds, then standing 25yds and closer, with sone movement drills.
Shotgun is a total of 15 shells, 50yds and in, with 5 slug, 10 buck.

  Now, the above is just the basic minimum require to certify.  Most depts run additional drills as time/budget allow. In our case, we work 10hr shifts, and a range day is usually about 6-8 guys with two instructors.  We get thru the basic qualification courses within two hours, and spend the rest of the day running drills. We've done everything from cover to cover leapfrog drills, active school shooter drills, shooting from/at vehicle, moving targets, etc....


And for CV reference... I'm a USN Vet '90-'94, and current police officer in PA since 2002.  Current K/D ratio is 0/0
legendary
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November 06, 2019, 07:58:31 PM
Over 35 million hits in Google on "police brutality" search.     Cool
legendary
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November 06, 2019, 07:55:47 PM
Nice, never saw this thread. I'm late to the party.  This should be fun.

The latest story looks interesting.... woman escalates simple situation, becomes violent, officers have to respond with force in accordance with law. Use of force continuum to be evaluated to determine if appropriate legal force was used or exceeded.



Once every few months, one of the 900,000 officers in the US makes a questionable judgement call, based on reacting to a suspect's actions. Statistically raising huge abuse concerns for this 0.0001% rate of questionable activity.

Well, that's the very reason why cops train with pop up targets, in which some are innocents and some are the bad guys. But not all cops get such training. A lot of police departments only require firearm training to be one box of 50 shells at a range PER YEAR.

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November 06, 2019, 07:44:29 PM
Nice, never saw this thread. I'm late to the party.  This should be fun.

The latest story looks interesting.... woman escalates simple situation, becomes violent, officers have to respond with force in accordance with law. Use of force continuum to be evaluated to determine if appropriate legal force was used or exceeded.



Once every few months, one of the 900,000 officers in the US makes a questionable judgement call, based on reacting to a suspect's actions. Statistically raising huge abuse concerns for this 0.0001% rate of questionable activity.
legendary
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November 06, 2019, 06:44:37 PM
The absolute only reason cops don't simply go around killing people off more than they do (like ISIS does) is, we still have some laws that protect us from these ISIS-like monsters that many people still think are peace-keepers and public servants.


Disturbing video shows sheriff's deputies tasering a woman while she was strapped in a chair with a spit hood on - after she was arrested for allowing her service dog off its leash



Lauren Gotthelf, 34, was arrested on November 25, 2017, in Boulder, Colorado

Police gave her ticket for smoking at a mall and letting her service dog off-leash

When she refused to sign the ticket, the officer took her to Boulder County Jail  

Body cam video shows Gotthelf arguing with multiple deputies in her jail cell

Sgt Chris Reiss is then heard telling her that she will be placed on suicide watch

The sergeant claimed in the video that Gotthelf had made suicidal statements

When the deputies took Gotthelf out of her cell, they restrained her in a chair

Gotthelf appeared to be resisting the restraints when Sgt Reiss tasered her

On Tuesday, Gotthelf filed a lawsuit against Boulder County sheriff's deputies  

The sheriff's office said they have 'factual disagreements with the allegations'


Video - https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/backup/2019/11/06/7214385189340793672/640x360_MP4_7214385189340793672.mp4.


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legendary
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August 23, 2019, 06:05:29 PM
Watch the video. It's getting safer to be attacked by gang members, than to be protected from them by cops.


Infuriating Video Shows Cops Dole Out Gang-Style Beating on Innocent 17yo Boy



In what looks like a scene out of 1930s Germany, over a dozen Fresno police department cops are seen on body camera footage raiding an apartment complex in July. They demand everyone get out of their homes and sit on the floor, treating everyone like criminals as they allegedly searched the apartment for gang members. Wallace has no ties to gangs and has never received so much as a traffic ticket.

"Attention, apartment 204, this is the Fresno Police Department. If you're inside make your presence known," and officer can be heard yelling over a bullhorn.

At this point, Wallace — who hadn't done anything wrong — was being frisked and told to sit down. As he backs up and tries to comply with the officer's order, he apparently didn't move fast enough for the tyrant cop who then shoved him.

Wallace pulled back his arm when the cop shoved him once more, which made the officer snap.

Officer Christopher Martinez then started punching Wallace in the face, over and over. As the video shows, Wallace is pleading with the officers to stop hitting him as he is not resisting and simply trying to cover his face from the punches.

As the officers pile their weight on top of Wallace, the teen cannot get off of his own arm. He tries telling the cops this, but they do not listen and instead respond with more blows to the face. Once Wallace is handcuffed, he is left crying, bleeding from his mouth, nose, and forehead.

Martinez would go on to justify this abuse and subsequent beat down by writing in his report that he thought Wallace was going to try to run away.

He would then charge Wallace with resisting arrest. Case closed.


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Get your cameras installed... with direct uplinks to Google and Youtube and the Net... so that they can't easily be erased if cops grab the cameras.


After being repeatedly harassed by cops, an innocent man installed cameras which caught them beating him instead



Palo Alto, CA — Gustavo Alvarez — despite not having a criminal record — says he's been repeated harassed by Palo Alto police. So, two years ago, he had surveillance cameras installed on his home in case his fears of police harassment ever materialized on his doorstep. Earlier this year, that is exactly what happened. Only because Alvarez had these cameras installed is he a free man today.

"I wanted to have proof of what they were doing because I want them to stop harassing me," Alvarez said of why he installed the cameras.

Earlier this year, police accused Alvarez — without any evidence — of driving on a suspended license. Instead of issuing a summons or a citation, the Palo Alto police department sent a unit to Alvarez's residence. When the officer confronted Alvarez, Alvarez asked him if he saw him driving a car, to which the officer replied, "No I did not."

After realizing he was simply receiving more harassment without any evidence of a crime, Alvarez went inside his home and closed the door.

"His opinion [was] that there was no legal justification to detain him," said Alvarez's attorney Cody Salfen. "And that ended up being true because the judge at the Superior Court level found that the officers lacked reasonable suspicion to detain him."

Instead of realizing they had no legal reason to detain him, the officer called for backup and a half dozen heavily armed cops showed up at Alvarez's home — over an alleged traffic ticket. One of those cops was Sgt. Wayne Benitez who appeared to take pleasure in doling out pain to the innocent gay man.

As the video shows, police rip Alvarez from his home where he is slammed on the hood of his car. Benitez then begins punching and slamming Alvarez for no reason at all. He punches Alvarez in the ribs, then the face, and then slams his face into the windshield causing Alvarez to start bleeding as a tooth is knocked loose.


Watch the video at the site.


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Low iq people have a really tough time understanding personal or individual experiences vs overall statistics, that's why feminists still insist there is a wage gap or badecker still insists police is worse than ISIS because 0.001% of police does bad things.
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